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Dele Alli at Everton

Tiffers

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Dele like many others benefitted massively from Eriksen & Dembele. Dembele constantly dragged defenders out of position to get the ball to the forwards and Eriksen could put the ball on a dime to Dele.
absolutely spot on they made him in an exceptional player
 

Ron Burgundy

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I think with Dele it's a classic example of people's expectations being the issue. Because his rise was so dramatic at such a young age people thought he was going to be a top 5 type player. Clearly he has settled into a lower category but still a very good player.

He's still a pretty good player. But which of the top 6 teams would he get into?

Not many IMO - he's not in our first XI IMO by way of example, and we finished 6th.
 

cliff jones

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If a player is happy to sit on the bench it means they are either a kid or a veteran or just shit

you’re taking this in the wrong direction. Not m/any players are. most realise that if they want to play for a big six club they have to fight for their place. We’ve had too many automatic starters for too long. Dele was one such player, with no signings coming in, got into a rut. Didn’t have to excel. Our fbs are currently also in this zone, as is Winks, and Sissoko. None of whom are actually good enough.
 

Locotoro

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And Maddison now seems incapable of tucking in his fooking label or the white stringy bits to the sides.

State of him...
That the first thing you were looking at rather than the girls saggy bum??

I think the only place he really excels is in a front two with Kane.
JM could fit him into the system we ended the season with by playing Son on LW and Lucas at RW with 2 upfront but Dele's style of play isn't really ideal unless he's told to play one touch (which he can do fairly well)
 
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DJS

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That the first thing you were looking at rather than the girls saggy bum??

I think the only place he really excels is in a front two with Kane.
JM could fit him into the system we ended the season with by playing Son on LW and Lucas at RW with 2 upfront but Dele's style of play isn't really ideal unless he's told to play one touch (which he can do fairly well)

She‘s okay but they’re probably shallow hangers on so meh really...
 

Dirtysanchez6

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I’ve a feeling we’ll end up with a midfield 3 of hojbjerg lo celso dele with hojbjerg sitting! Think dele is going to find his position here and I hope he ups his game and does this
 

fortworthspur

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he hasnt been awful, he just hasnt been the phenom we had for the first three seasons, and he's been injured a lot. still 3rd in goals and tied 3rd assists with fewer appearances. Only Son and Kane had a hand in more goals.
 

Havre

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I’ve a feeling we’ll end up with a midfield 3 of hojbjerg lo celso dele with hojbjerg sitting! Think dele is going to find his position here and I hope he ups his game and does this

I honestly still can't figure out which position he would be best in. He has had spells as a number 10 which has been brilliant, but then mainly (not exclusively) because he clearly has an eye for goals. He will never dictate play much from that position even if he can be effective with some intelligent passing and "flicks" occasionally. That role allows him to score a bit, but enough to justify holding that position? I'm not convinced. And in terms of "attributes" he isn't especially fast and even if his close control is very solid he will rarely run passed players dribbling. He has scored some sensational goals from distance, but his shot from range seems rather weak so those goals are more the spectacular type.

He seems a lot more suited to be a no. 8. Arriving late in the box he can still score. His stamina is excellent. He seems do be difficult to get passed 1 on 1. Technically his passing is sound. Still he has never really impressed me when he has played deeper.

He is an enigma to me. I really thought last season was going to be his year. I thought he looked extremely fit in pre-season, but then oh so average once again. Not bad, but average all over.

Will be interesting to see how he plays this coming season. If we could only get 90% of his former self back it would be a huge boost. And I don't see why not. To me he seems motivated, happy, intelligent and generally speaking fit.
 

emiley heskey

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I think dele should mould himself to thomas muller. Dele and muller neither of them are exactly number 10 or number 7 or 11 and obviously they are not pure number 9 ... But muller has found a role for himself in and around the dbox ... Dele is similar player like muller and he needs to be used like that rather than pure winger or attacking midfielder ...

Here is how muller invented a position for himself

 

tiger666

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I think dele should mould himself to thomas muller. Dele and muller neither of them are exactly number 10 or number 7 or 11 and obviously they are not pure number 9 ... But muller has found a role for himself in and around the dbox ... Dele is similar player like muller and he needs to be used like that rather than pure winger or attacking midfielder ...

Here is how muller invented a position for himself



You can't just become Thomas Muller. I very much doubt he has the footballing intelligence and off the ball movement. He also wouldn't offer anything defensively.
 

Havre

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Muller might be the best "ever" in that role (even if his career has hardly been stellar year in and year out) so I would agree it is difficult to expect Alli to become just as good, but I can certainly see the comparison in style.

Alli's off the ball movement playing in that 3-4-3 with Eriksen and Kane was exceptional in my opinion.

I guess that might be another weakness with Alli. He seems very reliant on the kind of players he is playing with. Obviously all are to some extent, but he might be more than the average player.
 

emiley heskey

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You can't just become Thomas Muller. I very much doubt he has the footballing intelligence and off the ball movement. He also wouldn't offer anything defensively.



If there is one player who can become like anothet thomas muller, that is dele alli .. Dele Alli is most closest to thomas muller in the world .. Alli thrives because of his intelligence off the ball movement. What alli lacks is muller's physicality and stamina...

In this video, the video narrator also told the most similar player to thomas muller is Dele Alli. Both of these player's characteristics are similar. Their main attribute is to find space and create space for other players in and around the dbox ... What alli needs to do is he needs more stamina and physicality and I think he can be as good as muller !!
 

emiley heskey

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Dele Alli isn’t blessed with extreme physical and technical abilities but he has the Intelligence and tactical awareness to be considered and rightly so as one of the finest attackers in the modern game.

Just like Bayern’s Thomas Muller and Napoli’s Jose Callejon, Dele is an exponent of the Raumdeuter role - thanks to his good football intelligence and his instinctive use of space. Their efficiency mainly relies on their mental and tactical strength and perhaps this is what makes it less visible to the eye.
 

aussiespursguy

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Dele Alli isn’t blessed with extreme physical and technical abilities but he has the Intelligence and tactical awareness to be considered and rightly so as one of the finest attackers in the modern game.

Just like Bayern’s Thomas Muller and Napoli’s Jose Callejon, Dele is an exponent of the Raumdeuter role - thanks to his good football intelligence and his instinctive use of space. Their efficiency mainly relies on their mental and tactical strength and perhaps this is what makes it less visible to the eye.
To be fair the article is 18 months old, and sprouts on basically what is said in the previous Video so nothing ground breaking at all.
The fact is we ALL know how effective Dele can be, however it depends on which Dele comes out to play.

Jose said it best when he first arrived. Is that Dele or his brother. It got a result. Maybe he needs to ask every game?

I'm just not sure what you are trying to say. Yes Dele is great at finding space. It's what he does when he is on song. Is he like Muller? No. Similar yes but not the same. Actually I doubt we will ever see a player the same as Thomas Muller. He is one of a kind.

For what its worth I think Dele's best position is a 10 in the 4-2-3-1 format. Caveat being, when he turns up.
 
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