ENIC...

[DiVaio]

Believe what you want. I'm sure Poch didn't want to sell a single player either. I blame Levy 80% for that Summer.

I’m sure Poch didnt want to sell a single player as he couldnt sign replacement because he didnt want them.

 

[dtxspurs]

I’m sure Poch didnt want to sell a single player as he couldnt sign replacement because he didnt want them.

Yeah, I'm sure Poch wanted to keep around Nkoudou & Janssen (whom he didn't even grant a squad number).

And Poch's demands changed so much that there wasn't a single player he was happy with? It was Grealish & De Jong or bust... The same guy who wanted Juan Foyth the summer before and then Grealish a player from the championship.... He wouldn't be happy with anyone else?

You realize that story makes zero sense. That's not remotely believable.

 

[hellava_tough]

I'm not bumping this thread to say ENIC out; that would be pointless, because unless someone ponies up a few billion, they're not going anyway.

And in any case, I think they've done a pretty decent job in the round.

However, ENIC (Levy et al) need to seriously rethink how the club is going to be run going forward.

We've come to the end of a 20 year development process, which has been very good, tbf. We're in a much better place on and off the pitch from when they took over.

But with Mourinho, their 'trophy manager', on the verge of being sacked, I think it may be time for the senior management to take stock of the situation.

Certainly Coronavirus Virus hasn't helped, but football hasn't stopped and we just have to get on with it.

They have to address the following things; club philosophy, club and player mentality, recruitment, DoF and the new manager.

We've tried a lot of different approaches over the last 20 years and overall it's not been bad (albeit a bit haphazard).

But now we have to plan for the next 20 years at the most elite heights of the sport. How are we going to compete with the giants of the game; it's over to you Levy.

 

[Real_madyidd]

I'm not bumping this thread to say ENIC out; that would be pointless, because unless someone ponies up a few billion, they're not going anyway.

And in any case, I think they've done a pretty decent job in the round.

However, ENIC (Levy et al) need to seriously rethink how the club is going to be run going forward.

We've come to the end of a 20 year development process, which has been very good, tbf. We're in a much better place on and off the pitch from when they took over.

But with Mourinho, their 'trophy manager', on the verge of being sacked, I think it may be time for the senior management to take stock of the situation.

Certainly Coronavirus Virus hasn't helped, but football hasn't stopped and we just have to get on with it.

They have to address the following things; club philosophy, club and player mentality, recruitment, DoF and the new manager.

We've tried a lot of different approaches over the last 20 years and overall it's not been bad (albeit a bit haphazard).

But now we have to plan for the next 20 years at the most elite heights of the sport. How are we going to compete with the giants of the game; it's over to you Levy.

I think levy has done d great job overall with the club. The progress on the pitch hasn't been as good as the progress off it, but generally the trend has been upward.

I also think he was right to show the world that we have ambitions by getting one of the best managers in the world in. However, I agree with you that the club needs a footballing culture that we are known for: being flashy bastards. What I was hoping for with Jose was keeping some (any, please!) flair and adding shit housing, so we actually win something. Sadly, no flair, not as much shit housing as i would find funny.

 

[hellava_tough]

I think levy has done d great job overall with the club. The progress on the pitch hasn't been as good as the progress off it, but generally the trend has been upward.

I also think he was right to show the world that we have ambitions by getting one of the best managers in the world in. However, I agree with you that the club needs a footballing culture that we are known for: being flashy bastards. What I was hoping for with Jose was keeping some (any, please!) flair and adding shit housing, so we actually win something. Sadly, no flair, not as much shit housing as i.eould find funny.

Others know more about Spanish football than I do, but I get the impression that Simeone is the Mourinho for the 21st century. A bit of flair and a lot of gamesmanship.

 

[McArchibald]

Our club is too much about business and not enough about football. There is no Director of Football to oversee and implement any long term plan and there is not much football know-how in the boardroom. We had Trevor Birch come in and leave again within 4 months. We have Pleat doing something somewhere. We've even had serious investment in the squad over the last 18 months, but sadly to little avail, because our scouting apparatus is suspect to say the least...
Where is the direction? What is the plan? As ENIC will be here for a good while longer, a rethink of the whole operation seems a necessity.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Our club is too much about business and not enough about football. There is no Director of Football to oversee and implement any long term plan and there is not much football know-how in the boardroom. We had Trevor Birch come in and leave again within 4 months. We have Pleat doing something somewhere. We've even had serious investment in the squad over the last 18 months, but sadly to little avail, because our scouting apparatus is suspect to say the least...
Where is the direction? What is the plan? As ENIC will be here for a good while longer, a rethink of the whole operation seems a necessity.

the club is an investment to them so what they think is just how to boost the value of the club

 

[McArchibald]

the club is an investment to them so what they think is just how to boost the value of the club

Don't disagree. But at present, the club is drifting and its value must be on the slide as well. We've lost the CL revenue stream for the foreseeable future. And of course the Covid-19 pandemic has thrown a massive, massive spanner in the works. ENIC could only sell at a discount now, something they won't do.
So they will have to devote attention and resources to rebuilding the football side of the house - whether they want to or not.

 

[dontcallme]

the club is an investment to them so what they think is just how to boost the value of the club

But we have seen in the past that we can run the club well and succeed within budget. Getting CL football and being successful on the pitch is good for profits.

 

[dontcallme]

Don't disagree. But at present, the club is drifting and its value must be on the slide as well. We've lost the CL revenue stream for the foreseeable future. And of course the Covid-19 pandemic has thrown a massive, massive spanner in the works. ENIC could only sell at a discount now, something they won't do.
So they will have to devote attention and resources to rebuilding the football side of the house - whether they want to or not.

TBH I think just getting the right buying structure in place will help a lot.

We don't necessarily need to spend huge.

 

[dovahkiin]

anyone on coys? @Bubble44 ?
apparently dragon1 has posted something interesting about takeover/investment ? or is it all made up?

 

[yankspurs]

anyone on coys? @Bubble44 ?
apparently dragon1 has posted something interesting about takeover/investment ? or is it all made up?

Please oh please let there be a takeover. Please god. Give me just one piece of optimism in this endless torture chamber my sports teams have in. I beg.

 

[nigespurs]

anyone on coys? @Bubble44 ?
apparently dragon1 has posted something interesting about takeover/investment ? or is it all made up?

Dragon posted nothing since Monday when he mentioned about getting crowds back into the stadium next season.

 

[yido_number1]

Please oh please let there be a takeover. Please god. Give me just one piece of optimism in this endless torture chamber my sports teams have in. I beg.

No way enic sells when our price would be depressed.

 

[sausage]

Please oh please let there be a takeover. Please god. Give me just one piece of optimism in this endless torture chamber my sports teams have in. I beg.

You seem to only allow the concept of a better outcome, when in reality we could be a lot worse off.

Worst thing would be to end up owned by an American sports investor, or some unscrupulous consortium

 

[shelfboy68]

You seem to only allow the concept of a better outcome, when in reality we could be a lot worse off.

Worst thing would be to end up owned by an American sports investor, or some unscrupulous consortium

Whilst sometimes it's a case of better the devil you know can apply, there is always the chance that the situation at spurs could improve under new ownership.
After all man city and Chelsea haven't done too bad since their new owners have taken control, certainly it's doubtful they would need to be replaced serving up success on a regular basis.

 

[dovahkiin]

Dragon posted nothing since Monday when he mentioned about getting crowds back into the stadium next season.

allright then it was probably that fake (?) dragon on twitter then, nevermind

 

[sausage]

Whilst sometimes it's a case of better the devil you know can apply, there is always the chance that the situation at spurs could improve under new ownership.
After all man city and Chelsea haven't done too bad since their new owners have taken control, certainly it's doubtful they would need to be replaced serving up success on a regular basis.

The first new owner City had was a corrupt businessman and it still took around 4 years and half a billion to get them going. Bearing in mind that they still exist, so it's not like it's repeatable (because they're still at it).

Bear in mind that City don't own their own stadium, and Chelsea are still stuck in an old one, so all your doing is judging them on their yo-yo seasons where one minute they're winning it, the next they're struggling.

Everton show that you can't repeat what they have done so easily, because they still exist. It's like expecting Walker's Blackburn to be able to buy the title again.

 

[shelfboy68]

The first new owner City had was a corrupt businessman and it still took around 4 years and half a billion to get them going. Bearing in mind that they still exist, so it's not like it's repeatable (because they're still at it).

Bear in mind that City don't own their own stadium, and Chelsea are still stuck in an old one, so all your doing is judging them on their yo-yo seasons where one minute they're winning it, the next they're struggling.

Everton show that you can't repeat what they have done so easily, because they still exist. It's like expecting Walker's Blackburn to be able to buy the title again.

Not at all I'm referring to both the current owners I never mentioned previous ones you did that yourself.
Since both the current owners have been in control they barely go a season or two without winning anything, who cares about whether a stadium is not owned by city I'm sure if they want it they could probably get it.
Both these clubs have success that we can only dream about, compared with stuttering amounts at moderate success of reaching top four or the occasional final.

 

[spursfan77]

allright then it was probably that fake (?) dragon on twitter then, nevermind

Fake dragon? Fuck me, some people are weird aren’t they.