DiscoD1882
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I’ve got the tingles reading that mate. Couldn’t have put it better myself.
Following Spurs (Football) & Your Mental Health
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DiscoD1882
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The one thing I will add is the high road before kick off on final night. Couldn’t go to Madrid. So went to the stadium. And Jesus. It was a fucking street party. Amazing to see. Even if we didn’t win it. Dare to dream mate. Dare to dream.
EmperorKabir
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- Dec 8, 2004
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The situation: Taking a step back, I know I never wanted Mourinho in, the reasons are obvious from my opening post. His treatment of women leaves a lot to be desired as well while I'm throwing knives. The club looks to be at a fork in the road and it needs to choose a path sometime between now and the summer. There are some crucial questions that we don't know the answers to, namely:
-Have the club structured their finances enough to both handle covid and the necessity to have a large net positive spend in the summer transfer window if we really want to compete at the top, not just for the sake of winning things but to ensure our own longevity as a big club, currently with big debts? We need big football to keep big revenues to pay big debts, (unless TV money were to jump up which it's not looking to). It's a bit of a vicious cycle.
-If we don't, do we face a spiral of losing a manager and then the handful of good players we have and getting worse by not being able to attract good replacements anymore? Is there a bottom level we can sit at and lick our wounds for a couple of years while also being able to service our debts or do we begin to look at serious trouble if we become increasingly unattractive to top level players/staff?
The flipside of the above is that if we do indeed have money sorted, e.g. bring in Nagalsmann, throw money at good replacements and press on, then we're OK. I'm not really sure though.
The mind: I've not thought about much else since we lost tonight and as a Mourinho hater, it's bittersweet. He's taken a big step closer to the end of his tenure but the play itself as a reflection of the club was horrible and disheartening. In short though, knowing that we have finally reached that fork in the road (or are about to) that looks like a big one for the club has suddenly started feeling rather ominous for the club I've spent my life following.
The healthy approach, (I think): Whenever Spurs hit these big forks as we have in the past, it's easy to obsess with what's happening next, all the while seeing muppets on social media giving it large against us. These are the moments where if you're not careful, it takes up too much of your mental energy and that's when we have to be a little more direct with ourselves and say:
Look, you follow the club, but it's not part of who you are; it's just something you make a lot of time for in your life but it doesn't have to all the time or even at crucial club moments and their failures/misfortune (and even their sucesses) are not your own, no matter what. The mental investment is a choice we make and we have the full freedom to invest as much and as little as we like at whatever time we like. The trick is being aware of it and working on where to place your mental energy instead in a positive way.
-Have the club structured their finances enough to both handle covid and the necessity to have a large net positive spend in the summer transfer window if we really want to compete at the top, not just for the sake of winning things but to ensure our own longevity as a big club, currently with big debts? We need big football to keep big revenues to pay big debts, (unless TV money were to jump up which it's not looking to). It's a bit of a vicious cycle.
-If we don't, do we face a spiral of losing a manager and then the handful of good players we have and getting worse by not being able to attract good replacements anymore? Is there a bottom level we can sit at and lick our wounds for a couple of years while also being able to service our debts or do we begin to look at serious trouble if we become increasingly unattractive to top level players/staff?
The flipside of the above is that if we do indeed have money sorted, e.g. bring in Nagalsmann, throw money at good replacements and press on, then we're OK. I'm not really sure though.
The mind: I've not thought about much else since we lost tonight and as a Mourinho hater, it's bittersweet. He's taken a big step closer to the end of his tenure but the play itself as a reflection of the club was horrible and disheartening. In short though, knowing that we have finally reached that fork in the road (or are about to) that looks like a big one for the club has suddenly started feeling rather ominous for the club I've spent my life following.
The healthy approach, (I think): Whenever Spurs hit these big forks as we have in the past, it's easy to obsess with what's happening next, all the while seeing muppets on social media giving it large against us. These are the moments where if you're not careful, it takes up too much of your mental energy and that's when we have to be a little more direct with ourselves and say:
Look, you follow the club, but it's not part of who you are; it's just something you make a lot of time for in your life but it doesn't have to all the time or even at crucial club moments and their failures/misfortune (and even their sucesses) are not your own, no matter what. The mental investment is a choice we make and we have the full freedom to invest as much and as little as we like at whatever time we like. The trick is being aware of it and working on where to place your mental energy instead in a positive way.
CoopsieDeadpool
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CoopsieDeadpool
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Sorry for this but I just found it so fitting.
Sitting in my front room & tell Alexa on my TV to play something mellow. After a couple of songs, on comes Simon & Garfunkel, Bridge Over Troubled Water (cracking track by the way). Listening to the lyrics & it's almost as though they're written about our club, by it's Supporters
.
When you're weary
Feeling small
When tears are in your eyes
I'll dry them all
I'm on your side
Oh, when times get rough
And friends just can't be found
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
When you're down and out
When you're on the street
When evening falls so hard
I will comfort you
I'll take your part
Oh, when darkness comes
And pain is all around
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Sitting in my front room & tell Alexa on my TV to play something mellow. After a couple of songs, on comes Simon & Garfunkel, Bridge Over Troubled Water (cracking track by the way). Listening to the lyrics & it's almost as though they're written about our club, by it's Supporters
.When you're weary
Feeling small
When tears are in your eyes
I'll dry them all
I'm on your side
Oh, when times get rough
And friends just can't be found
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
When you're down and out
When you're on the street
When evening falls so hard
I will comfort you
I'll take your part
Oh, when darkness comes
And pain is all around
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
hellava_tough
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- Apr 21, 2005
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2021 sees my 30th year of supporting Spurs.
In that time ('91 to '21) I've seen quite a few ups and downs, quite a few managers and players come and go, new ownership, 3 trophies and all sorts of other things.
It still stings when we lose, but I recover much quicker (within an hour) from a loss.
Three decades of support brings a lot of experience and I've witnessed repeat events, cycles and generally the same talking points, which allows me to predict where things are going before they arrive there. I don't get as surprised with things as I once might have and so there tends not to be any shocks to the system these days.
I'm also finding it easier to put things in perspective; crap team this year, build, good team in 3 years time, good for 3 years, crap again; rinse and repeat. Good times come, good times go. It's cyclical.
And as you get older, the things of 'real life' take a priority and the tantrums, faults and failings of 20-something millionnaires and the penny pinching of billionnaire owners become something that you just roll your eyes at.
This all might sound a bit jaded (perhaps it is), but I'm still enjoying football and it's still a good distraction from the hum-drum of life. Plus it's something to talk about at work; small-talk to break the ice.
So I'll end by saying, just take the enjoyable side from football and laugh at your club's failings. There's no point in letting them get you down, especially if you're paying through the nose for the pleasure.
It's passionate entertainment; eat up that side of it and dump the rest.
In that time ('91 to '21) I've seen quite a few ups and downs, quite a few managers and players come and go, new ownership, 3 trophies and all sorts of other things.
It still stings when we lose, but I recover much quicker (within an hour) from a loss.
Three decades of support brings a lot of experience and I've witnessed repeat events, cycles and generally the same talking points, which allows me to predict where things are going before they arrive there. I don't get as surprised with things as I once might have and so there tends not to be any shocks to the system these days.
I'm also finding it easier to put things in perspective; crap team this year, build, good team in 3 years time, good for 3 years, crap again; rinse and repeat. Good times come, good times go. It's cyclical.
And as you get older, the things of 'real life' take a priority and the tantrums, faults and failings of 20-something millionnaires and the penny pinching of billionnaire owners become something that you just roll your eyes at.
This all might sound a bit jaded (perhaps it is), but I'm still enjoying football and it's still a good distraction from the hum-drum of life. Plus it's something to talk about at work; small-talk to break the ice.
So I'll end by saying, just take the enjoyable side from football and laugh at your club's failings. There's no point in letting them get you down, especially if you're paying through the nose for the pleasure.
It's passionate entertainment; eat up that side of it and dump the rest.
hellava_tough
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Sorry for this but I just found it so fitting.
Sitting in my front room & tell Alexa on my TV to play something mellow. After a couple of songs, on comes Simon & Garfunkel, Bridge Over Troubled Water (cracking track by the way). Listening to the lyrics & it's almost as though they're written about our club, by it's Supporters
When you're weary
Feeling small
When tears are in your eyes
I'll dry them all
I'm on your side
Oh, when times get rough
And friends just can't be found
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
When you're down and out
When you're on the street
When evening falls so hard
I will comfort you
I'll take your part
Oh, when darkness comes
And pain is all around
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
That is a cracking idea for a new thread
CoopsieDeadpool
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- Jun 8, 2012
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Don't
Don't think I've ever been brave enough to start a Spurs thread.
Still, Pfft.
Coopsie associated with cracking idea?
I think Tottenham have finally broken you.
That is a cracking idea for a new thread
Don't think I've ever been brave enough to start a Spurs thread.
Still, Pfft.
Coopsie associated with cracking idea?
I think Tottenham have finally broken you.
EmperorKabir
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- Dec 8, 2004
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umm.... so.... arguably the biggest shift in football since the formation of the leagues about 110 years ago (ish) and then we sack Jose the next day.
I've got an exam in a couple of days and instead my mind is swimming with all the football news. As a season ticket holder, this could shift the image of the club and the matchday experience. For me personally I can see pros and cons:
The biggest pro: Don't berate me! I'm splitting out potential pro and con and these are hypothetical given it's early days. The super league was being discussed for 10 to 15 years now and as a BSODL, I've always bought into the ENIC project of becoming a self sustaining giant having taken us from mid table levels, (see my opening post). We have been desperate to sit at the big table without the ugly money injection and bizarrely it seems to have happened, just like that, (despite the highly controversial way it's been done). Sure, it can be argued that we need to earn our way there, but if the playing field wasn't level in the first place, it's not like the existing football structure was clean - not that I'm arguing that a super league is clean! Having been in decline since the 2019 CL run, (and during that season a bit domestically), things were looking lost and it was heartbreaking, especially for me personally who is not a Jose fan. All of a sudden, we're accepted as a big player in the game and Jose goes in one day. I'm stunned. This is what we wanted.... in a way..... the cost is very high though. If money and FFP in the ESL is even, we might get an even and competitive tournament as well after a few seasons of evening out... but perhaps that's extremely wishful thinking. This is a thread on our mental health though, I have mixed feelings, but I'm quietly hopeful. Perhaps I'm being naive. We've been screwed over for years and maybe this, finally, is our acceptance as an elite fighter in a more level playing field? Not by other fans as such but by our own yardstick which is what matters more? It could be argued that the cost is worth it?
The con: Well this is obvious enough to us all. Massive threats of money no longer trickling down the pyramid, and downplaying the importance of the league as it now matters less to fight for top positions, (unless you basically want to win it and come 1st. Coming 2nd to 6th will be a bit pointless). What of the cup competitions? We're used to seeing 40-60 odd games a season with relatively even importance and that's now going to change dramatically quite possibly if the super league happens.
I feel particularly sorry for those fans who invest a lot of their time doing the weekly routine. I know he's a gooner but Claude from AFTV openly admitted that without football, he might not have been here. I'm lucky enough to have other things going on in life, (again, see opening post) but I worry for others who are not so lucky.
A lot of fans are utterly heartbroken about the loss of the core of the football. Perhaps this was always coming and covid finally forced the hands and that final transition to sterile corporate football is one step away (total loss of committed fans will be the final nail and it becomes a spectator passing by sport). I'm not jumping to that doomsday image quite yet; a lot remains to be seen. From the mental health point view, all that I've mentioned here though is a concern that jumps about my mind.
In short: I'm not sure how to take this all in. The reception has been hugely critical for many good reasons but I do see SOME pros as well, especially now the manager has gone. This is just my opinion. It also might not happen and we just get a hugely revamped UEFA competition format instead! However, Jose going is a big weight off my shoulders for me personally. Excited about being linked to people like Nagalsman and change is always interesting regardless. Maybe we've finally achieved the goal of project ENIC, maybe the cost is too high but....
and so right now: Best thing I can do now is remind myself that I have no responsibility to any of this and am really only an observer, take a breath and get back to my exam studying. I've got my own life to live as well and I might suggest that anyone who quietly admits to themselves that their head can't stop swimming with all this also takes a breath and realise they've got their own lives to live as well. Take each bit of new news as fun drama that we aren't directly attached to rather than something that impacts our lives heavily. Yes, the way we watch and think about football and spurs might change a lot now, and yes, that's a part of how we spend some of our lives, but we have no responsibility to it. This should, in a healthy, idealistic system, be entertainment first and healthy commitment second. Deep breaths people; it's been an absolutely mad last 13 odd hours, and we have to be kind to ourselves in recognising how we react to it!
I've got an exam in a couple of days and instead my mind is swimming with all the football news. As a season ticket holder, this could shift the image of the club and the matchday experience. For me personally I can see pros and cons:
The biggest pro: Don't berate me! I'm splitting out potential pro and con and these are hypothetical given it's early days. The super league was being discussed for 10 to 15 years now and as a BSODL, I've always bought into the ENIC project of becoming a self sustaining giant having taken us from mid table levels, (see my opening post). We have been desperate to sit at the big table without the ugly money injection and bizarrely it seems to have happened, just like that, (despite the highly controversial way it's been done). Sure, it can be argued that we need to earn our way there, but if the playing field wasn't level in the first place, it's not like the existing football structure was clean - not that I'm arguing that a super league is clean! Having been in decline since the 2019 CL run, (and during that season a bit domestically), things were looking lost and it was heartbreaking, especially for me personally who is not a Jose fan. All of a sudden, we're accepted as a big player in the game and Jose goes in one day. I'm stunned. This is what we wanted.... in a way..... the cost is very high though. If money and FFP in the ESL is even, we might get an even and competitive tournament as well after a few seasons of evening out... but perhaps that's extremely wishful thinking. This is a thread on our mental health though, I have mixed feelings, but I'm quietly hopeful. Perhaps I'm being naive. We've been screwed over for years and maybe this, finally, is our acceptance as an elite fighter in a more level playing field? Not by other fans as such but by our own yardstick which is what matters more? It could be argued that the cost is worth it?
The con: Well this is obvious enough to us all. Massive threats of money no longer trickling down the pyramid, and downplaying the importance of the league as it now matters less to fight for top positions, (unless you basically want to win it and come 1st. Coming 2nd to 6th will be a bit pointless). What of the cup competitions? We're used to seeing 40-60 odd games a season with relatively even importance and that's now going to change dramatically quite possibly if the super league happens.
I feel particularly sorry for those fans who invest a lot of their time doing the weekly routine. I know he's a gooner but Claude from AFTV openly admitted that without football, he might not have been here. I'm lucky enough to have other things going on in life, (again, see opening post) but I worry for others who are not so lucky.
A lot of fans are utterly heartbroken about the loss of the core of the football. Perhaps this was always coming and covid finally forced the hands and that final transition to sterile corporate football is one step away (total loss of committed fans will be the final nail and it becomes a spectator passing by sport). I'm not jumping to that doomsday image quite yet; a lot remains to be seen. From the mental health point view, all that I've mentioned here though is a concern that jumps about my mind.
In short: I'm not sure how to take this all in. The reception has been hugely critical for many good reasons but I do see SOME pros as well, especially now the manager has gone. This is just my opinion. It also might not happen and we just get a hugely revamped UEFA competition format instead! However, Jose going is a big weight off my shoulders for me personally. Excited about being linked to people like Nagalsman and change is always interesting regardless. Maybe we've finally achieved the goal of project ENIC, maybe the cost is too high but....
and so right now: Best thing I can do now is remind myself that I have no responsibility to any of this and am really only an observer, take a breath and get back to my exam studying. I've got my own life to live as well and I might suggest that anyone who quietly admits to themselves that their head can't stop swimming with all this also takes a breath and realise they've got their own lives to live as well. Take each bit of new news as fun drama that we aren't directly attached to rather than something that impacts our lives heavily. Yes, the way we watch and think about football and spurs might change a lot now, and yes, that's a part of how we spend some of our lives, but we have no responsibility to it. This should, in a healthy, idealistic system, be entertainment first and healthy commitment second. Deep breaths people; it's been an absolutely mad last 13 odd hours, and we have to be kind to ourselves in recognising how we react to it!
Nodutus
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For me, the so called ESL would be the final nail in the coffin for my football interest. It really symbolize what I truly hate and despise about the modern football – greedy corporate giants hijacking the beautiful game that's meant for everyone and the one I once fell in love with.
I'm really serious that I would completely give up all football if this happens and I don't really care what anyone would think. Everyone have their own moral breaking point and this would be mine. No doubt about it.
EmperorKabir
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- Dec 8, 2004
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I've now been to 3 league Cup finals live and a champions league final. Lost all 4.
The pain is particularly tough given we get so close and never do it against these blood money sides. I think it would hurt less if we won once in a while but it's strange as our goals are the same as the blood money clubs so we have to aim so high no matter how big the disadvantage.
I feel bad for some of our players like Hugo and Harry. Their lives are great sure but just from the football perspective. I went today and it resurrected CL final pain and seeing so many spurs fans crying all over the city is Madrid and towards the end of the match.
I'm still ENIC in. I'm still hoping that their nfl and property side projects are going to bring on those extra finances to finally get us over the line. I'm still envisioning us winning against the blood money clubs and being a success story that blood money doesn't always win. I still hope that the reaching of finals but not winning is just a painful part of getting there slowly. But it's not a guarantee and we're in danger of losing our best players now... maybe after a rebuild, things might shape up. I'm still hopeful but it's the not knowing and the lack of reprieves, even a minor trophy like the League Cup which is starting to feel sore. I wouldn't be as bothered by this if we had a break (in a footballing sense) once on a while.
This club is so dramatic. In a week, we joined a breakaway league, left it, sacked somebody who used to be the greatest manager of all time, hired the youngest manager in PL history who won from behind, and lost a cup final. Utterly crazy. Wish it didn't annoy me as much. I really hope better times are coming for the club and I'll feel less bothered. I think 4th is off too after Chel$kum beat wet spam.
In the meantime, I'll do the healthy thing and focus on all the other good things in my life I'm privileged enough to have.
Take it easy fellow fans and stay optimistic as best you can.
The pain is particularly tough given we get so close and never do it against these blood money sides. I think it would hurt less if we won once in a while but it's strange as our goals are the same as the blood money clubs so we have to aim so high no matter how big the disadvantage.
I feel bad for some of our players like Hugo and Harry. Their lives are great sure but just from the football perspective. I went today and it resurrected CL final pain and seeing so many spurs fans crying all over the city is Madrid and towards the end of the match.
I'm still ENIC in. I'm still hoping that their nfl and property side projects are going to bring on those extra finances to finally get us over the line. I'm still envisioning us winning against the blood money clubs and being a success story that blood money doesn't always win. I still hope that the reaching of finals but not winning is just a painful part of getting there slowly. But it's not a guarantee and we're in danger of losing our best players now... maybe after a rebuild, things might shape up. I'm still hopeful but it's the not knowing and the lack of reprieves, even a minor trophy like the League Cup which is starting to feel sore. I wouldn't be as bothered by this if we had a break (in a footballing sense) once on a while.
This club is so dramatic. In a week, we joined a breakaway league, left it, sacked somebody who used to be the greatest manager of all time, hired the youngest manager in PL history who won from behind, and lost a cup final. Utterly crazy. Wish it didn't annoy me as much. I really hope better times are coming for the club and I'll feel less bothered. I think 4th is off too after Chel$kum beat wet spam.
In the meantime, I'll do the healthy thing and focus on all the other good things in my life I'm privileged enough to have.
Take it easy fellow fans and stay optimistic as best you can.
Gassin's finest
C'est diabolique
- May 12, 2010
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I feel like revisiting this thread after today. Recent weeks have considerably shaken my already jaded outlook on the professional game and how it's run. Owners at all levels are trying to use the tradition of the community Club to profit. The authorities are the same, whether jostling for pay offs and seniority, or implementing a game breaking VAR model. And the Super League miasma has outed this duplicity, gate keeping and corruption found throughout those in charge of our game. And with my faith in the people running this club in question, and the obvious lack of interest from those on the pitch, I'm very down about Spurs in particular.
I love football; From playing it, to watching it, to supporting it and to (hopefully) coaching it. But for the first time in my life I am seriously considering stepping away from any investment in the professional game. Because I find myself disliking everything about it.
I love football; From playing it, to watching it, to supporting it and to (hopefully) coaching it. But for the first time in my life I am seriously considering stepping away from any investment in the professional game. Because I find myself disliking everything about it.
EmperorKabir
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Trophies or not, it's been a good ride. I look ahead at the next couple of years and spurs as a club could really go so many ways. ENIC are building a thousand be homes and a hotel and maybe angling for a London NFL team in the name of spurs and possibly going to come good for money for the club.
Or they'll stay tight and worry about the debt in a post covid and brexit economy.
We may retain good players and sign more, we may lose good players and have no good coaching or replacements either.
It's all up in the air and it's important for me (us) to be careful not to attach too much concern to what is an external force that doesn't directly impact the rest of our lives very much. Enjoy it as it comes and ignore any bantering from rival fans.
All we really want to see is a good play, not the hellbent focus on trophies we aren't rich enough to win that the media are trying to tell us we should care about. Trophies would be great but let's just hope for good football for now otherwise I (we) will get too down on all this and let it interfere with our thoughts.
Nodutus
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So tonight (and probably come Sunday as well) has left me feeling very, very low. I think I’m not alone in this but this past year with the pandemic, isolation and what not together with Spurs being absolutely miserable on the pitch have given me some real questions about football at this level.
I know that this is not something new but I can’t seem to shake off the idea of players, managers, club owners etc make so much money each day, week, month and year yet we are the ones that suffers emotionally the most from their jobs. Owners can literally do whatever they want at our expense. Charge £60 for the Villa game? No problem. Players that shows no desire, no passion, not a single sign of respect to the shirt, the club and fans? Doesn’t matter – they will still cash in their huge wages. It’s all these peoples privileges that’s pissing me off. They don’t really care and quite frankly why should them? I probably wouldn’t neither if I were them to be honest.
Of course players and people working in football are only humans and have feelings too, that’s not what I’m saying, but this whole modern football age just doesn’t sit right with me. I feel like I don’t want to care about it anymore and that scares me because football has been my life for as long as I can remember.
If anyone would like to share their thoughts on this and how you are coping with it I would appreciate it as I feel really lost at the moment.
I know that this is not something new but I can’t seem to shake off the idea of players, managers, club owners etc make so much money each day, week, month and year yet we are the ones that suffers emotionally the most from their jobs. Owners can literally do whatever they want at our expense. Charge £60 for the Villa game? No problem. Players that shows no desire, no passion, not a single sign of respect to the shirt, the club and fans? Doesn’t matter – they will still cash in their huge wages. It’s all these peoples privileges that’s pissing me off. They don’t really care and quite frankly why should them? I probably wouldn’t neither if I were them to be honest.
Of course players and people working in football are only humans and have feelings too, that’s not what I’m saying, but this whole modern football age just doesn’t sit right with me. I feel like I don’t want to care about it anymore and that scares me because football has been my life for as long as I can remember.
If anyone would like to share their thoughts on this and how you are coping with it I would appreciate it as I feel really lost at the moment.
richard_gleeson
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- Jan 31, 2006
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Just remember it's only football. Man utd and arsenal wouldn't have expected their plight from 6-10 years ago. I'm pissed off just ass much as everyone else but I told myself a few years ago not to get worried about it so much. The players don't care anyway. You're basically supporting a player these days (e.g Kane needs to win a trophy etc etc). Leeds have been missing for years but now play great football. I'd rather watch good football than anything else.
PLTuck
Eternal Optimist
- Aug 22, 2006
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I support Spurs come what may. In my 40 years of support there have been periods when I've gone to lots of games, and also periods I don't even watch on TV.
It sounds obvious but it's only football. I love it and I love spurs but I don't hang my identity on it. It's entertainment (or not). Nothing more. There are many, many things further up the queue when it comes to things that affect my mental health than spurs.
If supporting spurs is seriously affecting anyone's mental health, my advice would be your mental health comes first. Walk away. Come back when your mental health is better if you want but for now look after no1.
It sounds obvious but it's only football. I love it and I love spurs but I don't hang my identity on it. It's entertainment (or not). Nothing more. There are many, many things further up the queue when it comes to things that affect my mental health than spurs.
If supporting spurs is seriously affecting anyone's mental health, my advice would be your mental health comes first. Walk away. Come back when your mental health is better if you want but for now look after no1.
Darth Vega
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I think the pandemic has put more pressure on Spurs as it's been my one and only outlet. No real opportunity to see my friends, go out for dinner, go to the gym, or do literally anything else to unwind and let off some steam. Each week/weekend has just revolved around Spurs even more so than ever before and, of course, every game has been on TV.
I think once things get back to normal and we're all in a better place mentally, the pain associated with football will ease off. I love the club and i'll always support them, but i'm slowly reducing my emotional investment. It's a hobby and there are more important things in life.
mrlilywhite
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- Sep 1, 2008
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Jeez - the last time I heard those lyrics, I was carrying my Ma on her last journey on this Earth - She had a troubled life, but was a good woman & mother. She was never a footie fan, but loved Spurs cause of me. She baked me a spurs cake once for the 87 final & brought me my 1st can of lager - Holsten bloody pils too to enjoy the final with her. I didn't make it back, I watched the game around my mates' house. Regretted that day, as it made her cry. Little things that you remember eh?Sorry for this but I just found it so fitting.
Sitting in my front room & tell Alexa on my TV to play something mellow. After a couple of songs, on comes Simon & Garfunkel, Bridge Over Troubled Water (cracking track by the way). Listening to the lyrics & it's almost as though they're written about our club, by it's Supporters
When you're weary
Feeling small
When tears are in your eyes
I'll dry them all
I'm on your side
Oh, when times get rough
And friends just can't be found
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
When you're down and out
When you're on the street
When evening falls so hard
I will comfort you
I'll take your part
Oh, when darkness comes
And pain is all around
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
nferno
Waiting for England to finally win the Euros-2024?
- Jan 7, 2007
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the thing that really bothers and hurts me is that at least those two teams have tasted success they can look back on. What do we have to show for our golden period?
All I want is us to win the PL or CL just once in my lifetime, but this team just always lets us down.
