Are Spurs missing a Golden Opportunity?

[900triumph]

I'm pleased to see that Spurs consistently sign young English players with potential. What we have not yet seen is consistent progression into the first team squad. Whilst there are no guarantees that potential develops into playing excellence, are we not missing out on the possible development of a team rather than individual players? Harking back to Hansen's Man Utd team of kids the current Spanish national team, we do not need to look too hard to see examples of teams that function at a high level through being developed
together as a team. With the current Spurs scenario of individual loans for young players I cannot see how this benefits loyalty or team bonding. It seems that many Prem teams see the future the same way now, focussing on individual talent rather than developing a talented team. To me it is no coincidence that the teams performing to the highest level at the World Cup have been coached as teams rather than a group of disparate talents. The Germans as a team outperform their individual reputations going in to the tournament.
Surely we should be developing Bostock, Parrett, Obika, The Kyles etc in a team together? Some of these guys are going in to their third season of lower league loans and with each loan I'm sure they feel less of a Spurs player and more of a lower league journeyman. Bring back the reserve team of old and give these kids a chance to gel as a competitive team, before they all end up playing for QPR Brentford Yeovil etc permanently.

 

[jimtheyid]

I do kind of miss the reserves. But if the standard of the reserved league is not up to scratch what can you do?

Maybe send them on loan but stipulate friendlies between spurs XI's so they get used to playing together?

I don't know what the soloution is.

 

[Pringle]

i think we are finding the balance tbh. We are giving the players competitive football, whilst also having a clause allowing us to bring them back in the week to train together or play a friendly behind closed doors. The reason for this is for the reason you give above - to play together as a team. I think we are doing it perfectly tbh.

 

[AngerManagement]

it is about finding the balance, because playing competitive football is better than what the reserve league had become (even at lower level football) although you have to question which is better for a young players development....to train daily with a top four premier league club or play and train with Championship or league one level players.

 

[StartingPrice]

Yeah...No...Maybe...Dunno

 

[Dan Ashcroft]

You do realise it has been 12 years since we brought ONE player through the academy who has had a successful career with us (Crouch and Luke Young have arguably done so elsewhere).

We'll be lucky if one of Mason and Caulker has a top flight career, while none of the others will.

The myth that you can bring teams through is based on van Gaal's Ajax from 1994/5. Even Arsenal actually have a very unimpressive ratio of home-grown success.

It's a numbers game and one real success per decade is not an unusual return. It's about finding that one, not building a team who will simply be sold to Southend and Orient anyway.

 

[mil1lion]

What I think we're doing is, bringing the youth team through together, and when they're ready to move up a level, we're loaning them to the Championship/League One. Those who make it will come back to the 1st team squad. The problem with youth level in this country is that the youth leagues are low. It's not like in Spain where Barca B play in the lower division.

So we have to loan players out in order to get them playing at a higher level. The jump from youth football to premier league football is so huge. We really don't have much choice if we're going to help these lads develop. Our best homegrown player since King is O'Hara, and he benefited a great deal from his loan to Millwall.

I would love to one day see a similar set up to Spain. Barca are the perfect example. Their Barca B side play the same way as the senior side. It really does help when they join the first team. I agree that it doesn't help having our young players joining different clubs.

A Spurs B side playing in League One would be ideal, but I doubt it will ever happen.

 

[StartingPrice]

You do realise it has been 12 years since we brought ONE player through the academy who has had a successful career with us (Crouch and Luke Young have arguably done so elsewhere).

We'll be lucky if one of Mason and Caulker has a top flight career, while none of the others will.

The myth that you can bring teams through is based on van Gaal's Ajax from 1994/5. Even Arsenal actually have a very unimpressive ratio of home-grown success.

It's a numbers game and one real success per decade is not an unusual return. It's about finding that one, not building a team who will simply be sold to Southend and Orient anyway.

Quick, tell Dan Levy...he's already wasted millions on a wide ranging project, jeopardizing our very future, based on this myth:-|

 

[Pringle]

You do realise it has been 12 years since we brought ONE player through the academy who has had a successful career with us (Crouch and Luke Young have arguably done so elsewhere).

We'll be lucky if one of Mason and Caulker has a top flight career, while none of the others will.

The myth that you can bring teams through is based on van Gaal's Ajax from 1994/5. Even Arsenal actually have a very unimpressive ratio of home-grown success.

It's a numbers game and one real success per decade is not an unusual return. It's about finding that one, not building a team who will simply be sold to Southend and Orient anyway.

i agree totally 100%

 

[SpunkyBackpack]

Yeah...No...Maybe...Dunno

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