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ATZR

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But Inter need to make 60 million profit, how are they going to get Bremer, the other CB they're looking at, the RB they're looking at, replace Perisic, sign Dybala, Loan Lukaku all for the mere price of selling Martinez? Do Chelsea have the money to cover all of that whilst they simultaneously need to replace 2 CB's, possible another 2 defenders leaving and sort their midfield out. Doesn't seem realistic to me that Inter only have to sell Martinez considering if they're getting Lukaku on loan in return then they need to offer Chelsea a discount.
I've seen a lot of comments like this so I will try to address some of the moving parts involved. I know some of this is extremely dry and has only loose connection with Spurs but understanding it a bit better will help you get a clearer picture of Inter's transfer dealings (as there seem to be a lot connection between the two clubs these days!)

RE the €60m.. Even in the Inter community there is a lot of uncertainty about that infamous €60m figure.

No one seems to know for sure whether it means:

- finishing the transfer window with a €60m net profit
- raising €60m in CASH to be used on running expenses (player salaries, transfer fee installments etc.)
- raising €60m in CAPITAL GAINS for accounting purposes
- raising €60m to be spent paying back the loan Suning took from Oaktree (a hedgefund who lent Suning about 260m)

Each of these situations would have a different impact on the club and transfer plans of course. My guess is that it's most likely either second point, or potentially the third.

Despite the reports, Inter obviously does have some money to spend. The reason the club is so tight on finances is because of parent company Suning's disastrous financial situation back home in China, and the government restrictions which prevent expenditure on foreign investment. There is also Inter's heavy debt. Inter has a massive problem with liquidity, but again, this does not mean that Inter doesn't have any cash.

To address your other points:

Bremer seems to genuinely appreciate Inter being the first to contacting him. He's also said his idol is former Inter and Bayern defender Lucio, while his middle name "Bremer" is a tribute to German and Inter left back Andy Brehme. He seems to have promised to join Inter which is hugely important considering the club is strapped. Additionally, he had an agreement to leave Torino at the end of the season. He only renewed his contract (1 yr extension) out of a sense of duty to the club (he's the club captain / vice captain) so that Torino could get a better fee for his transfer.

Torino will also lose Andrea Belotti on a free transfer and they are interested in replacing him with Inter's striker Andrea Pinamonti. Pinamonti is 23 years old, valued between 15-25m, and scored 13 league goals last season on loan at Empoli. Inter are keen to insert him into the Bremer deal to bring down the amount of actual cash required. Keep in mind Italian clubs will do a lot of player swaps at inflated valuations to help each other out on the books. I suspect the final deal will be something like Pinamonti + 20m for Bremer. It would be an amazing deal for us.

As for Perisic, he has already been replaced by Gosens in January who was signed from Atalanta on loan + obligation. Gosens seemed like a luxury signing at the time considering Perisic's amazing form but his signing gave the club some leverage in negotiations and he's likely the best replacement possible. Before his injury, Gosens scored an insane 11 goals with 6 assists in just 32 games as LWB.

Dybala would join on a free transfer of course. While his wages would be expensive, it is large transfers and amortization that Inter must avoid - we can actually afford some hefty wages which are paid in regular, smaller sums (which is why I think the 60m is for day-to-day expenses like salaries). Additionally, Sanchez and Vidal (earning 7m and 6.5m respectively) will both leave. Perisic was earning 5m and he has left. Vecino 2.5m and de Vrij 4m will also leave. Basically there's a lot of contracts expiring and players leaving which will take a lot of the wages off our books and allow us to afford Dybala. (These wages are all NET, not gross)

As for Lukuku - this is the weird one. I most definitely do not want him, and if we were to commit to purchasing him after a loan period, we would almost certainly have to sell Lautaro. There's a lot of noise about an expensive loan and part of his salary being paid by Chelsea but we'll have to wait and see until more details emerge. It's clear he wants to join Inter but I do not want him back, let alone at the expense of Lautaro or compromising other plans. I guess in that sense Lukaku joining Inter may be good news for Spurs fans because it would put enormous pressure on us to sell a key player like Bastoni or Lautaro to finance the deal.

Lastly, and thankfully, there is a lot more noise in recent days about Inter trying to "save" its core players by selling off as much deadwood as possible and even some important-but-not-crucial players like Dumfries. Di Gregorio, a goalkeeper on loan at Monza, was redeemed for €4.5m in a obligatory clause as Monza were promoted to Serie A. There's a few promising young players like Casadei, Satriano, Esposito and Agoume who have the interest of smaller clubs too and Inter will monetize on them. So in addition to these youth, if we can get a further 10-15m for Pinamonti, 10-15m for de Vrij and 30m for Dumfries, that's €60m more or less done without having to sell a core player.

Personally I thought this was the obvious thing to do instead of reaching for the nuclear option immediately but what the hell do I know.
 
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SambaSpurs

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I've seen a lot of comments like this so I will try to address some of the moving parts involved. I know some of this is extremely dry and has only loose connection with Spurs but understanding it a bit better will help you get a clearer picture of Inter's transfer dealings (as there seem to be a lot connection between the two clubs these days!)

RE the €60m.. Even in the Inter community there is a lot of uncertainty about that infamous €60m figure.

No one seems to know for sure whether it means:

- finishing the transfer window with a €60m net profit
- raising €60m in CASH to be used on running expenses (player salaries, transfer fee installments etc.)
- raising €60m in CAPITAL GAINS for accounting purposes
- raising €60m to be spent paying back the loan Suning took from Oaktree (a hedgefund who lent Suning about 260m)

Each of these situations would have a different impact on the club and transfer plans of course. My guess is that it's most likely either second point, or potentially the third.

Despite the reports, Inter obviously does have some money to spend. The reason the club is so tight on finances is because of parent company Suning's disastrous financial situation back home in China, and the government restrictions which prevent expenditure on foreign investment. There is also Inter's heavy debt. Inter has a massive problem with liquidity, but again, this does not mean that Inter doesn't have any cash.

To address your other points:

Bremer seems to genuinely appreciate Inter being the first to contacting him. He's also said his idol is former Inter and Bayern defender Lucio, while his middle name "Bremer" is a tribute to German and Inter left back Andy Brehme. He seems to have promised to join Inter which is hugely important considering the club is strapped. Additionally, he had an agreement to leave Torino at the end of the season. He only renewed his contract (1 yr extension) out of a sense of duty to the club (he's the club captain / vice captain) so that Torino could get a better fee for his transfer.

Torino will also lose Andrea Belotti on a free transfer and they are interested in replacing him with Inter's striker Andrea Pinamonti. Pinamonti is 23 years old, valued between 15-25m, and scored 13 league goals last season on loan at Empoli. Inter are keen to insert him into the Bremer deal to bring down the amount of actual cash required. Keep in mind Italian clubs will do a lot of player swaps at inflated valuations to help each other out on the books. I suspect the final deal will be something like Pinamonti + 20m for Bremer. It would be an amazing deal for us.

As for Perisic, he has already been replaced by Gosens in January who was signed from Atalanta on loan + obligation. Gosens seemed like a luxury signing at the time considering Perisic's amazing form but his signing gave the club some leverage in negotiations and he's likely the best replacement possible. Before his injury, Gosens scored an insane 11 goals with 6 assists in just 32 games as LWB.

Dybala would join on a free transfer of course. While his wages would be expensive, it is large transfers and amortization that Inter must avoid - we can actually afford some hefty wages which are paid in regular, smaller sums (which is why I think the 60m is for day-to-day expenses like salaries). Additionally, Sanchez and Vidal (earning 7m and 6.5m respectively) will both leave. Perisic was earning 5m and he has left. Vecino 2.5m and de Vrij 4m will also leave. Basically there's a lot of contracts expiring and players leaving which will take a lot of the wages off our books and allow us to afford Dybala. (These wages are all NET, not gross)

As for Lukuku - this is the weird one. I most definitely do not want him, and if we were to commit to purchasing him after a loan period, we would almost certainly have to sell Lautaro. There's a lot of noise about an expensive loan and part of his salary being paid by Chelsea but we'll have to wait and see until more details emerge. It's clear he wants to join Inter but I do not want him back, let alone at the expense of Lautaro or compromising other plans. I guess in that sense Lukaku joining Inter may be good news for Spurs fans because it would put enormous pressure on us to sell a key player like Bastoni or Lautaro to finance the deal.

Lastly, and thankfully, there is a lot more noise in recent days about Inter trying to "save" its core players by selling off as much deadwood as possible and even some important-but-not-crucial players like Dumfries. Di Gregorio, a goalkeeper on loan at Monza, was redeemed for €4.5m in a obligatory clause as Monza were promoted to Serie A. There's a few promising young players like Casadei, Satriano, Esposito and Agoume who have the interest of smaller clubs too and Inter will monetize on them. So in addition to these youth, if we can get a further 10-15m for Pinamonti, 10-15m for de Vrij and 30m for Dumfries, that's €60m more or less done without having to sell a core player.

Personally I thought this was the obvious thing to do instead of reaching for the nuclear option immediately but what the hell do I know.
Cheers for explaining from Inter’s side, a good read. One thing I’m confused with is if this profit/cash inflow has to happen by end of June or end of transfer window. The alternative of selling 6+ players instead of Bastoni will take time. The 3 players you list maybe get you the €60m needed (at a push), but how do you pay the remainder of the Bremer fee, Dybala signing fee, and can Dumfries be replaced from within the squad or is that more money out? All with youth team players to cash strapped lower level Italian sides that know you need the money desperately?

I think everyone agrees the only way Bastoni signs is if Inter have to sell him. He’s settled at the huge team he supports, who are now performing well in his home country. Also, he’s still very young and a failed move to a more difficult league could scupper national team prospects or set his career development back.

Although it has to be said that the media in both Italy and England are reporting of negotiations. Di Marzio as recently as yesterday. Surely this doesn’t happen without encouragement from Inter, who have recent history of selling big players in hakimi and Lukaku.

It kind of appears as if no one wants to leave Inter, so you’re needing to convince 1 player in Bastoni rather than 6 or 7 so you can make the required money this summer (not including Sanchez and Vidal).
 

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Thing with that though is even if they did swap Bastoni for Lukaku, they'd still need to sell someone else for their balance sheet.
Unless I've got that totally wrong which is very possible
 

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Thing with that though is even if they did swap Bastoni for Lukaku, they'd still need to sell someone else for their balance sheet.
Unless I've got that totally wrong which is very possible
They’ll be some sort of fishy deal involving delayed fees or something I’m sure of it.
 

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Thing with that though is even if they did swap Bastoni for Lukaku, they'd still need to sell someone else for their balance sheet.
Unless I've got that totally wrong which is very possible

There is a situation where Chelsea pay a slightly reduced fee for Bastoni/Lautaro while sending Lukaku on loan to Inter for 1-2 years. Gives Inter a net transfer income. It just depends on how willing Chelsea are to let Lukaku go elsewhere for peanuts whilst they still have £80m to pay for him. The new owners may be looking at Lukaku as a sunk cost of the prior regime and decide to go ahead with it.

I'm not convinced Bastoni would go to Chelsea (Conte is the only thing giving us a chance), and it doesn't sound like Lautaro or Skriniar will leave lightly either.
 

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There is a situation where Chelsea pay a slightly reduced fee for Bastoni/Lautaro while sending Lukaku on loan to Inter for 1-2 years. Gives Inter a net transfer income. It just depends on how willing Chelsea are to let Lukaku go elsewhere for peanuts whilst they still have £80m to pay for him. The new owners may be looking at Lukaku as a sunk cost of the prior regime and decide to go ahead with it.

I'm not convinced Bastoni would go to Chelsea (Conte is the only thing giving us a chance), and it doesn't sound like Lautaro or Skriniar will leave lightly either.
Never put anything past that dodgy club....
 

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It could be possible they sell Bastoni to us and do a straight swap of Martinez for Lukaku. Particularly if they get Dybala too. Lukaku and Dybala up top is not bad at all and they would have funds from Bastoni for Bremer. I can certainly see them shuffling the pack a bit and doing some creative deals. They will need a big sale though and this one is most likely.
 

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Let's assume this is still a goer and Chelsea don't manage to shit on our cornflakes (intentionally or otherwise) for once...

With Italy coming back to England ahead of the game on Saturday is there a chance we could get him in for a cheeky tour/pre-medical this week?
 

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It could be possible they sell Bastoni to us and do a straight swap of Martinez for Lukaku. Particularly if they get Dybala too. Lukaku and Dybala up top is not bad at all and they would have funds from Bastoni for Bremer. I can certainly see them shuffling the pack a bit and doing some creative deals. They will need a big sale though and this one is most likely.
I think the rumours are they may sell Martinez bringing dybala on a free and Lukaku on loan.

Means they don't have to sell Bastoni.

It is all a bit crazy though ATM.
 

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There is a situation where Chelsea pay a slightly reduced fee for Bastoni/Lautaro while sending Lukaku on loan to Inter for 1-2 years. Gives Inter a net transfer income. It just depends on how willing Chelsea are to let Lukaku go elsewhere for peanuts whilst they still have £80m to pay for him. The new owners may be looking at Lukaku as a sunk cost of the prior regime and decide to go ahead with it.

I'm not convinced Bastoni would go to Chelsea (Conte is the only thing giving us a chance), and it doesn't sound like Lautaro or Skriniar will leave lightly either.

I think as fans it is quite hard to second guess what is happening and just let it play out on this one.
 

mil1lion

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I think the rumours are they may sell Martinez bringing dybala on a free and Lukaku on loan.

Means they don't have to sell Bastoni.

It is all a bit crazy though ATM.
Even if they get Lukaku on loan there's still a fee to pay for that. I guess it just gets taken off what Chelsea still owe them. I just don't see it being enough to cover what they need though.
 
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