Adrian Durham - Talk Sport

[samspurs92]

Oh ffs - so were Liverpool.

One bullshit penalty in the 2 minute then the entire game was a complete arm-wrestle - with us not in a position to risk conceding a second and Liverpool not having the guts to go for the win.

The entire game was changed by that bullshit penalty. We have no idea how either side might have played but for that pen. But if WE were shit Liverpool were just as shit. They never looked like scoring until we were having to fully at it late on.

This fucking revisionism of the CL does my head in. It's not like Liverpool played us off the park. It was a dour fucking struggle.

Jesus Christ why do some Spurs fans have to make shit up just so they can shit on their team. We were shit. Liverpool were shit. It was a shit game because of a shit decision.

You’ve literally agreed with what I said. We were awful in the final...

 

[g_harry]

You know all they are going to ask him is about walking away. Which will wind Poch up more. Our news media are a bunch of right wing t****, who do not care as long as they can fill their columns with bs.

No doubt the blood sucking leeches will pack out the press room for this one. But Poch is in control if he sets the tone fom the off. We are in a new 5year plan. Lots to be positive about. The players then must do thier bit on Sunday.

 

[gavspur]

No doubt the blood sucking leeches will pack out the press room for this one. But Poch is in control if he sets the tone fom the off. We are in a new 5year plan. Lots to be positive about. The players then must do thier bit on Sunday.

He needs to set the team up properly, and motivate them. His stubbornness is a lot of the problem here. I think he’s actually tried to change the way we play to add something new, but it hasn’t worked, so now is the time to go back to what works..

I want Poch to stay and to sort it out, I love the guy.. But something needs to give. What will it be?

 

[Rocksuperstar]

He needs to set the team up properly, and motivate them. His stubbornness is a lot of the problem here. I think he’s actually tried to change the way we play to add something new, but it hasn’t worked, so now is the time to go back to what works..

I want Poch to stay and to sort it out, I love the guy.. But something needs to give. What will it be?

It certainly won't be Durham.

 

[DelBoyN17]

Wow I think you’re massively overreacting here, I am allowed to have a different opinion to you. I said I think Poch has had a poor 12 months, which compared to each of his previous seasons with us is true.

Obviously getting to the CL final was amazing but in the league we’ve literally been awful. We’ve been barely scraping wins and haven’t played well since we beat Everton away. We couldn’t even get up for the NLD at home.

There has been a massive lack of intensity in our play and Poch is responsible for that. He’s also responsible for playing the diamond when it’s clear to every sod that it doesn’t work with our players.

Poch has been amazing for our club and I did love him to pieces but that doesn’t mean he is not allowed to be criticised when he deserves to be.

Are you telling me you’re happy with the rubbish he’s been spouting in the media since the build up to the CL final?

Are you also thinking that everything is hunky dory? Because to me it looks like there is a lot wrong and unsettled at the club at the moment which has been papered over by reaching a CL final with a lot of good fortune.

I’m not entitled at all, I just want the team to play with a bit of intensity in the league again and for us to stop playing with a formation that we clearly can’t work out and is stifling our best players.

Absolutely spot on, my thoughts exactly !!!

 

[Phomesy]

You’ve literally agreed with what I said. We were awful in the final...

No, I haven't' agreed with you at all. Because if two very good teams are equally shit in the one game it tends to show that they are bringing each other down. Which is what happened.

You want Spurs to have been "awful" - without context - because it suits your agenda. The corollary of your position is that Liverpool were, therefore, good. but they were not. Because we didn't allow them to be. Because we fought and ran and kept our position and did all the things we needed to to keep in a game that we were fucked over in by an awful decision (personal opinion but remains true even if you think it was handball).

It was a shit game between two very good teams - a game unlike any other in recent memory between those same teams. Because stakes, because of the early pen. It was a shit game because it was dour - but we had to be pretty good to be in the game until the 87th minute (or whenever Origi scored)

You've made this into a shit performance to suit your agenda. Anyone else looking objectively at that game - and the recent League performances of those two clubs - would assume Spurs had done remarkably well to still be in the fucking game.

So, no - I don't agree with you. I think you are shitting on the team unfairly. Using a performance in a CL final that you clearly don't understand or appreciate.

Put it like this - if we are as bad as you say that Liverpool team should have stuck 5 past us right?

They didn't.

They know what a battle they had that night.

Pity some Spurs fans don't.

 

[14/04/91]

It may not be complete bollox....

Bold statement based on one match....

 

[rossdapep]

Look at the words he uses "Im wondering if the rumours I heard are true..."

That sounds to me like either some random person told him or he's basing it off a Spurs No1 ITK Twitter account and he's brought it on air to get a big phone in.

 

[gavspur]

Durham is a joke anyway. A proper WUM, and I’m sure if a sensible Spurs fan phoned in, they probably wouldn’t let them on air, they go for the dumbass ones from every club, not just us. It’s all an act, so I’m not surprised he’s jumped on this. Whether it’s true or not tho, at least to some degree, is what we’ve all been discussing for a few days now. I would doubt that Poch’s time has soured so quickly that he’d be gone after Sunday.

But then, Mourinho and Levy DO get on. Mourinho was also sat in the dugout for the legends match to open the stadium. He speaks glowingly about our squad and facilities. And, he’s out of work. He did a tv analysis of how we could beat Ajax in the semi-final etc etc etc.. Could he have been in Levy’s ear???... Yeah, I think he could. Would Poch know this? I would guess so.

 

[Phomesy]

Well one thing's for sure - the faction within Spurs who feed ValenciaYid's info are agitating for Poch's removal from Spurs. Willing or otherwise.

 

[Lighty64]

Wow I think you’re massively overreacting here, I am allowed to have a different opinion to you. I said I think Poch has had a poor 12 months, which compared to each of his previous seasons with us is true.

Obviously getting to the CL final was amazing but in the league we’ve literally been awful. We’ve been barely scraping wins and haven’t played well since we beat Everton away. We couldn’t even get up for the NLD at home.

There has been a massive lack of intensity in our play and Poch is responsible for that. He’s also responsible for playing the diamond when it’s clear to every sod that it doesn’t work with our players.

Poch has been amazing for our club and I did love him to pieces but that doesn’t mean he is not allowed to be criticised when he deserves to be.

Are you telling me you’re happy with the rubbish he’s been spouting in the media since the build up to the CL final?

Are you also thinking that everything is hunky dory? Because to me it looks like there is a lot wrong and unsettled at the club at the moment which has been papered over by reaching a CL final with a lot of good fortune.

I’m not entitled at all, I just want the team to play with a bit of intensity in the league again and for us to stop playing with a formation that we clearly can’t work out and is stifling our best players.

the high intensity has dropped because the players where knackered. our strongest starting XI have been playing twice a week every week for 2 seasons


this is last seasons
Lloris - France keeper for the WC
Trippier - England
Jan - Belgium
Toby - Belgium
Sanchez - Columbia
Rose - England
Dier - England
Eriksen - Denmark
Dele - England
Son - S Korea
Kane - England

none of those players had the summer off, or had a proper pre season. in fact Son played in 2 more major tournaments, and all suffered injuries through out the season. how do you expect them as a team to play with a high intensity and be full on with it during a season we played 59 fixtures, after a gruelling 55 fixtures the previous season. they didn't have international breaks because they played for their countries.

we still haven't been able to field our strongest XI this season, and theres a possibility that Poch has bee playing the diamond, because he hasn't got the wing backs he needs to play what he prefers.

 

[Trotter]

the high intensity has dropped because the players where knackered. our strongest starting XI have been playing twice a week every week for 2 seasons


this is last seasons
Lloris - France keeper for the WC
Trippier - England
Jan - Belgium
Toby - Belgium
Sanchez - Columbia
Rose - England
Dier - England
Eriksen - Denmark
Dele - England
Son - S Korea
Kane - England

none of those players had the summer off, or had a proper pre season. in fact Son played in 2 more major tournaments, and all suffered injuries through out the season. how do you expect them as a team to play with a high intensity and be full on with it during a season we played 59 fixtures, after a gruelling 55 fixtures the previous season. they didn't have international breaks because they played for their countries.

we still haven't been able to field our strongest XI this season, and theres a possibility that Poch has bee playing the diamond, because he hasn't got the wing backs he needs to play what he prefers.

Sorry you keep posting this, but to be honest it is just excuses, and nothing else.
It hurt not having a fully fit squad for the season, but who does ? (now post the Liverpool stats for the 27th time if you want to show they had less injuries than us)
We have a squad for a reason, the players you have not named there are not geriatrics and with zero skill, they are basically all internationals, they can all play at a high level of intensity, if we so chose those to be the tactics. but we didn't at all last season (except when we were chasing games), and so far in first 3 games we haven't this season, despite the vast majority of personnel basically being available. We could easily have gone back to the 2017-18 and prior high intensity players and formation if we had gone with Hugo, KWP, Jan, Toby, Rose, Ndombele (or Sissoko) , Dier, Son (Lamela while suspended), Eriksen, Moura (whilst Dele out), Kane if we had wanted to this season, but we haven't, and there are no World Cup excuses, or stadium excuses that can be used.
Currently the tactics are basically what AVB used, keep possession at all costs and wait for the openings, rather than what we used to do (and what Liverpool and Man City do), as soon as you win ball back, attack quickly before opposition can get organised.

 

[Lighty64]

Sorry you keep posting this, but to be honest it is just excuses, and nothing else.
It hurt not having a fully fit squad for the season, but who does ? (now post the Liverpool stats for the 27th time if you want)
We have a squad for a reason, the players you have not named there are not geriatrics and with zero skill, they are basically all internationals, they can all play at a high level of intensity, if we so chose those to be the tactics. but we didn't at all last season (except when we were chasing games), and so far in first 3 games we haven't this season, despite the vast majority of personnel basically being available. We could easily have gone back to the 2017-18 high intensity players and formation if we had gone with Hugo, KWP, Jan, Toby, Rose, Ndombele (or Sissoko) , Dier, Son (Lamela while suspended), Eriksen, Moura (whilst Dele out), Kane if we had wanted to this season, but we haven't, and there are no World Cup excuses, or stadium excuses that can be used

try reading the post I quoted. he mentioned about our poor finish, which at the time was also riddled with injuries on top and player playing with knocks because we never had the cover. the majority of those players I named where all doing this week in week out in the Leicester and Chelsea seasons we chased, and guess what they are all older now too.

on this subject I don't give 2 shits whether you agree with me or not. for someone that thinks he is an expert on everything your not coming over as someone that is using a brain cell on this. players suffered injuries, muscular ones due to the work load they have been through, and we had those main doing it for most of the 2 years, no wonder they got injured.

 

[Trotter]

try reading the post I quoted. he mentioned about our poor finish, which at the time was also riddled with injuries on top and player playing with knocks because we never had the cover. the majority of those players I named where all doing this week in week out in the Leicester and Chelsea seasons we chased, and guess what they are all older now too.

on this subject I don't give 2 shits whether you agree with me or not. for someone that thinks he is an expert on everything your not coming over as someone that is using a brain cell on this. players suffered injuries, muscular ones due to the work load they have been through, and we had those main doing it for most of the 2 years, no wonder they got injured.

If you want to get personal, you are coming across as totally uneducated (spelling and grammar is worst I have ever known for a grown man, and have the gall to have how to spell a players name in their signature) in almost every subject you speak about.
Your lack of financial understanding was to be honest a joke during the summer, but that didn't stop you insisting on many a certain thing for ages and ages until I proved you wrong and you had to apologise. and you just come up with excuse after excuse after excuse. Doesn't matter if you post something 27 times and in every post, if people don't agree with it, you won't change their minds.

Tip for the future, it is would have, could have, should have etc. not would of, could of, should of, You use those in sentences a lot, as they all form part of excuses.

 

[Trotter]

sorry lets get 1 thing straight when I was at school as a young kid I suffered with English, most probably down to the stress of going to school as a 6yr old to do an English class writing a story off the blackboard. 1 Monday morning I turned up at school, sat down to write the essay and then find out it was about me, and the fact my mother had died that weekend. I struggled with school for sometime after that. just because I decide not to spell Vertonghen and Alderweireld is down to laziness. On the would of, could of I don't really give a crap, I also have a bad tendency to write "know", when I mean "NO". You don't need an A level in English to visit a football forum on the internet.

You never proved me wrong, because I never did all the findings (donkey work), my only qualification at school was in fact O level accounts, but it wasn't something I followed up after school, I did jobs as a postman, then a barman on a holiday camp, then a factory in Paxton Rd. unfortunately I was an addicted gambler, and after another year on the holiday camp I went into the betting industry, but my addiction cost me my job. I then spent a time working in MK as I have a lot of family up there, mostly with the same surname as you. I then worked the pubs and once I past my driving test become a milkman, but finally my disability caught up with me, and I did the taxi trade and 30 years later I'm still doing it.

the only thing I apologised for was the Aguero goal, because I was wrong. prove me wrong on how we could of spent 300m while in our little stadium without breaking FFP and I'll apologies again, but until then I suggest you go do one.

edit: the apology on the Aguero goal was aimed at others I discussed not just you or I'd of quoted you

Just for the record again. FFP is calculated over 3 years.
We posted profits of £150m plus just last year after posting profits for the prior years also, and on top of that you add back 3 years youth and infrastructure costs (stadium and training ground costs for example), There are other items that can be added back for FFP purposes, but we won't bother going in to them, as irrelevant for this.

This alone means we had at least £300m of profits to play with in the last FFP cycle.

Any transfer fees and associated costs are amortised over the length of their contract (typically we sign players for 5 years)

We could have, if we wanted to, have spent £ 1 billion on transfer fees (£200m per annum amortised) with £100m on their wages if we wanted to, the window just gone, and still would have been within FFP (not recommending that we should mind you) but obviously that gives a cashflow issue.

This was explained to you before, others including Lilbaz also explained it to you also, you just said "OK, I don't understand," and now continue to spout off as if you were right all along again.

Seriously, just don't get involved in things, you don't understand.

And in respect of doing the donkey work, it was because you wanted to know how much we could have spent in any previous windows, and stayed within FFP. I offered to calculate for you, if you brought to me the relevant profits, youth, infrastructure costs etc,, which you didn't.

And by the way, would never have brought your education stuff up, if you hadn't been personal (will say it does take time to decipher some of things you are saying though), and the only things I speak about with great confidence, are finance, and refereeing/laws of the game, as they are the areas .of my expertise.


And now I await your apology for both your personal attack, and having to show you again how FFP works.
If you have the courtesy to do that, I will reciprocate for bringing up your lack of education.

 

[HobbitSpur]

I bet he hasnt heard anything - he is a knob. He reminds me of that finger puppet forgot the name

 

[shelfmonkey]

It may not be complete bollox....

Just to clarify VY, have you been told something akin to this?

 

[wadewill]

No, I haven't' agreed with you at all. Because if two very good teams are equally shit in the one game it tends to show that they are bringing each other down. Which is what happened.

You want Spurs to have been "awful" - without context - because it suits your agenda. The corollary of your position is that Liverpool were, therefore, good. but they were not. Because we didn't allow them to be. Because we fought and ran and kept our position and did all the things we needed to to keep in a game that we were fucked over in by an awful decision (personal opinion but remains true even if you think it was handball).

It was a shit game between two very good teams - a game unlike any other in recent memory between those same teams. Because stakes, because of the early pen. It was a shit game because it was dour - but we had to be pretty good to be in the game until the 87th minute (or whenever Origi scored)

You've made this into a shit performance to suit your agenda. Anyone else looking objectively at that game - and the recent League performances of those two clubs - would assume Spurs had done remarkably well to still be in the fucking game.

So, no - I don't agree with you. I think you are shitting on the team unfairly. Using a performance in a CL final that you clearly don't understand or appreciate.

Put it like this - if we are as bad as you say that Liverpool team should have stuck 5 past us right?

They didn't.

They know what a battle they had that night.

Pity some Spurs fans don't.

Liverpool didn’t get out of 2nd gear, they didn’t need to

 

[ValenciaYid]

Just to clarify VY, have you been told something akin to this?

Unfortunately yes. I saw this posted and as is my MO regarding talk shite, completely ignored it. Then i got a text referring to it suggesting that it may not be complete crap...

I hope it doesnt come to fruition, as with transfers, these things are fluid and all can change in a heartbeat....

One thing is clear, all is not well and one way or the other it needs to be sorted for the benefit of the club and the fans....

 

[JimmyG2]

Talksport?
Durham?
Pochettino leaving after Sunday?

'I don't believe it'

I'm with Wilson