Yeah but I also think people are too sensitive about this stuff. As long as it’s good old fashioned banter, why worry? Football is tribal and all about rivalries. As long as it’s all reasonable and fun, I don’t see a problem with it.
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Yeah but I also think people are too sensitive about this stuff. As long as it’s good old fashioned banter, why worry? Football is tribal and all about rivalries. As long as it’s all reasonable and fun, I don’t see a problem with it.
hughy
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FWIW Chelsea have lost 6 domestic cup finals in a row.
Let's forget about the CL title because that doesn't fit my agenda.
riggi
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Yeah for sure but it’s a bit boring.
McFlash
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Maybe I misunderstood your post then, or maybe you misunderstood mine because I wasn't suggesting there was any conspiracy.Against my better judgement, one final time and then i'll give it a rest.......
I've been aware of mind games in football for a very long time and when it was just a referee, I could see it. I could see something perhaps getting under a referee's skin even if subconsciously. But with VAR? There is no grand conspiracy. With the number of people involved in the process? Do the people peddling this filth not understand just how massive such a thing would have to be to work and work without being exposed?
With the number of complaints it is getting over bad calls just how many managers do you think they'd be bending over for? Given all that then surely anyone with an ounce of sense can see it's impossible to be anything other than each decision on it's merits, even if they do get it wrong. There'd have to be some sort of mass hypnosis at play. The suspension of belief is astonishing. It's a fucking ridiculous idea and I will stand by that and fight anyone over it, naked, covered in exotic oils with a particularly large Ostrich feather stuck up my bumhole.
I know there are very many conspiracy theorists on the firm but fucking hell.
Dodgy decisions are obviously down to inept officials, there's no devious plan behind it all, just incompetence and everything being made too intricate and complicated.
My point was more to do with the fact that manager always have and always will use these little mind games to try and gain an advantage.
I also think that the amount of people involved muddies the water even more.
Not in terms of being swayed by whatever shite a manager comes out with but because of the old "too many cooks" idea.
There are too many people trying to make what should be a simple decision.
Basically, I agree with you that there's no conspiracy and that var should get in the bin because it's ruining the game, but managers say what they do for a reason.
To get into the minds of the officials, the press and the fans.
That doesn't make it right or wrong, it's just what happens.
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It bores me to be honest.
Especially when that banter is "Spurs have no trophies" because there are people who believe that's true.
The minute something like that comes out their mouths and any football discussion with that person is done for me.
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What an absolute ****
Flashp
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He's a Liverpool fan, you can't really be surprised.
easley91
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I could ask the same thing about those with hatred and bitterness towards him? I "defend" him in the sense that he is an adult man who was out of work and thinking of location as his family are settled in the area. Does the money help? Yes. But it's a fucking job at the end of the day. Honestly it really isn't life and death is it? He didn't go there straight after Levy sacked him did he? He went to a club in between. And Levy didn't want him. So he wasn't coming back.
Some of the bitterness and anger towards ex players and managers on here and in this fanbase from some is pretty unhealthy.
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Poch was great with us and gave me some great memories as a Tottenham fan. The only thing I didn’t like about the Poch era was when he said he would leave if we won the CL as I thought it was poorly timed just before one of the biggest games in our history (even if it was a tongue in cheek comment). Once they leave I just don’t care about them, it’s the same as Kane. They don’t belong to us anymore so I couldn’t care less with what they do. Unless they join Arsenal, then I hope they don’t achieve anything in life 
I loved Poch, I really did, snd I was also wrong for wanting him reappointed instead of Postecogku. but at the end of the day,, his main reason for taking the Chelsea job, was to fuck Tottenham Hotspur and more to the point Daniel Levy over for not re-appointing him, He knows the rivalry alright, he managed us at the battle of the bridge,, he just thought,, Fuck it I’m taking that job and I’m gonna do everything I can to fuck levy over. And I hope he fails miserably in his attempts to do so
Johnny J
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This can't possibly be true. It's just a job.
bubble07
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WooooHow are flares still getting into Wembley?
Bluto Blutarsky
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Exactly. It’s a job that was offered and pays a lot of money.
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I was prettly non plussed about this game and I couldn't work out which of these clubs I wanted to lose the most, it was pretty much a dead heat in those stakes.....
Flashp
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No contest for me, Chelsea is such a vile club, even if Liverpool fans are something else.
Only time I'd ever want a Chelsea win is against Arsenal.
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Even then I would probably prefer a Chelsea defeat
DenverSpur
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Poch lost that Final more than Klopp won it.. Going into the extra time Liverpool were spent and half the team were kids. Given that Poch should have told his team to go at them right from the kick off. Instead they played with little urgency as if playing for penalties! He let Liverpool off the hook.That’s always been my complaint about Poch: he doesn’t have that killer instinct.
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DenverSpur
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Surely it’s the manager’s job to motivate them, to tell them what he wants them to do, what he expects of them. Their performance in extra time did not give the impression that Poch had motivated them enough to take the game to a tired and youthful Liverpool. The buck for that extra time performance has to stop with the manager.
