Arsenal

[Arden]

Yeah it's an odd one. That Lee from AFTV was talking about how imperative it is to stop finishing below us and a lot of his hurt comes from how they are now behind us in various aspects. Now I hate Arsenal as much as the next person and will always hate them more than Chelsea for example despite some feeling otherwise but I think a hell of a lot more about Spurs just doing well than Spurs doing better than Arsenal. I'll be honest in that with the seasons in a row we've finished above them, it's been nice for a bit of bragging rights and such but I've never actually greatly dwelled on and revelled in the fact that we've accomplished that. Despite all that there is a part of me that respects someone who still sees the rivalry as he does and to the degree he does.

Like you say though it shows in their players as well. The great thing about the recent NLD is how much more professional we looked. They looked like the desperate, overly-emotional children on the day whilst we looked like the calm, sure of ourselves mature team that just saw it as a game we needed to win and get the job done in.

I think this comes more from the same mentality of if you can’t win a game don’t lose it. Similarly applied it works on if you can’t with the title or finish top 4 at least finish above Spurs/Arsenal depending on which side of good/evil you sit

 

[LondonOllie]

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[TheChosenOne]

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"Goners" more like.

 

[aliyid]

Think the only player of theirs I rate is Martinelli. Saka gets a lot of hype but I’ve not been convinced by him yet and the rest are all capable of massive car crash moments.

You’d think they’re as bored of the ‘No trophies’ reply as we are but nope it keeps on being used time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.

No doubt when we finally lift a trophy it will be but it’s not the league/CL/Unbeatables/etc

 

[riggi]

Bloke in the barbers talking about how much he hates Tottenham. I can’t stand up for my turn as I have a boner.

 

[tommo84]

Think the only player of theirs I rate is Martinelli. Saka gets a lot of hype but I’ve not been convinced by him yet and the rest are all capable of massive car crash moments.

You’d think they’re as bored of the ‘No trophies’ reply as we are but nope it keeps on being used time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.

No doubt when we finally lift a trophy it will be but it’s not the league/CL/Unbeatables/etc

Saka is very good (11 goals and 7 assists in a team that only scored 61 goals shows how important he is to them). Odegaard is another very good player. They’ve got a number of good players but lack the kind of superstar who can elevate the rest of the team when they’re struggling.

As for Arsenal fans and their ‘no trophies’ jibe towards us, it’s all they have left. Many of them know they’ve fallen a long long way from where they were 20 years ago and local superiority was - for a while - a comfort blanket to help disguise how badly they were falling behind the teams at the very top. Now they don’t even have that on the pitch the only thing they can point to is silverware.

 

[Larkinho]

Another Arsenal fan being put in his place

 

[NickHSpurs]

Apparently throwing £100k a week at Nketiah on a 5 year deal, desperate scenes, they never learn ?

 

[barry]

Think the only player of theirs I rate is Martinelli. Saka gets a lot of hype but I’ve not been convinced by him yet and the rest are all capable of massive car crash moments.

You’d think they’re as bored of the ‘No trophies’ reply as we are but nope it keeps on being used time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.

No doubt when we finally lift a trophy it will be but it’s not the league/CL/Unbeatables/etc

I was trolling twitter yesterday, and that's all I got. I would love to win a cup to shut them up BUT domestic trophies, bar bragging rights, are next to useless compared to top 4. No one joined a club because they won the FA cup. It would be nice though.

 

[Delboy75]

I love the fact our strategy is literally the complete opposite to them. Elite manger over a rookie. Experienced ready players over kids. If they get off to a bad start next season Arteta and the whole club will be under enormous pressure.

 

[barry]

I love the fact our strategy is literally the complete opposite to them. Elite manger over a rookie. Experienced ready players over kids. If they get off to a bad start next season Arteta and the whole club will be under enormous pressure.

I just love the fact they're truly shit. How they've made it here doesn't bother me. It's been such a long time coming, and when you actually live in the battle grounds (Hackney) it's so sweet. Life is beautiful

 

[Albertbarich]

I think they could be in a bit of trouble.

Last season with no Europe and big breaks was their chance and they blew it.

Now they have no strikers apart from throwing 100k a week at one who has never shown any inclination he would be anywhere near good enough and no champions league to attract a top talent.

If they blow loads of money on one then they're squad is ill equipped to deal with the demands of europa league .

Plus the manager continues to make rookie mistakes in a league full of world class coaches.

Squad wise I think villa and Newcastle are very close to catching and surpassing them .

I genuinely believe next season they struggle to finish as high as eighth.

 

[whitechina]

Edu

The issue is, players like Martinelli and Marquinhos are far from the finished article so they'll need at leats 2 years to get up to speed and adapt to the PL as well as develop.

If Arsenal continue down this route they won't make leaps to winning titles because by the time the likes of Martinelli fully develop, bigger clubs will be sharking them.

Just think about this. If we operated in this manner, Conte would run a million miles away.

Thankfully we aren't and he didn't run.
We seem to be getting it together
COYS

 

[ajspurs]

I think they could be in a bit of trouble.

Last season with no Europe and big breaks was their chance and they blew it.

Now they have no strikers apart from throwing 100k a week at one who has never shown any inclination he would be anywhere near good enough and no champions league to attract a top talent.

If they blow loads of money on one then they're squad is ill equipped to deal with the demands of europa league .

Plus the manager continues to make rookie mistakes in a league full of world class coaches.

Squad wise I think villa and Newcastle are very close to catching and surpassing them .

I genuinely believe next season they struggle to finish as high as eighth.

I think it is quite dependant on their signings and they could still have a good window. If they manage to bring in Tielemens and Jesus for instance, they'd be two quite good additions, whether they can though is a whole different issue. I do agree though that they'll struggle if they blow loads of money on a striker with the need for more depth. Seen that Robbie from AFTV saying they need 10 players, and 3 (albeit now 2) top quality strikers. Never gonna happen.

I do certainly agree with the thought that they blew it last season though, don't think they'll get that close to top 4 for years to be honest and like you also say, I don't even think European football is a guarantee for them, at east not Europa.

 

[BoringOldFan]

I love the fact our strategy is literally the complete opposite to them. Elite manager over a rookie. Experienced ready players over kids. If they get off to a bad start next season Arteta and the whole club will be under enormous pressure.

Strategy? Seriously? We are in our fourth consecutive summer transfer window with a different manager. I don’t see anything particularly ’strategic’ about that!

To me, Conte is an example of “You can always rely on Daniel Levy to do the right thing - after he’s tried every possible alternative”. He’s employed rookies (Jol, Pochettino) and experienced managers (Redknapp, Mourinho) and pretty much everything in between.

Yes it’s good that things are looking up for us now. Long may it continue. But frankly it appears more that we’ve finally lucked out with Conte and Paratici now rather than seeing the culmination of a long term plan.

 

[Raitei]

Saw this on Reddit earlier, only Palace had fewer total injury days. Don't let them forget when they keep bringing up how it was injuries that hampered their season

 

[Spurslove]

I think I can see a theme running through all those names. I wonder what it could be...

I can see my comment has met with disapproval, but if anyone can point to any of those names and tell me if they think those players have been a great success with the goons, I'd be happy to change my mind.

 

[BorjeSpurs]

 

[PCozzie]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Can't breathe....

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Fucking hell. That's beautiful.

 

[Timberwolf]

Saw this on Reddit earlier, only Palace had fewer total injury days. Don't let them forget when they keep bringing up how it was injuries that hampered their season

Haha what a joke. There were plenty of Arsenal fans on twitter saying we never would've got top 4 if we had their injuries when we were also missing our best CB and a key midfielder for almost half a season each (and that's just the start).

Turns out their squad was just thin as fuck and they couldn't handle it. Also if you're going to sign a player like Tierney with a dodgy injury record you can't cry foul when, surprise surprise, he gets injured. Might be smart to get a half decent backup...