Dele Alli at Everton

[Alex4487]

i still think selling dele ali will be a mistake and he will thrive somewhere else he needs to do a pogba and ride it out until mourinho goes then he will be back in the fold hes 24 ffs long career ahead i still think he adds something different but you can tell him not even being selected on the bench for epl games has affected him

 

[BringBack_leGin]

i still think selling dele ali will be a mistake and he will thrive somewhere else he needs to do a pogba and ride it out until mourinho goes then he will be back in the fold hes 24 ffs long career ahead i still think he adds something different but you can tell him not even being selected on the bench for epl games has affected him

Pogba has still been poor post Mourinho bar one spell over a season ago and the odd decent match.

It’s really not Mourinho’s fault that Dele is where he is, in fact the only really good run off form Dele has had since mid 18/19 has come under Mourinho. Dele just isn’t being allowed to get away with it anymore, he has a lot of competition for his place and it’s up to him to rise back to the top. I hope he does because he’s been one of my favourite players but if he doesn’t, it says more about him than the manager.

 

[allpaths]

I'll always support Dele, but could be best for him and the club to move on. Could be like Liverpool and selling Coutinho and using the sale to fund the dominate defender.

 

[Timberwolf]

Poch’s biggest achievement was making people think this guy was anything other than bang average

He's not bang average if you play him in his best position. Bang average players don't score 18 goals in a league season at only 20 years old.

Problem is we don't play that system anymore. Play him deeper and he's not the same player and nowhere near as effective.

 

[Alex4487]

Pogba has still been poor post Mourinho bar one spell over a season ago and the odd decent match.

It’s really not Mourinho’s fault that Dele is where he is, in fact the only really good run off form Dele has had since mid 18/19 has come under Mourinho. Dele just isn’t being allowed to get away with it anymore, he has a lot of competition for his place and it’s up to him to rise back to the top. I hope he does because he’s been one of my favourite players but if he doesn’t, it says more about him than the manager.

last year he scored some big winning goals for us and vs teams that sit back he can find pockets of space to create something also mourinho has changed formation which doesn't suit dele hence why his performances have been poor recently. i agree he needs to fight for his place and gain the managers trust again but if he aint even being allowed to come on from the bench he wont have a chance too. paying him 100k a week to not even be in the squad is ozilesque imo just keep him as a back up atleast

 

[BringBack_leGin]

last year he scored some big winning goals for us and vs teams that sit back he can find pockets of space to create something also mourinho has changed formation which doesn't suit dele hence why his performances have been poor recently. i agree he needs to fight for his place and gain the managers trust again but if he aint even being allowed to come on from the bench he wont have a chance too. paying him 100k a week to not even be in the squad is ozilesque imo just keep him as a back up atleast

On the premise that we are starting with two wide men, two solid midfielders and one creative midfielders each match (regardless of 433 v 4231), who’s place either in the side or on the bench would you have him take?

 

[Japhet]

He'll thrive in the right team imo. As many have said he just doesn't fit into our system and appears unwilling or unable to adapt. Personally I think he'd be smashing it alongside or just behind Ings at Southampton for example.

I feel for the lad, he's just lost his way for whatever reason. I hope he still has a very good career whether it's with us or someone else. It does look pretty ominous for him with us though.

You have to have 2 monster CMs to be able to afford Dele flouncing around up top behind your striker and not many teams manage to be that dominant in midfield, unless they play in a league where they're head and shoulders above the rest. I don't think Southampton have anywhere near enough in CM to accomodate Dele further forward unless he gets played as a wide forward instead of a 10.

 

[mil1lion]

We're not going to get a lot for him at the moment. I would look to loan him in Jan until the end of the season if he doesn't turn it around before then. If he comes good we can decide whether to give him another shot or cash in (hopefully with his value going up).

 

[Alex4487]

On the premise that we are starting with two wide men, two solid midfielders and one creative midfielders each match (regardless of 433 v 4231), who’s place either in the side or on the bench would you have him take?

I dont think he should start but be on the bench moura n bale aint pulling up trees on the rw can change formation in matches to get more runners in the box with ali and to be fair hojberg should be a dm not partnered with sissoko or winks ali could included along ndombele

 

[jurgen]

He'll thrive in the right team imo. As many have said he just doesn't fit into our system and appears unwilling or unable to adapt. Personally I think he'd be smashing it alongside or just behind Ings at Southampton for example.

I feel for the lad, he's just lost his way for whatever reason. I hope he still has a very good career whether it's with us or someone else. It does look pretty ominous for him with us though.

Can't see him wanting to drop down to someone like Southampton though... he's still got lots of people who rate him highly in the press etc so it's hard to see him being happy to drop too far down the league, maybe someone monied up like Everton?

 

[SpursSince1980]

He is very capable in playing in the Ndombele role and even in an attacking three behind Kane. Problem is, comes down to form, application and confidence. Two of those are hard to control. But application is easy. I don’t care if Dele misplaces a few passes and misfires a couple times in front of goal and loses control of the ball a few times, as long as he is working his ass off out there. That’s something the player has complete control over. And watching his game against Antwerp was a bit disappointing. He really did seem to be just ambling around that whole half and definitely was playing with indifference.

i still don’t agree with the mass subs on Thurs. That was a strong overreaction from Jose. I get he had every reason to be furiated at the likes of Dele and Stevie, but not the others. Even then, he could have given them, and esp Dele the hairdryer treatment, and then give them 15 mins to respond, but he just kicked their asses out.

Then again, in stadiums without fans, coaching can happen on the field, and maybe he was giving them instructions and they weren’t responding. Who knows?

fact remains, is that Dele is being a bit too precious and should try to at the very least, put in 100% committed shift.

 

[tiger666]

I'll always support Dele, but could be best for him and the club to move on. Could be like Liverpool and selling Coutinho and using the sale to fund the dominate defender.

We won't get much for him now. Needs a loan to a club that will play him up top near the striker. Get his value back up.

 

[buckley]

I think we need to sell him because if he goes on loan his value will plummet as I dont see him pulling up any trees if he plays at a loan club like he does for us . His value is high at the moment go on loan and get found out then he will struggle to get a move to a top club .
Whereas at this moment in time it looks like PSG may take a punt and we could get enough transfer cash to replace him with someone more suited to the way we play . Just to add I was looking forward to seeing him against Antwerp but he was a big let down mind you so was everybody else including Reguillon.

 

[nailsy]

Dele used to work hard for the team when we played. He'd make runs, press opponents, carry the ball, etc, so if he's not doing those things now there must be a reason for it. Is it a mental issue? Is he depressed, thinks he's too big to do that now, or doesn't understand what he's meant to be doing? Or is it a physical problem that prevents him from doing what he used to do? Trying to motivate a player back into form will only get you so far, especially if it's a physical issue.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Dele used to work hard for the team when we played. He'd make runs, press opponents, carry the ball, etc, so if he's not doing those things now there must be a reason for it. Is it a mental issue? Is he depressed, thinks he's too big to do that now, or doesn't understand what he's meant to be doing? Or is it a physical problem that prevents him from doing what he used to do? Trying to motivate a player back into form will only get you so far, especially if it's a physical issue.

Alli is and always has been an instinctive type of player who can spent 70 minutes frustrating the life out of you to then pop up with a goal out of nothing.
Mourinho is after more than this and probably views Alli has a luxury he cannot afford to consider.. i doubt Alli has the attributes required to play a bigger part in Mourinho's plans, so his future is looking bleak.

 

[PLTuck]

I'd love to know Dele's thoughts on his decline. His real thoughts, not what he says in the media. Does he take full responsibility himself or does he blame others?

We'll likely never know but it'd be very interesting.

 

[rio bryan]

i still think selling dele ali will be a mistake and he will thrive somewhere else he needs to do a pogba and ride it out until mourinho goes then he will be back in the fold hes 24 ffs long career ahead i still think he adds something different but you can tell him not even being selected on the bench for epl games has affected him

What about if Mourinho stays another 10 years ????

 

[rez9000]

Indeed, I'm fully cognizant of that, yes. What's your point?

Sorry @luRRka - did you have something to add? I'm still waiting to understand what the point being raised was?

 

[luRRka]

Sorry @luRRka - did you have something to add? I'm still waiting to understand what the point being raised was?

Scrolling on phone. Removed

 

[rez9000]

Scrolling on phone. Removed

Sorry, buddy.