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Are our players fitter than opposition players?

dondo

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We seem to come on strong in the later stages of games and have a few late winners this season. Poch double training sessions having an effect? Or just a coincidence?
 

beats1

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We seem to come on strong in the later stages of games and have a few late winners this season. Poch double training sessions having an effect? Or just a coincidence?
I would say the opposite

The teams we play are much more fresher than us and today they started to get tired after we couldn't get out of our half for most of the game

We have quality in the team and that quality will help us in the poor performances
 

guate

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We seem to come on strong in the later stages of games and have a few late winners this season. Poch double training sessions having an effect? Or just a coincidence?

Undoubtedly this is down to Mauricio and is no coincidence we have now won 4 games with goals coming in the final minutes. Even though it seems his high pressing game still hasn't been totally accepted by all the squad everyone's' fitness levels are now beyond question as these late goals have shown.
 

dondo

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I would say the opposite

The teams we play are much more fresher than us and today they started to get tired after we couldn't get out of our half for most of the game

We have quality in the team and that quality will help us in the poor performances


You've lost me mate , fitness is how you finish the match not how you start it
 

double0

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Whats desperately lacking in our team is pace also we need to be quicker moving the ball towards goal scoring situation...still way to slow imo.
 

ShaunL84

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When you do fuck all for the first 80 minutes, you tend to have energy left.

Only joking, we chased the ball around for long periods against West Ham and today against Swansea, great mental strength and energy to push on.
 

dondo

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I used to call George Graham's arsenal lucky for the amount of late winners they used to get to my dad.
He said it not luck if it happens that often, they are fitter than the opposition
 

beats1

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You've lost me mate , fitness is how you finish the match not how you start it
I used to call George Graham's arsenal lucky for the amount of late winners they used to get to my dad.
He said it not luck if it happens that often, they are fitter than the opposition
Except the game plan was to press the team and we struggled to do that

Except a pochettino team doing double sessions, has always struggled to finish the match strong because they are tired

Except that the same exact argument could be used and has been used, for saying that because pochettinos teams have struggled in the last 20 mins that double sessions hurt his teams

Except that the team is very fatigued at the moment due to the constant playing of midweek games and hence struggled to press like they should of
 

etchedchaos

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You expend more energy without the ball than you do with it, considering Swansea had the lion's share of possession in the second half, our fitness levels must be higher.
 

dondo

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Except the game plan was to press the team and we struggled to do that

Except a pochettino team doing double sessions, has always struggled to finish the match strong because they are tired

Except that the same exact argument could be used and has been used, for saying that because pochettinos teams have struggled in the last 20 mins that double sessions hurt his teams

Except that the team is very fatigued at the moment due to the constant playing of midweek games and hence struggled to press like they should of

Expect we did press Swansea today
Except we are finishing matches strongly
Play completely different 11 generally in midweek matches
Apart from that your spot on dude(y)
 

beats1

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Expect we did press Swansea today
Except we are finishing matches strongly
Play completely different 11 generally in midweek matches
Apart from that your spot on dude(y)
We didn't press swansea today, Kane did but they hard the ball most of the time and we sat deep

2 of those 4 games, the comebacks came as a result of a man getting sent off, so technically speaking have 11 players does make you fitter than 10 players as they have to do less work

We haven't played a completely different 11, we finished matches strongly under Tim Sherwood and AVB, were we fitter then or are people taking the gimmick of double sessions

Last season in the last 20 mins we won these points

Cardiff 0-1 Tottenham - Paulinho 93 winner
Tottenham 1-0 Hull - Soldado 80 min winner
Fulham 1-2 Tottenham - 2 goals in last 20 mins after losing 1 nil
Tottenham 3-2 Southampton - Siggy 90min winner
West Brom 3-3 Tottenham - Eriksen 90min winner

The season before in the last 5 games, we scored goals in the last 20 mins to change the result
 

nickspurs

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I was coming in to make almost exactly the same thread.

I do think it makes a difference. A bit more stamina at the end has to make a difference to concentration, belief and that crucial extra yard.

I like being the team that finishes more strongly. Bit of a change from Spurs sides of old. Who's with me?
 

theShiznit

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I think the fatigue is evident in the middle stages of games. But when the opposition begin to tire we do then show good stamina. (If still in it at that point)
 
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Flynn

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Today was Swansea's 19th game of the season.

In that time we've played 26.

I do think we look fitter this season than we have for a while but direct comparison when we play twice a week is hard.
 

KILLA_SIN

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Its too eaerly to tell, a training plan like this to improve fitness of players would take more than 6 months. Probably about two years
 

dondo

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We didn't press swansea today, Kane did but they hard the ball most of the time and we sat deep

2 of those 4 games, the comebacks came as a result of a man getting sent off, so technically speaking have 11 players does make you fitter than 10 players as they have to do less work

We haven't played a completely different 11, we finished matches strongly under Tim Sherwood and AVB, were we fitter then or are people taking the gimmick of double sessions

Last season in the last 20 mins we won these points

Cardiff 0-1 Tottenham - Paulinho 93 winner
Tottenham 1-0 Hull - Soldado 80 min winner
Fulham 1-2 Tottenham - 2 goals in last 20 mins after losing 1 nil
Tottenham 3-2 Southampton - Siggy 90min winner
West Brom 3-3 Tottenham - Eriksen 90min winner

The season before in the last 5 games, we scored goals in the last 20 mins to change the result


The late goals you quote are over 38 games not 16 and I think we have been playing a higher energy game than last season
 
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