Fine margins that killed AVB this season

[markieboy]

I'm not a Levy fan or a hater.

But Daniel must take full responsibility for the AVB error taking into consideration DL is Joe Lewis representatives on earth so to speak. Said Mr Lewis is getting on and I'm starting to wonder if he is becoming a little hurried in his decision making with AVB a prime example. I would love to know how much power DL holds.

The Lewis's of this world rarely let go of the reins while they're alive.

The only mistake Levy made in all this was giving Villas Boas the job in the first place.
He should NEVER have been considered for the position.
If he had his doubts about Redknapp(and most of us did) he should have sacked him earlier and given the job to Ancelotti when he was available.

 

[SteveH]

If it was about fine margins, he wouldn't have been sacked.

People talk about points on the board but it's how you got those points as well. Three separate 1-0 penalty wins. At least two of the pens were extremely fortunate. That is not a repeatable formula for winning games and it showed.

Until we beat Southampton at the weekend, we hadn't beaten a single team in the top half with only Stoke left to play. So not only were we not beating top half sides, we we struggling to beat bottom half sides. Add two unbelievable thrashings, with a sprinkling of 100m of spending in the summer and you get a gaping chasm of a margin as to why AVB was sacked.

Spot on.

Results/thrashings
Style/lack of goals
Ade/stubbornness

 

[SteveH]

The only mistake Levy made in all this was giving Villas Boas the job in the first place.
He should NEVER have been considered for the position.
If he had his doubts about Redknapp(and most of us did) he should have sacked him earlier and given the job to Ancelotti when he was available.

DL got it wrong yes - but hindsight must be a wonderful gift.
I'm not sure that AVB was that unpopular when he was signed - we all got behind him and hoped he would prove Chelsea wrong. Sadly the opposite was the case.

I'm not sure if on Ancelotti - we may of liked him. But not sure he would not have been looking for richer feeding grounds than little old us.

 

[Damian99]

5. Dull, uneventful and at times dam right boring football.

6. The inability to create meaningful chances despite having several attacking quality players on t he pitch at the same time.

7. Fucking off Ade and Benny with no real sign of either returning to the first team, despite desperately needing at least one of them(Ade)

8. Not doing players such as Lamela any good what so ever to try and find his feet and some confidence/form. Looks like he's going to start playing only to be left out the next game.

 

[Boots]

I don't know what led to the man's firing but I don't think its down to his losing those games. Andre I think honestly was fed up with the attacks from the media and saw how it was affecting his management of the team and left.

 

[bigfrooj]

He wasn't lucky to be given the Chelsea job as such - he did have a sensational season at Porto and the Chelsea appointment was not overly surprising

Having fucked up so royally for Chelsea however and proved himself pretty inept in the PL at a top club he was extremely lucky to bounce back so hire and be appointed for us.

Let's be honest Levy made a very foolish decision trying to be a smart arse - he bought into the same stupid hype about being the next Jose (even after his time at Chelsea had exposed it) and thought that somehow this hype would have more substance for us than it did for Chelsea

The fact that Chelsea were so shit under him yet good enough to become the best team in Europe with the same players once he'd left highlighted how poor a job he did there. Every Chelsea fan in the World laughed their tits off when we hired him but Levy thought he was being slick and swooping for the next Jose who had just had a small blip (wrong club wrong time etc) but now we've gone backwards and taken the best part of 2 seasons to realise what should have been obvious from the start - AVB was all hype and no substance and now Levy has egg on his face and has to finally realise that he is not up to making the football decisions at our club.

I think AVB was more lucky than unlucky under us and the fine margins benefited him more than bringing his downfall - unjust penalties, undeserved wins etc etc, we always seemed to be in a false inflated position under AVB and I am glad those lucky fine margins prevented his lack of managerial skills from doing any more damage to our over all project

Its bad enough he's wasted a great opportunity to captialise on the stunting of the top four teams during transition as Arsenal and Liverpool have - At least he was lucky enough to have Bale and Lloris (and this season joke penalities) to keep us in contention so the new man has a fair crack at saving our season and we can all just forget about AVB who was a huge huge mistake by Levy -worse than Ramos in my opinion (at least he won silverware)

AVB is not and will never be Jose - he just happens to have worked under him and managed two of the same teams he has (oh yea and been born in the same country). He's a young and inexperienced coach and to date an unsuccessful coach unable to do more than win with a winning team - for his sake I hope he steps down a few levels, learns his trade properly and goes on to become a good manager in the future. I wish him good luck, it was Levy's mistake not his, he was simply out of his comfort zone and out of his depth

I'm thinking in hindsight that he is a fraud or conman. Very clever and very charming but when we look back we'll probably think he was the football equivalent of that geezer doing sign language at Mandelas funeral. Only he has got away with it a couple of times.

 

[SteveH]

I don't know what led to the man's firing but I don't think its down to his losing those games. Andre I think honestly was fed up with the attacks from the media and saw how it was affecting his management of the team and left.

Yes its not nice - but he needs to grow some. If you are right.

 

[Bulletspur]

2. Spurs 1-1 Chelsea

Outstanding in the first half and if paulinho had not hit the post and made it 2-0 I think to this day we would have won. It shows what a difference Eriksen makes to our team.

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How can you call this unlucky? Mourhino changed his tactics in the second half by bringing on Mata and increased the midfield to 5. What did AVB do? He kept sandro on the bench, took off our best player on the day and replaced him by playing another out of position. Unlucky? One of many AVB fuck ups, so no margin here.
You based your thread on games you thought we should have won by being "unlucky", what about those we won that we were lucky to? It usually balances out in the end if you did not know

 

[idontgetit]

I'm thinking in hindsight that he is a fraud or conman. Very clever and very charming but when we look back we'll probably think he was the football equivalent of that geezer doing sign language at Mandelas funeral. Only he has got away with it a couple of times.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/so...s-boas-smartest-man-alive-103313685--sow.html

You've hit the nail on the head mate, we never realised how clever the sneaky ginger bastard actually is!

 

[Bulletspur]

There isn't much bad luck that Andre wasn't complicit in. The Rose injury was fatal, IMO, but however much he wanted shot of Benni, he should have demanded a replacement. That said, it's fairly obvious that the environment within the upper echelons of the club hasn't been, and perhaps still isn't with Baldini around, stable or healthy.

Everyone man and his dog was saying that Rose should have been rested before the game that hardly mattered but AVB insisted on playing him, and we all know what happened after. So even here, he was complicit.

 

[slartibartfast]

I have to agree that had results been completly different we may not have seen him go.

 

[markieboy]

I don't know what led to the man's firing but I don't think its down to his losing those games. Andre I think honestly was fed up with the attacks from the media and saw how it was affecting his management of the team and left.

Sorry pal but you are living in wonderland if you think Mr Villas Boas left of his own accord.
Looking at Levys face during the Liverpool game, I would suggest that he would have much preferred AVB's exit to be through a window on the top floor rather than just out the front gate.

 

[only1waddle]

Sorry pal but you are living in wonderland if you think Mr Villas Boas left of his own accord.
Looking at Levys face during the Liverpool game, I would suggest that he would have much preferred AVB's exit to be through a window on the top floor rather than just out the front gate.

Personally i think both Levy and AvB had had enough, and it was a mutual decision, the fine margin of not getting 11 world class players in the transfer window for AvB and the complete lack of any footballing joy, and heavy defeats, was swinging it for Levy.
I was convinced the early performances were decent building blocks, but our football had become nothing football, neither defensive nor attacking, coupled with a few really dire results, continuous awful substitutions etc and he simply had to go.

 

[markieboy]

DL got it wrong yes - but hindsight must be a wonderful gift.
I'm not sure that AVB was that unpopular when he was signed - we all got behind him and hoped he would prove Chelsea wrong. Sadly the opposite was the case.

I'm not sure if on Ancelotti - we may of liked him. But not sure he would not have been looking for richer feeding grounds than little old us.

We are not minnows.

 

[whatsappnin]

Fine Margins = WORK HARDER

 

[SteveH]

We are not minnows.

Minnows maybe not, Sprats probably.
Sadly compared to Real, City and Chelsea we are, especially where it matters, cash at bank.

 

[NEVILLEB]

AVB is a shit football manager

It's that complicated.