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[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Was also pretty clear that Jose wasn't a long term manager. The loan's fine, the clause was stupid.

Lol this place is nuts. You have people screaming that Levy should lower his prices to get rid of ‘deadwood’. Then he does this and gets called ‘stupid’ ???

 

[Saoirse]

Lol this place is nuts. You have people screaming that Levy should lower his prices to get rid of ‘deadwood’. Then he does this and gets called ‘stupid’ ???

It's almost as if we're not a hivemind, and different people have different ideas on who the deadwood is? I genuinely think Foyth was our best right-back.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

It's almost as if we're not a hivemind, and different people have different ideas on who the deadwood is? I genuinely think Foyth was our best right-back.

Fair enough. Jose obviously didn’t agree and couldn’t wait to get rid. Considering how stretched for cash we were last summer Levy had to take the best deal he could or risk losing Foyth for free this summer (we made him sign a new deal before he went on loan).

 

[HodisGawd]

Lol this place is nuts. You have people screaming that Levy should lower his prices to get rid of ‘deadwood’. Then he does this and gets called ‘stupid’ ???

The same people haranguing Levy for not getting rid of the "deadwood" were also the people haranguing Levy previously for allegedly not paying players enough and allegedly being penny-pinching in that regard. I never understood that stupid argument that footballers should be paid more in the first place. No fan should be arguing that if they simultaneously complain about season ticket prices being high. The end result for us though is it no wonder players like Rose have been tough to move on in the past and players like Dier will be this summer?

I can see us returning next season largely with the same squad not because of Levy's failings but because the market will simply be dead this summer with no-one wanting to make big financial commitments due to Covid uncertainty. We used to offload players to the West Hams of this world who were overjoyed to get our cast-offs, but these teams won't be able to afford players on big wages in the same way. I expect them to look for value in the lower divisions rather than try to buy from the top clubs.

While I'm sure we could release some of the players we all want to leave on a free we'd still have to either pay a portion of their wages or pay them off. Doing that would understandably be galling for Levy, terrible business and more importantly it would curtail our ability to get new players in.

We are caught between a rock and a hard place right now, as are many other clubs. That's not Levy's or anyone else's fault, it is just the market. In this circumstance, this Fonseca guy - however unfashionable - sounds like a shrewd move because it very much looks like we are going to have to cut our cloth accordingly.

 

[yankspurs]

I think Levy has well and truely messed-up with then naming rights.

I don’t think we will see naming rights for some time unless it’s a massive company like Amazon, Google or some one like Ineos who seem to be doing well at the moment. To be honest surely if it was going to be one of those massive companies previously mentioned then it would have happened by now. Given the last 12/18 months I can’t see companies spending loads of money on the naming rights for a stadium.

Also can’t hide from the fact with apparent money is demanding for naming rights companies are going to oook at the club and probably think in its current state it isn’t worth it To attach there name to our club at the moment.

He definitely did because he priced it out of the market. He’s an idiot who actually costs the club money. He keeps proving himself to be entirely out of his depth on off the pitch matters & on the pitch matters. Good businessman? More like a terrible one.

 

[JacoZA]

As with all things, the loudest voices seem to be the extremes - the ENIC out crowd on one side and the BSODL on the other. I’m sure there’s a large middle ground though. Or maybe not?

Perhaps we could have a poll? Option A: Levy is the worst. Option B: Levy is pretty good actually. Option C: we could do worse than Daniel, but we could also do better than Daniel.

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

I think Levy has well and truely messed-up with then naming rights.

I don’t think we will see naming rights for some time unless it’s a massive company like Amazon, Google or some one like Ineos who seem to be doing well at the moment. To be honest surely if it was going to be one of those massive companies previously mentioned then it would have happened by now. Given the last 12/18 months I can’t see companies spending loads of money on the naming rights for a stadium.

Also can’t hide from the fact with apparent money is demanding for naming rights companies are going to oook at the club and probably think in its current state it isn’t worth it To attach there name to our club at the moment.

Again though similar to when we are off loading players we always want a high price when it suits, however when the club are required to pay out it's a fiver down and the rest paid in luncheon vouchers it's so small time.

He definitely did because he priced it out of the market. He’s an idiot who actually costs the club money. He keeps proving himself to be entirely out of his depth on off the pitch matters & on the pitch matters. Good businessman? More like a terrible one.

Seems that you fellas haven't looked in the naming rights thread recently. The following was posted yesterday:

Happy to disclose my source to the mods for this, but have it on good authority there was a naming rights deal 99% done pre-pandemic, although I don't know the company. And the terms being discussed were groundbreaking, higher than some of the numbers reported in the press.

Unfortunately for Spurs, it was terrible optics for a company to sign a naming rights deal when millions were losing their jobs, so the deal collapsed due to COVID. So maybe that deal is revived, and the one being referenced here.

Did you hear how much it would've been per year?

Upwards of 25m

Whatever else you can blame Levy for - and it is plenty, granted - you can't blame him for COVID and the catastrophic effect it has had on business. £25m would have been the biggest ever annual stadium sponsorship.

 

[shelfboy68]

Seems that you fellas haven't looked in the naming rights thread recently. The following was posted yesterday:







Whatever else you can blame Levy for - and it is plenty, granted - you can't blame him for COVID and the catastrophic effect it has had on business. £25m would have been the biggest ever annual stadium sponsorship.

What was the length of the deal 20-25 years?

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

What was the length of the deal 20-25 years?

No idea. SandroClegane might know. Doubt it would be more than 20 years, though.

 

[shelfboy68]

No idea. SandroClegane might know. Doubt it would be more than 20 years, though.

I would have thought they would want someone to effectively pay off the stadium

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

I would have thought they would want someone to effectively pay off the stadium

I'm sure they'd love to but it's highly unlikely!

Biggest ever naming rights deal as it stands is for Scotiabank Arena in Toronto - home to the Maple Leafs and Raptors - for £464m (at current exchange rate between sterling and the Canadian dollar). It's a 20 year deal - so c. £23m per annum. If we had got (might still get) £25m, then that would have been a record deal, per annum.

 

[sausage]

The irony of it all is not untrue though.

(moving this here)

There isn't an irony. If someone didn't understand anything about business or economics then maybe, but otherwise no.

Why would there be a corroboration between the total wages of a business and the wage of the CEO/Chair/Directors?

A CEO/Chair usually has the remit of being good at their job - none of those measures involve high staff costs. There would only be an irony if the pay of the CEO/Chairs was the inverse of the business performance.

If you look at the table of PL profits, the weirdest one is Steve Parish, who is something like the 3rd highest paid (very near to DL) but the club is far from the most profitable. Otherwise, there's generally a pattern there.

Paying shite players lots of money does not make a well run club. As most people seem to believe we have lots of shite players, it follows that we don't have the highest wage bill. Furthermore, the lack of reliance on ticket sales for wages has proven to be a sensible model.

 

[dovahkiin]

 

[VancouverSpur]

Levy must feel at least a little pressure if he felt it was necessary to put that out.

The negative I took from that interview was that we are skint and Kane will be sold if someone offers the right amount of money.

The positives prob that Son signs a new contract as they featured him.

 

[kieranfitchett]

State of that interview. Jesus

 

[riggi]

Looks tired.

 

[chelmyid]

Looks tired.

Jet lagged!

 

[SandroClegane]

No idea. SandroClegane might know. Doubt it would be more than 20 years, though.

Heard Spurs were firm on their valuation from the beginning, and a company was about to take the plunge. 25m+ for 20 years.

 

[bubble07]

He was giving the impression he has been desperate to spend but the managers didn't want it....

 

[SandroClegane]

I'm sure people are going to jump all over this with the typical "PR spin/pure BS/He told us nothing" but when have we ever seen him do this? People want more transparency, he gives some. If Paratici has full control, as he says, that's a major win for the club.