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Fabio Paratici Sanctioned For 2.5 Years

Japhet

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The club publically stood by him during the court case and his heart(?) surgery, and Redknapp showed his appreciation by demanding a pay rise while Levy's wife was being admitted to hospital(iirc). That's why Levy sacked him, so the stories go.

He was also openly courting the England job the second he was in the clear.
 

skiba

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Very difficult to prove true player valuations IMO. I guess if they have evidence of two clubs colluding to increase the fees that's pretty damming but then who says what the true values of these players are? Who decides what exact value should they have been sold at?

I've said it before but just because Paritici has been given the harshest sentence from a sporting perspective doesn't mean it will translate in the criminal one. Athletes can cheat by taking performance enhancing drugs and receive lengthily bans but it's not illegal.

The criminal investigation is because Juve have reported over inflated profits to the stock exchange, a big no no. I very much doubt the the financial reporting falls under Paritic's remit and if the finance team and owner new about it (which I'm sure they would have) then I reckon they will be in far more hot water.

Let's say he Paritici did similar at Spurs and Levy knowing about it sold Spurs at an inflated value. I imagine in that situation both Levy and whoever is the responsible for preparing the accounts will be held far more accountable in that situation.
 

djhotspur

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Very difficult to prove true player valuations IMO. I guess if they have evidence of two clubs colluding to increase the fees that's pretty damming but then who says what the true values of these players are? Who decides what exact value should they have been sold at?

I've said it before but just because Paritici has been given the harshest sentence from a sporting perspective doesn't mean it will translate in the criminal one. Athletes can cheat by taking performance enhancing drugs and receive lengthily bans but it's not illegal.

The criminal investigation is because Juve have reported over inflated profits to the stock exchange, a big no no. I very much doubt the the financial reporting falls under Paritic's remit and if the finance team and owner new about it (which I'm sure they would have) then I reckon they will be in far more hot water.

Let's say he Paritici did similar at Spurs and Levy knowing about it sold Spurs at an inflated value. I imagine in that situation both Levy and whoever is the responsible for preparing the accounts will be held far more accountable in that situation.
Exactly. 100m for Antony is pretty corrupt
 

Gassin's finest

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He was also openly courting the England job the second he was in the clear.
He never actually did though, iirc. That was just something Spurs fans inferred and ran with. Like everything being Jenas' fault and Lloris being shit at kicking.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Suspect he’s gone once the window closes. Probably too involved in deals this weak to risk binning him before the deadline. But if we now can’t deal with clubs because of him and the suspension is extended to the UK, his position is untenable.
Agree. The big Q is who replaces him, does Levy get it right and will Conte be on board with it.

I’d love Rangnick as DofF but conteball doesn’t really match his philosophy unfortunately
 

Sophos151

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With Gil set to rejoin Sevilla, I think I’ve given up on Paratici.

His track record here has been so poor, with only three hits - Romero, Bentancur, and Kulusevski. The problem is that these are all players he knew from his time at Juventus, whose agents he had previously worked with, whose contracts he had in some cases written.

So what can he do when he’s not falling back on players from his time at Juventus? Here’s what he’s offered up:

  • Gollini. One of our worst backup keepers for some time IMO.
  • Emerson. Decent defensive fullback perhaps, but woeful going forward - not a player who is going to thrive here.
  • Sarr. Jury’s out but promising signs so far.
  • Gil. Talented player but doesn’t seem physically or mentally suited to Premier League football.
  • Richarlison. £60m on a player Conte doesn’t seem to have any interest in giving starts to.
  • Bissouma. Been poor so far.
  • Lenglet. Mediocre at best.
  • Perisic. Not up to the Premier a League physically.
  • Forster. Possibly a decent backup but we have yet to see.
Nine players, none of whom you could describe as real successes - Perisic’s set pieces aside. Spending big money on players who don’t suit Conte, while neglecting priorities.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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With Gil set to rejoin Sevilla, I think I’ve given up on Paratici.

His track record here has been so poor, with only three hits - Romero, Bentancur, and Kulusevski. The problem is that these are all players he knew from his time at Juventus, whose agents he had previously worked with, whose contracts he had in some cases written.

So what can he do when he’s not falling back on players from his time at Juventus? Here’s what he’s offered up:

  • Gollini. One of our worst backup keepers for some time IMO.
  • Emerson. Decent defensive fullback perhaps, but woeful going forward - not a player who is going to thrive here.
  • Sarr. Jury’s out but promising signs so far.
  • Gil. Talented player but doesn’t seem physically or mentally suited to Premier League football.
  • Richarlison. £60m on a player Conte doesn’t seem to have any interest in giving starts to.
  • Bissouma. Been poor so far.
  • Lenglet. Mediocre at best.
  • Perisic. Not up to the Premier a League physically.
  • Forster. Possibly a decent backup but we have yet to see.
Nine players, none of whom you could describe as real successes - Perisic’s set pieces aside. Spending big money on players who don’t suit Conte, while neglecting priorities.
Where to even start with this ?
 

Yiddo100

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With Gil set to rejoin Sevilla, I think I’ve given up on Paratici.

His track record here has been so poor, with only three hits - Romero, Bentancur, and Kulusevski. The problem is that these are all players he knew from his time at Juventus, whose agents he had previously worked with, whose contracts he had in some cases written.

So what can he do when he’s not falling back on players from his time at Juventus? Here’s what he’s offered up:

  • Gollini. One of our worst backup keepers for some time IMO.
  • Emerson. Decent defensive fullback perhaps, but woeful going forward - not a player who is going to thrive here.
  • Sarr. Jury’s out but promising signs so far.
  • Gil. Talented player but doesn’t seem physically or mentally suited to Premier League football.
  • Richarlison. £60m on a player Conte doesn’t seem to have any interest in giving starts to.
  • Bissouma. Been poor so far.
  • Lenglet. Mediocre at best.
  • Perisic. Not up to the Premier a League physically.
  • Forster. Possibly a decent backup but we have yet to see.
Nine players, none of whom you could describe as real successes - Perisic’s set pieces aside. Spending big money on players who don’t suit Conte, while neglecting priorities.
I’ll play somewhat devils advocate
Gollini -yeah not great
Emerson- was bought in as a RB for a different formation and I don’t think he’s that bad as a defensive RB, definitely not a wingback though.
Gil/Sarr - 2/3 weeks ago everyone was raving about them.
Richarlison- struggled with injuries but I think he’ll be fine.
Bissouma- was one of the best CMs last season, some reason not got going yet.
Lenglet - clearly not anyone’s first choice, we got him because the higher up didn’t fancy paying for a big LCB buy.
Perisic - obviously contes pick but expected more considering how good he was last year but he’s not been awful.
Forster- doing what he came here to do, okay cup games and he’s looked solid enough.

Add in Udogie, Romero, kulusevski, Bentancur and hopefully Porro? and I don’t think he’s doing to badly.
 

The Apprentice

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With Gil set to rejoin Sevilla, I think I’ve given up on Paratici.

His track record here has been so poor, with only three hits - Romero, Bentancur, and Kulusevski. The problem is that these are all players he knew from his time at Juventus, whose agents he had previously worked with, whose contracts he had in some cases written.

So what can he do when he’s not falling back on players from his time at Juventus? Here’s what he’s offered up:

  • Gollini. One of our worst backup keepers for some time IMO.
  • Emerson. Decent defensive fullback perhaps, but woeful going forward - not a player who is going to thrive here.
  • Sarr. Jury’s out but promising signs so far.
  • Gil. Talented player but doesn’t seem physically or mentally suited to Premier League football.
  • Richarlison. £60m on a player Conte doesn’t seem to have any interest in giving starts to.
  • Bissouma. Been poor so far.
  • Lenglet. Mediocre at best.
  • Perisic. Not up to the Premier a League physically.
  • Forster. Possibly a decent backup but we have yet to see.
Nine players, none of whom you could describe as real successes - Perisic’s set pieces aside. Spending big money on players who don’t suit Conte, while neglecting priorities.

Very harsh assessment. You’re not going to hit with every signing.

I’d say Kulu, Bentancur, Romero, Udogie, Sarr, Richarlison (once fit) and potentially Porro is pretty decent going.

It’s Captain Hindsight to claim that Bissouma would fail. I’d say 99% of the fan base were overjoyed with his signing. It’s just not clicked yet.

Lenglet has plugged a gap and is only a loan.
 

Sophos151

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I’ll play somewhat devils advocate
Gollini -yeah not great
Emerson- was bought in as a RB for a different formation and I don’t think he’s that bad as a defensive RB, definitely not a wingback though.
Gil/Sarr - 2/3 weeks ago everyone was raving about them.
Richarlison- struggled with injuries but I think he’ll be fine.
Bissouma- was one of the best CMs last season, some reason not got going yet.
Lenglet - clearly not anyone’s first choice, we got him because the higher up didn’t fancy paying for a big LCB buy.
Perisic - obviously contes pick but expected more considering how good he was last year but he’s not been awful.
Forster- doing what he came here to do, okay cup games and he’s looked solid enough.

Add in Udogie, Romero, kulusevski, Bentancur and hopefully Porro? and I don’t think he’s doing to badly.
I’m not saying the likes of Bissouma or Richarlison are bad, just that we’ve spent a lot of money and they haven’t troubled the starting XI at all. Likewise Gil was £30 plus Lamela, that’s a huge fee for someone whose best contribution in eighteen months is an assist against Palace. Emerson, I still don’t know if he’d be a good defensive FB, but that’s a very niche role anyway in today’s game.

Lenglet, maybe we should’ve spent money to get someone better there rather than £60m on Richarlison? No one was calling for a new LW/ST hybrid, we all knew we needed a CB. And the higher-ups were willing to spend on a CB, we had a deal agreed for Bastoni but he didn’t want to leave Inter.
 

arunspurs

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Paratici record is top class at Spurs.
Some players haven't worked out , not because they are bad or unworthy of Spurs shirt.

Lets not forget managerial merry go around we have had - its not easy to bring in players who 1 manager want & keep on changing it when next manager comes in

Had Conte been there on day 1, I bet, Paratici would not have bought Gil , Sarr & Emerson. So, if a player didnt work out, its not necessarily Sporting director fault.

Only player decision I would fault is Spence - it seems Conte just didnt want him but we went ahead anyway
 

Sophos151

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Paratici record is top class at Spurs.
Some players haven't worked out , not because they are bad or unworthy of Spurs shirt.

Lets not forget managerial merry go around we have had - its not easy to bring in players who 1 manager want & keep on changing it when next manager comes in

Had Conte been there on day 1, I bet, Paratici would not have bought Gil , Sarr & Emerson. So, if a player didnt work out, its not necessarily Sporting director fault.

Only player decision I would fault is Spence - it seems Conte just didnt want him but we went ahead anyway
I doubt Spence was anything to do with Paratici, seems like a recommendation from a club scout (Pleat?) who Levy handled the negotiations for.

My concern with Paratici is that none of his signings this season have had a real impact, especially considering the amount of money that he had available. He’s got an eye for talent, but that’s the easy part - can he figure out which talents will thrive here? I’m not so sure.
 

arunspurs

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I doubt Spence was anything to do with Paratici, seems like a recommendation from a club scout (Pleat?) who Levy handled the negotiations for.

My concern with Paratici is that none of his signings this season have had a real impact, especially considering the amount of money that he had available. He’s got an eye for talent, but that’s the easy part - can he figure out which talents will thrive here? I’m not so sure.

Injuries & world cup in between ruined first half of season for us.
Richarlison, Romero hardly played. Son got injured prior to WC and now only after letting go of the medical mask, he is seeming getting things together.

Bissouma didnt hit the ground running but of late he is coming together.

I am very confident that summer signings will make a huge differernce in 2nd half - lets not forget, we are still in 3 comps
 

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Juventus received the written reasons for the 15 point deduction today, including the sanctions against all individuals (assume they will have advised Paratici directly himself separately). They have 30 days to lodge appeal which they have said they will do.
FIGC will not be requesting ban on Paratici to be extended beyond having any dealings in Italian Football at any level until after that appeal.
 
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