Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[Clockspur]

be a dam site better than watching the drivel Conte is turning out week after week - we have never felt further away from success over the last ten years than what we have at the moment

Keep giving Dan Levy your money mate, I’m sure he fancies a new Bentley or holiday home.

 

[PeeEyeEmPee]

I’d hate to see us try and play more open and expansive at the moment - our defence can’t cope with full on backs to the wall defending, imagine if they have to push up a bit - poor Ben Davies would shat himself

I don't understand this logic at all

 

[Clockspur]

They may have been his targets but it’s hard to sign them when they don’t want to come.

The only one we have any knowledge of not wanting to come is Bastoni.

Im certain we could have lured some decent defenders this summer but it would have cost a lot. Fundamentally that’s what this all comes down to - would Levy have paid £70m for VVD like the Scousers did? I know the answer. At some point to win things you have to be brave and back the manager with a signing like that, it makes all the difference in the world.

 

[Clockspur]

It's like we have a nice living room but a shit kitchen where you have to wash your clothes in the sink

We have a nice house but no toilet, so we just keep shatting out the window into our own yard.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Yep. All that

When Jose was winning everything at Chelsea, he didn’t bother try turning Salomon Kalou into a world class talent - he just bought a better player and let Kalou play when he was absolutely desperate.

Thats is the type of manager Conte is - I thought everyone knew that prior to his arrival.

Every now and then he can see something others have missed in a player - Moses for example. But what he does is design incredible footballing systems, get the right players for the system and then tinker with the tactics accordingly - this leads to winning multiple titles.

All Poch has won despite his brilliant coaching is trophies in the most one sided league in world football with the 2 best players on the planet - neither of which he had to coach at all

Poch's team played some great football a whole season at home undefeated tore apart some good sides and got us to a European Cup Final wow I will happilly take that again

 

[St José Dominguez]

It's not an exaggeration. He has won the league at Juve, Chelsea and Inter by having the best squads in the league. That isn't going to be the case here, so can that philosophy still work? It clearly isn't working now, so why not try something different until you have some closer to an ideal squad?

He didn’t and he definitely shouldn’t change how he wants his side to play, no manager should or does. And no I don’t think his philosophy can work here because he needs too many signings here and our owners will not spend what is required to get those players. That goes for whoever replaces him too. The Poch starting 11 was a complete fluke, the minute it started falling apart and needing replacing he was let down like all our managers are and it went to pot and he got sacked.

 

[PeeEyeEmPee]

The only one we have any knowledge of not wanting to come is Bastoni.

Im certain we could have lured some decent defenders this summer but it would have cost a lot. Fundamentally that’s what this all comes down to - would Levy have paid £70m for VVD like the Scousers did? I know the answer. At some point to win things you have to be brave and back the manager with a signing like that, it makes all the difference in the world.

We brought in a decent defender in Lenglet

 

[PeeEyeEmPee]

He didn’t and he definitely shouldn’t change how he wants his side to play, no manager should or does. And no I don’t think his philosophy can work here because he needs too many signings here and our owners will not spend what is required to get those players. That goes for whoever replaces him too. The Poch starting 11 was a complete fluke, the minute it started falling apart and needing replacing he was let down like all our managers are and it went to pot and he got sacked.

Well yes, if it's not working, then a manager absolutely should try something different. I'd LOVE for my wife to fuck me like a prostitute, but I realised a long time ago it wasn't going to happen. So i stopped treating her like one, even though that approach had been successful elsewhere.

 

[St José Dominguez]

We have a nice house but no toilet, so we just keep shatting out the window into our own yard.

More positive than me. I feel like it’s like having a toilet but no house and the neighbours are all staring at me.

 

[Clockspur]

It's not an exaggeration. He has won the league at Juve, Chelsea and Inter by having the best squads in the league. That isn't going to be the case here, so can that philosophy still work? It clearly isn't working now, so why not try something different until you have some closer to an ideal squad?

The squad he inherited at Chelsea had just finished 10th. The Inter squad was not the best squad when took over.

What those sides did so well when he took over is one thing - they spent money, where it was needed, when it was needed.

That Chelsea squad wasn’t a patch on City’s. They had Diego Costa up front who was decent, but Spurs had Kane and Son.

That Chelsea side was more than the sum of its parts - but crucially they had round pegs for round holes that fit Conte’s system.

You cant turd polish our squad

 

[St José Dominguez]

Well yes, if it's not working, then a manager absolutely should try something different. I'd LOVE for my wife to fuck me like a prostitute, but I realised a long time ago it wasn't going to happen. So i stopped treating her like one, even though that approach had been successful elsewhere.

People used to moan about Poch needing a plan B after the WHL years when Levy didn’t give him the players he needed too.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Keep giving Dan Levy your money mate, I’m sure he fancies a new Bentley or holiday home.

I have no trouble doing that been doing it for 40 odd years seen good and bad but the manager is not a Tottenham man - the football is dour you get away with it when you win but when you are losing the crowd won't put up with it

Think back to when you last heard 'Antonio Antonio' not for a good few months - look forward to seeing some aggression and a Spurs team that doesn't try to bore the crowd into submission I have rarely heard a Spurs crowd as quite as today

 

[gibbospurs]

£60m on a prem proven striker. We barely play him unless forced to buy injury and when we do, it's out of position.

Conte's too stubborn to work within the confines set by Levy.

(and I think Richy was a superb signing)

And drop Kulu to nudge him into the lineup. And persist with Sonny.

 

[Clockspur]

Poch's team played some great football a whole season at home undefeated tore apart some good sides and got us to a European Cup Final wow I will happilly take that again

Won nowt, played Son at Left back in a cup semi final after facing out with Kyle Walker, played a half fit (feeling generous) Kane in said CL final at the expense of a red hot Lucas.

Couldn’t get a tune out of Soldado, Fazio, Janssen, Chadli despite being a great coach of players.

Told the world he would leave Spurs if we won the CL. Constantly flirted with bothe the United and Madrid jobs.

Never ever bought a faaacking back up player for Eriksen.

We will be tearing our hair out again if he comes back, gets us to the business end and then starts in centre mid the modern day equivalents of Winks and Sissoko - in a faaacking CL final, Winks and Sissoko

 

[rossdapep]

be a dam site better than watching the drivel Conte is turning out week after week - we have never felt further away from success over the last ten years than what we have at the moment

Under Nuno?

 

[Clockspur]

We brought in a decent defender in Lenglet

On loan with no purchase agreement - massive commitment from Spurs there.

Bringing one decent Defender in this summer was like Everton trying to fix their lack of goals by signing Maupay and Mc Neill

 

[PeeEyeEmPee]

The squad he inherited at Chelsea had just finished 10th. The Inter squad was not the best squad when took over.

What those sides did so well when he took over is one thing - they spent money, where it was needed, when it was needed.

That Chelsea squad wasn’t a patch on City’s. They had Diego Costa up front who was decent, but Spurs had Kane and Son.

That Chelsea side was more than the sum of its parts - but crucially they had round pegs for round holes that fit Conte’s system.

You cant turd polish our squad

That Chelsea team had also just won the league before the Leicester season, when Mourinho executed his whole scorched-earth policy. They brought in Kante and Alonso that season. Very important signings, yes, but they had a title-winning core already. City's squad was probably better, but that was also Pep's first year here.

At Inter, they definitely had the best squad the year they won it. And they spent a lot to get it. That's never going to be us

 

[alpha]

I've been supremely patient with ENIC and Levy for 20 years, but I've finally had it.

Conte is right.

Our squad is disjointed and not up to it, and many of our fans have false expectations because we had a good run in one competition last season playing one game a week with no injuries.

We got left behind in the summer, and failed to prepare a squad able to handle the demands of this season. 3 windows under Conte and we FAILED to sign a starting RWB, decent ball playing CBs, and a passing midfielder.

Most of our very best XI wouldn't get in any other Top 6 team. Throw in any injuries and we're terrible.

I tell you now Levy's people will be monitoring social media tonight and rubbing their hands - knowing they've got away with it again.

The fans love the soap opera, and will blame the manager. Poch, Mourinho, whoever that other Jorge Mendes cast off was, and now Conte.

Who next? Which paragon of virtue is going to turn Dier, Sanchez, Davies, Doherty, Emerson, Sessegnon, Hojbjerg, and Moura into the world beaters they've never been before?

We're allowing Levy to follow his modus operandi which is to meddle and hang onto players so long that our squad becomes bloated so we can't rebuild, the team fails, replace the manger again, rinse and repeat.

"Winks was worth £40min 2016! Let's send him on loan again! Oh we can't buy a CM we've got too many on loan!" Same rubbish with Wanyama. Same with Sanchez. On and on.

We sold a £50m Right Back and replaced him with several £20m right backs, one we paid to leave for nothing. We've now spent £65m on Right Backs over 5 years and only made the position weaker. Ridiculous. We'll now pass on Porro because we can't shift Emerson. You watch.

What Levy has done to this team since the peak Poch team with his meddling is criminal.

He's a paper billionaire with most of his net worth tied up in the clubs shares, and acts accordingly. The moment we get anywhere he'll take it as a cue to meddle and put his foot on the brakes, rather than cut losses on dead wood so we can push forwards.

The opportunity cost now to the club in missing out on a generation of new fans, and all the exposure and commercial revenue that comes with it is astronomical.

He built us a nice space ship Westfield, but he isn't competent at the job that needs doing now. If Levy worked for Levy he'd have sacked him long ago.

You can change the manager 100 times, it won't matter. We'll never get anywhere with him in charge.

Conte will go and win trophies with a serious football club, and we'll be a mid table investment vehicle.

This post must have the one of highest amount of ‘winner’ creds!

 

[PeeEyeEmPee]

On loan with no purchase agreement - massive commitment from Spurs there.

Bringing one decent Defender in this summer was like Everton trying to fix their lack of goals by signing Maupay and Mc Neill

Does he play differently because he's a loan signing rather than a permanent one?

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Under Nuno?

frankly today perfomance made Nuno's 1-0 home wins look like Real Madrid