whitechina
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Oh I hope that comes true and we hammer them.
Player Watch Player Watch: Timo Werner
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This is pretty much exactly the same as what I think about Werner.
If Werner was 22 I think signing him would be a no brainer. As it stands I think if we sign Werner he'll be another player we're struggling to offload in a year or two. I'd rather put the money towards a CF and move Son back to the left.
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Sorry I got that part wrong. But he is currently 31 in England and 30 in Korea, not 32 and 31 respectively, and simply isn't 32 yet. Like people kept doing with Kane, there seems to be a rush for him to get old and decline before his time.
spursgirls
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I don't think he's 30 in Korea either. He would be older not younger by their old method of counting ages. He's 31 everywhere now, and 32 in July.
I like Werner and think we have a free option to see him play out the season and make an informed assessment and decision about whether to exercise the buy option. He’s so far been a mixed bag but with more good games than bad and some telling moments that have won us points. Since Werner has been here he’s performed more consistently and made more contributions than some of our cornerstone players such as Madds, Biss, Kulu, Bent. Do I want the club to buy him? Let’s see how he performs over the balance of his loan.
I reckon we can just try to keep him on loan for another season, he's on big wages that I am sure Liebzig like having off their books.
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I'm on the fence about buying him, however I guarantee there will be takers for around £15m if we don't want him. Loads of Prem teams would be able to comfortably afford that and pay him a decent wage, and he'd realistically improve most Premier League squads.
Very much doubt after making a decent impact with us that we'd be able to re-negotiate another loan.
mattspur1
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Yes, he is a lot younger and has time to improve.
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Our net spend has been around £100-150m a season for the last 5 seasons. We have several positions to fill including 2 full backs/wing backs and a reinvigoration of our front line.
Persisic and Dier will be off which will free up some wages then we'll be looking to sell Sessegnon, Royal, Hojbjerg, Gil, Reguilon, Rodon, Spence, Ndombele and Tanganga.
Sadly we won't be able to sell all of these and most won't command a high fee.
On the plus side, full backs aren't generally that expensive. Adding Werner for £15m could be good business but adding someone like Nusa or Kvaratskhelia would be much more exciting and a real sign of intent.
Persisic and Dier will be off which will free up some wages then we'll be looking to sell Sessegnon, Royal, Hojbjerg, Gil, Reguilon, Rodon, Spence, Ndombele and Tanganga.
Sadly we won't be able to sell all of these and most won't command a high fee.
On the plus side, full backs aren't generally that expensive. Adding Werner for £15m could be good business but adding someone like Nusa or Kvaratskhelia would be much more exciting and a real sign of intent.
mattspur1
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Would it be impossible that we got rid of the lot, potentially commanding a total of around £30m - £40m ish? It would be decent business and it would free some space up for incomings and maybe promote a youngster or two?
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We've completed permanent sale deals at 2-3 a season since 2019/20. So the chances of finding permanent buyers for 9 players is extremely unlikely.
mattspur1
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Maybe Big Ange has influenced Danny Boy enough to up the ante in the signings dept...... or maybe I am just being an unrealistic optimist!
I think for them all to leave we would probably need to sack/pay some of them to go, like we did with Aurier and Doherty. Or maybe arrange deals where we are subsidising their salary elsewhere. I don’t think it will be straightforward trying to sell all these guys though, even at nominal fees.
dontcallme
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Finding a buyer takes much more than simply the chairman's asking price, so yes completely unrealistic.
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You got some statistical evidence to back that up?
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Still in the yes camp, but yeah you have to take his limitations though.
Sp3akerboxxx
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Just for people thinking that 15m is a good fee for a player like Werner, that is pretty much the same price that wolves paid for Pedro Neto.
HildoSpur
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It is a good deal for him though - it was a great deal for Neto too. You rarely get a player of the quality of Neto or Werner for 15m. Werner is an established full German international with 24 goals in 57 caps. Neto hasnt even got 6 caps for Portugal yet. Not saying Werner is better of course but if you are trying to compare the deals, Werner is still a very good one for the price.
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I prefer wingers that can contribute to the football which I've not seen from Timo.
Much like Wenger used to like playing one or two ACM's that could also dribble in the wide areas.
That would also limit the need for the full backs to be so advanced leaving so much room down the sides for the CB's to cover when moves break down.
The energy our full backs have to expend is not sustainable IMO.
We need better movement all over the pitch but especially in the WF area.
If we have to pay with an out and out winter then it needs to be over with elite dribbling skills and/or pace.
That's why I wanted Nusa as he could potentially be that player.
Much like Wenger used to like playing one or two ACM's that could also dribble in the wide areas.
That would also limit the need for the full backs to be so advanced leaving so much room down the sides for the CB's to cover when moves break down.
The energy our full backs have to expend is not sustainable IMO.
We need better movement all over the pitch but especially in the WF area.
If we have to pay with an out and out winter then it needs to be over with elite dribbling skills and/or pace.
That's why I wanted Nusa as he could potentially be that player.
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Pedro Neto didn't stand out when he joined. He improved and took his chances as the team evovled. Wolves paid that price for what he might become and their foresight paid out.
Werners situation is different. He comes as an established player. Both the upside and downside to this deal is more limited.
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Let's face it mate, if Werner was through one on one and your life depended on it...
You're worm food.
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