Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[FinnYid]

Levy want's to have the pressure valve of sacking a manager AGAIN as a scape goat and to not be held accountable.

He is accountable, of course he is. He made the blatant wrong choice of appointment to begin with. Sacking the manager doesn't absolve Levy of anything, it underlines his mistake.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Ok so we sack and then get a new manager and he fails and the one after that and the one after that and the one after that, none of them properly backed.

Then what?

How about a player/manager - Not sure ENIC have tried that

Worth a shot

 

[For the love of Spurs]

How about a player/manager - Not sure ENIC have tried that

Worth a shot

should just let Levy manage, then finally he can sack himself.

 

[YB123]

He is accountable, of course he is. He made the blatant wrong choice of appointment to begin with. Sacking the manager doesn't absolve Levy of anything, it underlines his mistake.

Blatant wrong choice?!?!?!?!?! We were midtable and Conte come in and somehow got us Top4.

come on

 

[Trent Crimm]

He looks pale, tired / exhausted.

 

[mattspur1986]

Poch burned out after years of managing a declining team. He had nothing new to teach them.

He wanted rid of Wanyama, Rose etc but the club refused because they didn't want to face a painful and expensive rebuilt.

Levy thought he knew best, kicked the can down the road, and began our terminal decline.

Mourinho didn't improve the same players Poch wasn't improving, Nuno didn't improve, and Conte hasn't improved.

How many players have they improved in their careers? Do we seriously think this is a coaching problem?

Nuno was only here because the club didn't have a plan, and the word was out that Levy is difficult to work with.



That lot down the road are top with lower revenues than ours. Their owners are business people too. They have an ambitious plan and are executing it aggressively.

They pushed players out, stuck to the technical blueprint for signings undistracted by chasing bargains, and were prepared to act quickly and decisively to take hits on any transfer mistakes and keep moving forward.

We had a massive advantage on them this summer both in revenues and CL football, and we've squandered it.

Go back and look at what AVB said about the Bale 7. It's more or less exactly what we did this summer. Exactly. We bought mostly investments and temp fillers. Richarlison aside, we didn't attack the problems. Throw in some new problems with Lloris and Son and we've fallen apart.



This is a straw man argument. The issue with Levy isn't that he didn't spend £300m we didn't have.

I want us to spend, with ambition and discipline within the tactical and technical vision of the coach. Spend what we can afford. No more, no less.

The argument on Levy is the interfering on players out, and players in.

Sticking to bad investments until they stink the place out. Rigidly buying low and selling high.

If we're a big club we can afford to replace a £50m RB we sold 5 years ago with a £40m back 2, 3, 4 windows ago.

We've wasted more time, money, and opportunity cost trying to replace Walker on the cheap, and refusing to do what it takes to move our mistakes on.

We don't act decisively and assertively if a player won't leave. We're a soft touch and they know it. So they ride it out until the next manager arrives and the cycle starts again.

This culture has been created by the Board's actions.

The sad thing is it's within Levy's power to change this if he wanted. But he's either unable or willing to change. So I want him gone.

what makes this worse, we was told he was changing and taking a back seat but then reverted to type with the spence deal, and now hes been meddling like years gone.

hes a stain on the footballing side, make him a commercial director or something. needs to be kept so far away from football side of things, he just dont get it, the amazon doc proved that.

 

[Trent Crimm]

should just let Levy manage, then finally he can sack himself.

He would love that. He can give himself 3 salaries.

 

[1882andallthat]

He is accountable, of course he is. He made the blatant wrong choice of appointment to begin with. Sacking the manager doesn't absolve Levy of anything, it underlines his mistake.

It does, or it should do, but unfortunately it is an unpalatable truth that he gets away with it time and time again and there are no negative consequences that come his way.

I just wish all fans of Spurs could just unite with this view and I wish some would not get constantly sidetracked into "yeah but it's not entirely his fault its just as much the current manager's fault, or the Sporting Director is just as much or almost as much as Levy is to blame"..... Can those that do this not finally see that it is this approach and these views that dilute the full fire that should come Levy's way, and diverted attention and blame away from Levy indirectly legitimises what he does and allows him a route back in to repeating his tricks that will consistently hold us back in the pursuit real and tangible on the field success.

 

[FinnYid]

Blatant wrong choice?!?!?!?!?! We were midtable and Conte come in and somehow got us Top4.

Blatant wrong choice for longer term.

He had good impact on beaten down team. So had Mr. Gilet on 13/14. One had 56 in 28, other 42 in 22. Perhaps we should've sticked with Timmy and backed him massively?

 

[YB123]

Blatant wrong choice for longer term.

He had good impact on beaten down team. So had Mr. Gilet on 13/14. One had 56 in 28, other 42 in 22. Perhaps we should've sticked with Timmy and backed him massively?

You've lost your way now with this debate. Ridiculous comparison.

 

[Harrier]

Blatant wrong choice?!?!?!?!?! We were midtable and Conte come in and somehow got us Top4.

Come on, give this up.

We were ninth, but it was six points off fourth place IIRC.

Do you really feel Conte is the right manager to oversee a rebuild over perhaps three or four seasons, as it certainly can’t be done in one or two windows with the amount of surgery required?

Do you feel he is likely to play the swashbuckling football THFC has been built on?

 

[FinnYid]

You've lost your way now with this debate. Ridiculous comparison.

True, we didn't have to watch Timmy make the club history in leaking goals as we appointed Poch instead of one that gave nice run resultwise (very much on par with what Conte did last season) after replacing manager mid-season.

 

[YB123]

We were ninth, but it was six points off fourth place IIRC.

Do you really feel Conte is the right manager to oversee a rebuild over perhaps three or four seasons, as it certainly can’t be done in one or two windows with the amount of surgery required?

Do you feel he is likely to play the swashbuckling football THFC has been built on?

In 6 months, he achieved what arteta couldnt in 2 seasons. Why is there always this desire for 3-4-5 year Project.

Conte said he needed 2 or 3 more windows so if a manager can get you UCL that quickly, you back him.

As for the football, nobody was complaining at it second half of last season, yes it could be prettier. But I tell you what is prettier, watching your club lift silverware.

 

[McFlash]

There will never be a plan with Conte. If we are to have one, he needs to go. We can't build a lasting philosophy in game that belongs to history and is opposite of clubs tradition. There is nothing to build in there, we can back him all we want, all we can, and we still won't be moving anywhere.

You are properly blinded by a dislike of Conte aren't you?
So much so that you seem completely unable to see past him and recognise the size of the problem in the background.

Everytime someone points it out to you, you just go back to doubling down against Conte.
Levy loves fans like you!

 

[FinnYid]

But I tell you what is prettier, watching your club lift silverware.

That's why we all have fond memories of Juande Ramos and George Grahams reigns instead of times under Poch & Redknapp?

 

[YB123]

You are properly blinded by a dislike of Conte aren't you?
So much so that you seem completely unable to see past him and recognise the size of the problem in the background.

Everytime someone points it out to you, you just go back to doubling down against Conte.
Levy loves fans like you!

Im not bothering responding anymore. Got no issue with someone criticisng Conte but its got ridiculous.

 

[FinnYid]

You are properly blinded by a dislike of Conte aren't you?
So much so that you seem completely unable to see past him and recognise the size of the problem in the background.

No, I see Conte as evidence of the bigger problem in the background.

Levy loves fans like you!

Why? Because I point that he has no fucking clue how to run footballing side and Conte as evidence of it?

 

[YB123]

That's why we all have fond memories of Juande Ramos and George Grahams reigns instead of times under Poch & Redknapp?

Thats a league Cup. One being ex gooner and the other nearly relegated us.

Would rather finish 5th with lovely football than win silverware. Levy has well and truly brainwashed some of this clubs support.

You ask Liverpool fans if they cared about their greatest night in Instanbul under defensive Rafa, or Chelsea fans with their greatest team under mourinho leaking minimal goals or ask Atletico fans about the numerous against all odds silverware theyve won under the park the bus Simeone.

 

[Harrier]

In 6 months, he achieved what arteta couldnt in 2 seasons. Why is there always this desire for 3-4-5 year

There isn’t the desire, but we need to face the reality considering the number of players requiring upgrade.

 

[mil1lion]

Blatant wrong choice for longer term.

He had good impact on beaten down team. So had Mr. Gilet on 13/14. One had 56 in 28, other 42 in 22. Perhaps we should've sticked with Timmy and backed him massively?

"Sticked with" pretty much sums up your posts tbh