It's not just the fact it already goes through tunnels, it's all about potential disruption and the fact that it makes the line far more difficult to look after as access becomes substantially more limited. There's so many different factors at play here that it is much more difficult than building over a chunk of line in the countryside or whatever. Beyond that, there are issues like the collapse that happened when Tesco were building on top of that train line, imagine that happening when a train full of Nuclear Waste is travelling through, there's the potential to make a 9 square mile area of Central London a no-go zone for the next 10,000 years. The odds of it actually going wrong are very slim, but Network Rail are given the authority to say yes or no because they are the best qualified to do that job and you would think of all the places in all of the country, this is going to be one of the hardest to say yes to.
One of the main problems is that a fire in a tunnel would reach temperatures that would melt the containers of the nuclear waste.
I know it's only wikipedia, and therefore potentially unreliable, but this article says differently:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_flask
I think the most important point that Phischy touched on, was that of access. Safety around nuclear waste is obviously important, but I think a lot of the perceived risks are perhaps overblown. For Network Rail, being able to schedule repairs and upgrades on their track is a very complicated and costly process, with any scheduled, let alone emergency work requiring lots of time and money, disrupting a very important artery into London.
Now you add a third party into the mix, and any scheduled weekend closures for example all have to work around there being a game at Stamford bridge. It's the little things like that, plus engineering decisions (how much access will Chelsea's design allow for equipment and repairs on the rails) that network rail will want to be a part of but the architect won't have really considered.
I know it's only wikipedia, and therefore potentially unreliable, but this article says differently:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_flask
I read a different one which said the temperature in a tunnel fire was less than 800c, but I don't know if it's right either!They can withstand 800c temperatures. There was an article that said the temperatures in that tunnel could reach well over 1000c.
How reliable the article was i don't know.
I read a different one which said the temperature in a tunnel fire was less than 800c, but I don't know if it's right either!
I think we are both agreed though that the railway authority should not allow building over the line and that's what counts.
Even in the wiki page it says that the testing is flawed as temperatures go higher than 800c.
"However, critics[who?]consider the testing flawed for various reasons. The heat test is claimed to be considerably below that of theoretical worst-case fires in a tunnel"
We'll have to see what tfl has to say. But can't see residents of chelsea being too happy about it. Hopefully it takes a while for a resolution and we can be happily in our new stadium by then.
Good lord that's bad, no wonder they originally released highly stylised, obscure renders. The massing of the roof is particularly horrendous, from the sharp lines of the brick piers and external elevations, to a random oval apex ring at the roof opening, what are they thinking?
Abramovich seems to want to create his own piece of Soviet Brutalism in London, and sadly he probably has enough money to pull it off.
Chelsea one reminds me of that council estate in Camden. Some nice people around there, just not such nice architecture.
what film did this appear in?
Thats the Alexandra Rd housing estate and is an absolutely iconic piece of architecture. I think it's fabulous.
It's been in loads of movies and TV.
Mate used to live there.
Love Trellick tower too:
I'm probably in a small minority here but I'd take Chelsea's brutalist volcano over our airport terminal any day.
We had these discussions elsewhere in general football, specifically around some of the french stadiums built recently (Lille, Lyon, Nice, Bordeaux, Marseille etc)
I'm really disappointed we didn't go for something with some architectural interest or integrity. Massive opportunity missed to create something that could be talked about around the world, googled by fans around the world etc.