Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[13VanDerBale13]

This is going to happen exactly same as poch-Jose reign.

Conte gone in the evening and poch will be rocking up in the morning

Yep & then Poch won’t get backed properly & we’ll be moaning again at the likes of Dier & Lloris.

The appointment of Conte made people forget about ‘DNA’ fiasco (which he clearly doesn’t fit also)

The appointment of Poch, will also overshadow another monumental fuck up, of failing to back Conte properly.

Never ending cycle which ends the same way.

 

[Martinhotspur]

Clearly everyone has forgotten January - November in Poch’s last season. The football was even worse than it is now. We were atrocious and the CL Arun papered over the cracks.

Well at least he had a few good seasons before it went tits up.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Why did they hire conte if they were never going to back him?
Unless it’s to look good to the supporters

maybe they thought he'd be betterr at his job, much like when they signed Ndombs?

 

[agrdavidsfan]

That's two, why not list the absolute failures as well? You could just do the ones that start with an N and they'd outnumber the absolute success stories.

N’dombele
N’koudou
N’jie
N’lo Celso
Nent Janssen

 

[Dazzazzad]

Clearly everyone has forgotten January - November in Poch’s last season. The football was even worse than it is now. We were atrocious and the CL run papered over the cracks.

It was but a) we did have that incredible run in the CL, b) the team had stagnated due to the new stadium build and c) it came on the back of several fantastic years.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

It’s simple if we are backing him do it, if we ain’t just get rid now I can’t be bothered doing the okicoki.

Either get him out now, then we know the club ain’t investing and get Poch back so we can just enjoy playing football and know he will work with the project players

 

[septicsac]

N’dombele
N’koudou
N’jie
N’lo Celso
Nent Janssen

Nlevy njoke

 

[Adam456]

There are a lot of points here I think on both/several sides of the debate:

1. We always seem to have, let's call it, an 'internal comms' situation where we allow whispers and rumours to undermine our managers (for example recalling the story about Tim S apparently slagging off AVB constantly in front of Levy). The more successful clubs seem to have more of a get behind the manager attitude

2. It may not be helpful that everybody knows Levy and Poch are still in regular contact and are good mates and that Poch is 'available'

3. Conté is not necessarily helping himself by stalling on signing up - this creates uncertainty in the dressing room

4. Conté is not helping himself by directly or indirectly saying his players aren't good enough

5. Perhaps Levy is not following through on promises. Or after what he has seen he is also now wondering how far he should back Conté

6. Levy should step away from the football (and may have for all we know - I don't recall the ITKS saying that Levy is actually sticking his oar in other than approving a budget)

7. Conté seems to think that he is the only manager who should not have to win games with what he has and adapt his system as necessary

8. The football is so negative that players are not comfortable on the ball. He usually refuses to change anything until the games is lost. He's not improving his options by refusing to give minutes to players he doesn't think are top notch. Then when we have an injury or two the players who step in are virtually debutantes. Playing so negatively and without possession also puts pressure on the defence. One of the reasons our defence was so good under Poch is because we had the ball so much

10. A lot of fans, me included, find it really hard to get behind negative football and it will be that much harder for a manager to succeed doing that. We look back fondly on and seemed to have most success with the good football under Jol, Redknapp, Poch but detest the periods under George Graham, Ramos, AVB, Mourinho, Nuno etc.


To summarise - it is broke and there are a number of possible causes - but though I've said keep and back AC before... this game was the straw that broke the camel's back. We need to make a change now before we throw the season away

The script says lose another 6-12 points, miss the transfer window and maybe even go, say 2-0, down the in the first leg of the CL and then fire him

...but really hoping we bite the bullet

 

[spark7586]

Rumours, and they are only rumours is that he will walk this week if not given assurances.

My opinion is that Levy has his cheap out so will just let it happen.

Great stuff. We had a chance to buy some players to work with one of the top coaches in the world and have blown it yet again. Levy needs to stay out of matters or leave as it isn’t working. He got lucky with Poch but if Conte goes I have no idea who would come. Such a shame if a Conte goes as that will mean bye, bye Kane.

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

It’s a joke, A JOKE that Poch is now Levy’s plan B. A manager is potentially leaving because he hasn’t been backed, is being replaced by an previous manager that Levy famously didn’t back and then famously sacked. It just doesn’t make sense that Levy is still in charge of these decisions, he is a joke.

 

[SpursSince1980]

I believe he will resign this week. And Levy will happily let him go. Danny doesn’t care about ‘who dares wins’. He’s all about ‘who is frugal win sometimes’.

As for poor Conte, I also can’t imagine his squad enjoy the lack of belief he has in them. They look effing miserable at the moment. And yes, that is much to do with playing like cack. But always hearing from the coach how bang average you all are, doesn’t exactly scream “Once more into the breach”, does it?

 

[tony0379]

"unfinished business"

 

[delawarespur]

Even Pep at city doesn't get "unequivocal backing".

Surely given he's one of the highest paid managers in the world he should be first maximizing the squad he has and then it's up to Levy and FP to get him the players to keep raising the ceiling.

This team is nowhere near being maximized. They are underperforming massively.

The last few months of the season - that was him getting maximum from the team. Granted, injuries aren't helping this season but I'd argue he's living up to his end of the partnership a lot less than Levy is.

Only the past week been outside top 4. Wouldn’t say that’s underperforming massively. Not saying I enjoyed the football today, but with the players he had available today, there was a reason, not an excuse, for that performance. During Poch’s last days, Nuno, Jose, we were barely in the top half/outside of it. We could easily string together a few results and be looking good again (as unlikely as it might look currently).

 

[G Ron]

Well at least he had a few good seasons before it went tits up.

Well it wasn’t all rosey in his first season if my memory serves me correctly so it’s a good job we didn’t pull the trigger on him then.

people seem to be forgetting the free flowing attacking football we played at the back end of last season away at Leeds, Norwich, Villa, Leicester, and home to the scum, etc.

Let’s give this guy time and backing and assess then. I keep saying it but the squad really is poor and Conte knows that. He probably only trusts 7/8 of the current crop and I’m with him on that.

 

[IamSpurtacus]

Even Pep at city doesn't get "unequivocal backing".

They literally hired the two former Barca execs Pep worked under to build a structure from youth through senior squad to make Pep's arrival as smooth and as inevitable as possible

They spent 200M after his first season rebuilding their defence, continue to invest in top tier players, and have two "first team" players of proven PL quality in every position

Pretty "unequivocal" to me

 

[thebenjamin]

Buzzing for Poch to come back so we can spend a season giving Winks, ndombele lo celso etc a clean slate

 

[agrdavidsfan]

I believe he will resign this week. And Levy will happily let him go. Danny doesn’t care about ‘who dares wins’. He’s all about ‘who is frugal win sometimes’.

As for poor Conte, I also can’t imagine his squad enjoy the lack of belief he has in them. They look effing miserable at the moment. And yes, that is much to do with playing like cack. But always hearing from the coach how bang average you all are, doesn’t exactly scream “Once more into the breach”, does it?

The problem is though in modern football you can’t just have one system you have to be able to change it up and conte for some reason thinks he’s above changing formations or style.
Normal managers would say well okay this ain’t working let’s try 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 and see how we look we must be so easy to prepare to play against

 

[walworthyid]

Rumours, and they are only rumours is that he will walk this week if not given assurances.

My opinion is that Levy has his cheap out so will just let it happen.

Should he be given assurances? He is an employee of our great club. Has he given us any assurances that the unacceptably negative and turgid football will stop if he gets player x? From where I'm standing the team is underperforming and so you would think that he would perhaps ne in a better bargaining position if he was getting them performing above their weight?

 

[cjbyid]

Buzzing for Poch to come back so we can spend a season giving Winks, ndombele lo celso etc a clean slate

If I see winks in our starting 11 again I'll cry.

 

[FinnYid]

We've been rather shite all the season, but Gianni Vio got us to score from set pieces (we still lead PL on that front) that got us points early on. Just wondering where we would be at the table if not for appointing Vio?