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Amnesty seriously you're joking right ?
Only one joker in this thread and it ain't me.
Amnesty seriously you're joking right ?
Amnesty seriously you're joking right ?
How exactly is selling weapons to our allies for conflict in the Middle East (ISIL, Gulf War etc.) contradictory to discussion about human rights? Is our supply of weapons to Ukraine a human rights issue too?what like selling millions pounds of weapons to these countries and then turn around and talk about human rights,
LOL !
Has taking a knee ever been a thing for remembrance Sunday?Players are political puppets nowadays, notice nobody took a knee for remembrance Sunday, speaks volumes.
Whenever someone comes out with this sort of statement, is when you can see that you'll never be able to engage in sensible discussion with them. ?LOL !
The media gave you 6,500 migrant and we'll go along with that then,
Believe the media ok !
makes me proud that our captain is prepared to stand up for a principle, rather than selling out like David 'Man of the People' Beckham!
The same captain that was looking to move to a club owned by a neighbouring country just as shit?
Maybe it is virtue signalling. He knows he can make a gesture and get away with it because nobody is arresting the England captain but he could easily have not worn it. But the whole "don't go if you care that much" argument is rubbish. You can make a statement about something you strongly object to but why should he miss out on a world cup because the corrupt organisation he is forced to play under has chosen to hold it somewhere ridiculous? It shouldn't be on the players to make that sacrifice. Doesn't mean they have to remain silent and accept everything that goes with it.Virtue signalling I'm afraid don't go if you feel that strongly about it.
An empty gesture, I can respect Peter Tachell and I can also describe him as brave for his stance, not so much multi millionaire who would happily join a club run by the people with the very same beliefs.
I can also respect a person who respects a country's religious beliefs and keeps their thoughts/feelings to themselves but I can't respect someone who tries to straddle both.
it's hypocrisy otherwise i understand that as captain he's seen as spokesman for the whole team/country I don't necessarily think he's a hypocrite just comes over that way, again unfortunately.
Just my opinion I'm sure he won't lose any sleep over it, he's the one who has to look at himself in the mirror though.
I stand by what I said, if you think that is rubbish or whatever that's fine, I respect your opinionMaybe it is virtue signalling. He knows he can make a gesture and get away with it because nobody is arresting the England captain but he could easily have not worn it. But the whole "don't go if you care that much" argument is rubbish. You can make a statement about something you strongly object to but why should he miss out on a world cup because the corrupt organisation he is forced to play under has chosen to hold it somewhere ridiculous? It shouldn't be on the players to make that sacrifice. Doesn't mean they have to remain silent and accept everything that goes with it.
Maybe it is virtue signalling. He knows he can make a gesture and get away with it because nobody is arresting the England captain but he could easily have not worn it. But the whole "don't go if you care that much" argument is rubbish. You can make a statement about something you strongly object to but why should he miss out on a world cup because the corrupt organisation he is forced to play under has chosen to hold it somewhere ridiculous? It shouldn't be on the players to make that sacrifice. Doesn't mean they have to remain silent and accept everything that goes with it.
Well, the FA don't sell weapons. I can't see the issue in highlighting an issue like that.what like selling millions pounds of weapons to these countries and then turn around and talk about human rights,
LOL !
As indeed we all do.Virtue signalling I'm afraid don't go if you feel that strongly about it.
An empty gesture, I can respect Peter Tachell and I can also describe him as brave for his stance, not so much multi millionaire who would happily join a club run by the people with the very same beliefs.
I can also respect a person who respects a country's religious beliefs and keeps their thoughts/feelings to themselves but I can't respect someone who tries to straddle both.
it's hypocrisy otherwise i understand that as captain he's seen as spokesman for the whole team/country I don't necessarily think he's a hypocrite just comes over that way, again unfortunately.
Just my opinion I'm sure he won't lose any sleep over it, he's the one who has to look at himself in the mirror though.
Well, the FA don't sell weapons. I can't see the issue in highlighting an issue like that.