Dele Alli at Everton

[coys200]

Actually think I might have sussed part of Dele problem. Coincidence that since Son is playing more central Dele goals have dried up ? If you look at positions from yesterday they are almost on top of each other. As Son has become more and more integral Dele has become less.

 

[dtxspurs]

Actually think I might have sussed part of Dele problem. Coincidence that since Son is playing more central Dele goals have dried up ? If you look at positions from yesterday they are almost on top of each other. As Son has become more and more integral Dele has become less. View attachment 57387

And I’d pick Son over Dele all day.

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

Just watched all he’s goals from 16/17 bar the wolves goal every one was a strikers goal actually even a poacher more tap ins than Kane. He’s a 10 or second striker he’s not a midfielder.

Wasn’t it the 16/17 season he scored that goal against Watford out of the box?

 

[ILS]

Yeah but what wins football matches?

You worry about all the other rubbish, the only thing people will see in a book or in some digital format somewhere is the score and bloke who put it in the back of the net.

Results based business, don't get caught up in the hype of anything else.

Teams win football matches.

I think you will find Dele is the one that got caught up in the hype as once his goals and assists dried up, he has now seen for what he is which is a bang average premiership player.

He will be playing for another mid table club in two years.

 

[Hazelton]

I think he's just been found out. He's never been a great technician and he has no pace whatsoever, he relied solely on his movement and his hunger to get on the end of things. The element of surprise was his biggest strength, but that only lasts so long before teams begin to figure out your game. He's never really improved to counter that, unfortunately people overhyped him and he believed it.

 

[Primativ]

Actually think I might have sussed part of Dele problem. Coincidence that since Son is playing more central Dele goals have dried up ? If you look at positions from yesterday they are almost on top of each other. As Son has become more and more integral Dele has become less. View attachment 57387

He just doesn’t fit into a modern attacking system. He’s too limited and one dimensional.

 

[Primativ]

I think he's just been found out. He's never been a great technician and he has no pace whatsoever, he relied solely on his movement and his hunger to get on the end of things. The element of surprise was his biggest strength, but that only lasts so long before teams begin to figure out your game. He's never really improved to counter that, unfortunately people overhyped him and he believed it.

Spot on.

 

[cjbyid]

I think he's just been found out. He's never been a great technician and he has no pace whatsoever, he relied solely on his movement and his hunger to get on the end of things. The element of surprise was his biggest strength, but that only lasts so long before teams begin to figure out your game. He's never really improved to counter that, unfortunately people overhyped him and he believed it.

This. Can't take a player on and looks so awkward running with the ball.

 

[spursfan77]

Actually think I might have sussed part of Dele problem. Coincidence that since Son is playing more central Dele goals have dried up ? If you look at positions from yesterday they are almost on top of each other. As Son has become more and more integral Dele has become less. View attachment 57387

Maybe the manager should work out how to integrate then both in the team?

They used to play well enough together. Maybe it’s the tactics that are the problem. For me it’s easy, Son our wide on the left cutting in, Dele off Kane and getting as close as he possibly can to him. I bet we score more goals playing like that. We just need to get an industrious right back to bomb up and down the right to give us width that side.


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[Deleted member 27995]

Teams win football matches.

I think you will find Dele is the one that got caught up in the hype as once his goals and assists dried up, he has now seen for what he is which is a bang average premiership player.

He will be playing for another mid table club in two years.

Teams win football matches but Ali will be so bad he won't be good enough to be a squad player here? Even though he scores goals?

Yeah.

 

[ILS]

Teams win football matches but Ali will be so bad he won't be good enough to be a squad player here? Even though he scores goals?

Yeah.

No he will not be here because he wont want to be a squad player, just like what will happen with Dier.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

No he will not be here because he wont want to be a squad player, just like what will happen with Dier.

Cool, that'll be two english players that need replacing - winks as well no doubt ... We should probably sell them all. Useless.

 

[Gilzeanking]

I've checked and am surprised this hasn't been posted here . Serious home truths for Dele From Neville and the pundits

 

[Gassin's finest]

Thought he worked hard on Sunday tbh. If all we're asking of our players right now is to care and work for the team, then you can't fault him for that.

 

[dimiSpur]

Dele is a 2nd striker. He was at his best when our team was at it's best. That meant we had ample possession and control and created chances with flying full backs (Walker & Rose at this best), Eriksen in midfield at his creative best and the likes of Dembele and Dier/Wanyama doing the hard work to allow all the above to do their thing.

Now we have seen all the above dismantled, we are seeing that he is not as creative as Eriksen, cannot really dribble past people and cannot control a game in midfield. What that means is he's not the "Lampard" people thought he was, just because he's an Englishman scoring around 20 goals per season whilst not being an out and out striker. The fact that people miscontsrued how good he was at that time doesn't mean he's suddenly poor.

He serves a purpose in a team that's made to create chances. He's not someone that will take the game and be the one to create chances on a consistent basis. Ultimately, he was never as complete a player as some believed, and he's not suddenly a passenger just because we aren't in a position to utilise him as we were back then.

 

[Westmorlandspur]

I knew there was something wrong when he stopped doing the handshakes with Sonny!!,,,,

 

[double0]

Dele Alli has a hell of a battle on his hand changing the narrative around him even when he plays well and doesn't score he'll get criticised. The measure of Dele will be the fans at the stadium that see his movements his pressing and hard work (live and direct) Dele doesn't get credit for.

Unfortunately there are so many Seagulls that follow the trawler

 

[wrd]

I've checked and am surprised this hasn't been posted here . Serious home truths for Dele From Neville and the pundits

Thought they were speaking a lot of conjecture to be honest, talking about need to be on time for training and get his head down, there's no evidence to suggest he's ever had disciplinary problems when it comes to training and applying himself. Does he need to kick on? Absolutely, he was a better player at 21 than he is at 23 and he needs to improve but quite frankly I felt they were judging him on the way he looks and broadly assuming things off of that than working with facts. Unintentional maybe but all that talk about applying himself, bringing up his childhood, turning up to training on time. They were all making a lot of broad assumptions.

 

[double0]

Thought they were speaking a lot of conjecture to be honest, talking about need to be on time for training and get his head down, there's no evidence to suggest he's ever had disciplinary problems when it comes to training and applying himself. Does he need to kick on? Absolutely, he was a better player at 21 than he is at 23 and he needs to improve but quite frankly I felt they were judging him on the way he looks and broadly assuming things off of that than working with facts. Unintentional maybe but all that talk about applying himself, bringing up his childhood, turning up to training on time. They were all making a lot of broad assumptions.

It was streotyping in the highest order pretty disgraceful really.

I know the injury line won't wash with many people but he relies on fitness and his had 4 hamstring injuries coming back from. Dele is a mid range runner his best game is about making runs sprits finding space. He is a sensible kid as well though i wasn't impressed with him dropping his last name a lot of Nigerians weren't happy with him ( he has his reasons).

man it's going to be very tough for him changing opinions he is already penciled in for criticism regardless ... stopping the handshakes is an indication of where he's at mentally.

 

[wrd]

It was streotyping in the highest order pretty disgraceful really.

I know the injury line won't wash with many people but he relies on fitness and his had 4 hamstring injuries coming back from. Dele is a mid range runner his best game is about making runs sprits finding space. He is a sensible kid as well though i wasn't impressed with him dropping his last name a lot of Nigerians weren't happy with him ( he has his reasons).

man it's going to be very tough for him changing opinions he is already penciled in for criticism regardless ... stopping the handshakes is an indication of where he's at mentally.

Yeah they're reasons that he has struggled which I think are valid reasons but regardless he has to kick on but this was his 3rd start in a row on the comeback tour, I'll be more critical after 10 but he has to improve. I'll definitely stand his corner on the name change, he has had issues with his father and it's his right whether he wants to be associated with him or not. The Nigerian fans booed him when England played them which seemed unfair, they might have a different relationship with their culture than Dele but his is through his father and it's not for anybody other than dele to decide where that fits into his life.