Alderweireld's advisor sends Spurs transfer warning

[guiltyparty]

@guiltyparty what's to D'oh?

If the only thing stopping him signing a new deal is a release clause what does that tell you?

If a better offer comes he'll probably take it, also why this advisor is saying that we should agree to sell him if he doesn't get a new deal.

You would rather give him the deal he wants and risk losing him in January after someone triggers his clause?

Was actually accidental, apologies. I never use Doh or Spam. Have unchecked

Everything I read suggests he already has a clause though and the wrangles are over removing it. Think @davidmatzdorf has done a great job of explaining

 

[1882andallthat]

We need to sort out the ridiculous amomoly in this club that currently equates to him earning less than Sissoko does every week if the figures are to be believed !

 

[Japhet]

Toby is a world class defender but ive read some shit here about he should be on the same wage as Kane.

Harry Kane....it's become easy to underestimate what we have, HK is one of the worlds most prolific strikers, who actually wins us games and inflates our goal deficits.

I'm not saying defenders ain't as important as strikers but in this case Kane, Eriksen, Alli Alderweireld, Lloris, imo is the order of importance.

Toby is massively important to us. He is at the core of our backline which was the best in the League last year and organises our defence. He's an incredible player and if we want to keep him we should put him on a par with our top earners and it's pointless to suggest otherwise.

 

[JimmyG2]

Pay the man.
Is there a any concept of goodwill in these paragraphs?
As in 'thanks Toby
you're doing a great job and can do so
for at least two more years.

He's integral to the team
as important as any other member.
Proper Ledley King type Spurs player.

If they try to rob us blind, thanks and goodbye
we now have replacements of high quality.
He deserves his final pay day at Spurs
and it is in our interest to make sure he gets it.

Like the boy
not so sure about his agent
but was ever thus.
.

 

[JimmyG2]

Pay the man.
Is there a any concept of goodwill in these paragraphs?
As in 'thanks Toby
you're doing a great job and can do so
for at least two more years.

He's integral to the team
as important as any other member.
Proper Ledley King type Spurs player.

If they try to rob us blind, thanks and goodbye
we now have replacements of high quality.
He deserves his final pay day at Spurs
and it is in our interest to make sure he gets it.

Like the boy
not so sure about his agent
but was ever thus.
.

 

[JimmyG2]

So good they printed it twice
Sorry

 

[Thewobbler]

Even though we haven't had any success atm we are now a top club in the PL and we have great players who are attracting interest from the big boys. The players now want big wages so we either pay up or we keep losing them.

Obviously the problem is we can't afford to have every player on 100k a week yet so we have to sell a good player every now and then ie walker.

 

[sak11]

Toby is a world class defender but ive read some shit here about he should be on the same wage as Kane.

Harry Kane....it's become easy to underestimate what we have, HK is one of the worlds most prolific strikers, who actually wins us games and inflates our goal deficits.

I'm not saying defenders ain't as important as strikers but in this case Kane, Eriksen, Alli Alderweireld, Lloris, imo is the order of importance.

By giving Toby a pay rise we aren't underestimating or belittling Harry kane. We are appreciating what we have in Alderweireld. Harry is a phenomenon and we are lucky no doubt. As a team we build from the back. Have a look at last seasons stats and the games where Toby was absent injured and the ones where Harry was out. Im pretty sure we lost more points when Toby was out than when Harry was....

 

[Shadydan]

Toby is a world class defender but ive read some shit here about he should be on the same wage as Kane.

Harry Kane....it's become easy to underestimate what we have, HK is one of the worlds most prolific strikers, who actually wins us games and inflates our goal deficits.

I'm not saying defenders ain't as important as strikers but in this case Kane, Eriksen, Alli Alderweireld, Lloris, imo is the order of importance.

It's about parity mate, he's one of the most important players in our team and he should be recogised for that.

 

[Janice]

Chill? Itk say his contact is all good ?

 

[davidmatzdorf]

I very much doubt that the sticking point is about parity in wages. Levy has a long record of rewarding good performance with increased cash, in exchange for longer service. Why would he be opposed to increasing Alderweireld's wages to a comparable level comparable to the best-paid squad members? I'm sure Pochettino has left him in no doubt that Toby is one of our 2-3 best footballers.

The sticking point has to be about the "longer service" part of the equation. If Toby's agent is insisting on a fresh release clause in the new contract, especially if it is the more common "trigger price" variety and not the complicated one he has now, then THFC isn't getting anything from the deal. Levy doesn't do gifts, he does negotiations.

And we've only just signed two more central defenders, which makes Alderweireld replaceable. If he wants a release clause in his new contract, what's the point for THFC? They'd just be paying more in exchange for the same effective length of service.

 

[14/04/91]

This publication has conveniently missed off Toby's comments which are "I leave everything to my father".

So it could be asked what is the role of this 'advisor' and how much weight do his comments carry? If Toby or Mr Alderweireld senior go to press, this would be more concerning.

Toby also says "of course a great deal has happened recently". Doesn't read as worrying to me.

 

[Khilari]

Key part of article, "one of Toby's advisers".

Ok, thanks for your warning. As we know, Daniel Levy takes really kindly to negotiating publicly in the media. Good luck with that.

 

[double0]

By giving Toby a pay rise we aren't underestimating or belittling Harry kane. We are appreciating what we have in Alderweireld. Harry is a phenomenon and we are lucky no doubt. As a team we build from the back. Have a look at last seasons stats and the games where Toby was absent injured and the ones where Harry was out. Im pretty sure we lost more points when Toby was out than when Harry was....

I fully agree Toby should be on a significant wage increase along with the majority of the squad however I don't think he should be on the same money as Harry Kane.

Contracts really are what are negotiated at the time of signing, if it fair the Sissoko gets paid more than Alderweireld?

Obviously not.

 

[Lilbaz]

Those new signings indicate to me Toby will be gone in Summer. Huge fkin mistake imo if that happens especially moving into our new stadium. Hope I'm wrong. Agree with other posters he should be on same money as Kane.

He is nowhere near as valuable to us as a club as kane is. Yes on the pitch he is probably as important but not off it.
Kane brings attention and sponsorship deals. His presence helps pay the others wages.

The reason the agent is piping up is because we have the power. If we offer toby £100k a week he can't turn it down. Otherwise he'll be losing £50k a week till his contract expires or someone buys out the clause. He'll be around 30 then. Would one of the mega clubs want to buy a 30 year old or go for someone younger?

 

[tototoner]

"unsettled"

really

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

But these clubs will have to negotiate with Tottenham’s chairman, Daniel Levy.”

There endeth the tale.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

It's all over the board and just about everywhere. For about a year. The release clause is already there and THFC want to remove it from any future contract.

The release clause kicks in in 2019, but it isn't as simple as "if someone offers the money we have to sell". I think there's an option to better the deal and retain the player.

THFC are keen to substitute an improved contract, but without the release clause, in good time before 2019.

That's the part that's publicly known.My interpretation is that the wrangle is because Levy & co. insist on deleting the release clause from any subsequent contract and the two sides disagree on the nature and value of the compensation for removing it.

The first link contains some wrong info, but here it is anyway:

http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/19/arsen...he-reportedly-rejects-new-spurs-deal-6584573/

I think this is the correct version:

"...the €30m release clause (a very reasonable £25m) is pretty much worthless for the next couple of years. The defender's current deal expires in 2020, with the clause only becoming active in 2019. Essentially, it's to help protect Alderweireld leaving the club on a free."

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/toby-al...-as-more-release-clause-stories-emerge-122294

And this:

"...the clause is only active in the summer of 2019 if Tottenham take up a one year option and extend his deal to 2020. Alderweireld’s contract also states that any transfer would have to be completed at least 14 days before the closure of that summer’s transfer window."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...ew-deal-toby-alderweireld-25m-release-clause/

And finally:

"Belgium newspaper Le Soir, where the claims were first published, have since established that there is a clause - active only in the summer of 2019 if Tottenham take up an option to extend his contract by a further year to 2020.

The clause would, in theory, then be active for a period of until 14 days before the end of the summer transfer window.

The clause was inserted by Spurs to protect themselves against losing Alderweireld on a free transfer at the end of his contract - if they want to keep him at the club."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/toby-alderweireld-254m-release-clause-9404416

By the time that clause kicks in he will be thirty years old, not exactly over the hill, but a far more short term stop gap of a center back in my opinion.

I would think that Levy will wait until next Summer when we have moved back into the new stadium to see what is the view of Poch.

With Sanchez having a season under his belt i wouldn't be at all surprised if Poch decides to sell.

Foyth will be around twenty one and if he develops like everyone seems to think then we will be to to go for the next decade.

Chill everyone Poch has this.

 

[DCSPUR]

think this will work out fine. For the reasons @davidmatzdorf and others note above, Toby's best play is to sign for big wages (close to Kane and Hugo) minus any "trigger" clause because (a) he is with a team he loves and a club that loves him (b) he will make very decent money (c) he could probably get a final pay day deal in his mid 30s in the US if he really wanted a bit of a bump to the bank account.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

I'd make him the highest paid player. He's 28 years old, in his prime and has 1 last big contract. Kane is still young and his wages will eventually eclipse Toby's. Show the man how much we valve him. It is ether that or we sell him next summer and cash in. I know which option I prefer.