Harry Kane

[TheTanguy]

And even though City are pumped full of filthy oil money, they aren't really a club that blows the doors off the vault. Their record transfer is de Bruyne for 75 mill.

And that's Euros, which was £54m at the time. As others have said, their record fee is £64m. Personally I have a hard time believing that they will pay something like £150m for a 28 year old this summer, it would be very unlike City for multiple reasons.

 

[ultimateloner]

On both a pragmatic and emotional level i think the right thing to do would be to let Kane go if a suitable offer is made.
Levy has a good track record in this so I think things will end well.

Pragmatic reasons:
1) Sell well and everyone is happy.
2) Kane or no Kane we need a total rebuild if we were to get into CL.
3) Euro-year tends to be when high-profile players come back injured or/and and take ages to get in form

Emotional reasons:
1) Kane has been a model professional and is the best player to not be directly involved in CL; neutrals will say he deserves better.
2) Kane is a Spurs legend and no matter where he goes this will be his main legacy; so it would be nice to see 'one of our own' scale new heights in his career, as we cannot provide him with that platform now.

I provide also a counter-argument to the common reasons for why we should make him stay

Reason 1) Since we are aiming to get into CL selling to a rival would mean strengtehning them
Argument 1) Above follows if we are anywhere close to being competitive but the numbers over a season doesn't lie; we are 7th despite having 2 of the most productive players up-front. This is unheard of.

Reason 2) We wont be able to replace him.
Argument 2) This is true and my view is we wont be able to replace him over 1 summer; gonna need a few if we are lucky. Given he has signed a long contract it is within our right to do so too. However I feel that on balance and given where we are at, provided we dont lose Son (in which case we are looking at relegation battle) I would take a blip of a season. Just seems the honorable thing to do.

 

[Harrier]

I highly doubt that's what we are going to hold out for. I fully predict that in the end it will be for circa 120m this season, or about 100m next season. No way are we getting close to 200 million.

The advantage of selling this season is it's a buyers market, and 120m will get you quite a lot of value, next season clubs might not be so desperate for coin. If there is one window to have money pumped into you it's this one.

I’ve seen lots online saying Levy needs to get realistic with the transfer fee.

Why should he when Neymar fetched £200m and IMHO Kane is a much more complete footballer posting better numbers in a far more competitive and physical league.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Rate optimistic or funny if you wish. We sold Bale for circa 90m 8 years ago. From hearings there is a MASSIVE CASH price on his head! And citeh as of today would not even consider that! Factor in that Daniel is seriously pissed off! Harry letting his family give extremely bad advice. Hire himself a proper ********** to manage affairs like this. Because this is not who he has around him remit. They don’t seem to have a scooby what they are doing.

And for the record, I am on the club’s side here. There is a right and a wrong way to go about this, and this isn’t it. Nobody didn’t force him to sign a very lucrative contract, with the help of Daniel getting him commercial tie-ins, which has proved very lucrative for him.

Was talking to someone about it today, and this is exactly what they said he’s been made to look a bit silly as the horse bolted before it had concrete interest!

They likened it to a situation in u15’s where every parent thinks they know best but then when it comes to academies etc they really don't have a scooby

They knew the price we would demand but didn’t do the due diligence, for what its worth I think he stays this year and then next year he either signs a new deal or he goes abroad.

 

[Erm33]

I don't think he will go this summer tbh. Can't see anyone stumping up the huge cash price.

 

[cjbyid]

Wonder if he'll do one more year and hire a proper agent in the meantime

 

[C0YS]

I’ve seen lots online saying Levy needs to get realistic with the transfer fee.

Why should he when Neymar fetched £200m and IMHO Kane is a much more complete footballer posting better numbers in a far more competitive and physical league.

87 goals in 115 games is very comparable to Kane, I think it's better. I really think Neymar has reached a point that he's almost underrated, at the time he was considered the 3rd best player in the world, and frankly ask non-spurs fans who is better, or PSG fans if they would fancy a swap. But he was also younger and sold at a time where fees were higher. Neymar is the most expensive player in the world. 120m would make Kane the third most expensive player in the world, with only Neymar and Mbappe (130m) ahead of him.

If we think that 200m is his price then we will keep him until his contract expires, but the reality is his value will depreciate and if he wants to move and we want serious money for him it will be this season or the next, we could try and hold out longer but we would risk him going for nothing, and be in a very weak negotiating position.

 

[spids]

On both a pragmatic and emotional level i think the right thing to do would be to let Kane go if a suitable offer is made.
Levy has a good track record in this so I think things will end well.

Pragmatic reasons:
1) Sell well and everyone is happy.
2) Kane or no Kane we need a total rebuild if we were to get into CL.
3) Euro-year tends to be when high-profile players come back injured or/and and take ages to get in form

Emotional reasons:
1) Kane has been a model professional and is the best player to not be directly involved in CL; neutrals will say he deserves better.
2) Kane is a Spurs legend and no matter where he goes this will be his main legacy; so it would be nice to see 'one of our own' scale new heights in his career, as we cannot provide him with that platform now.

I provide also a counter-argument to the common reasons for why we should make him stay

Reason 1) Since we are aiming to get into CL selling to a rival would mean strengtehning them
Argument 1) Above follows if we are anywhere close to being competitive but the numbers over a season doesn't lie; we are 7th despite having 2 of the most productive players up-front. This is unheard of.

Reason 2) We wont be able to replace him.
Argument 2) This is true and my view is we wont be able to replace him over 1 summer; gonna need a few if we are lucky. Given he has signed a long contract it is within our right to do so too. However I feel that on balance and given where we are at, provided we dont lose Son (in which case we are looking at relegation battle) I would take a blip of a season. Just seems the honorable thing to do.

Define what amount is suitable? I think we’d all let him go for £200M. Problem is City will want to pay under £100M. Then what do we do?

 

[TheTanguy]

Define what amount is suitable? I think we’d all let him go for £200M. Problem is City will want to pay under £100M. Then what do we do?

Tell them to fuck off ?

£100m for Kane, what an insult.

 

[C0YS]

And that's Euros, which was £54m at the time. As others have said, their record fee is £64m. Personally I have a hard time believing that they will pay something like £150m for a 28 year old this summer, it would be very unlike City for multiple reasons.

The thing about city's spending is that they haven't really bought since transfer fee inflation went through the roof. Their highest transfer fee in pounds (De Bruyne was bought when the pound was much stronger than the euro) is Rodri for 62m but before 2017 and massive price inflation he'd be the 6th most expensive player of all time. Similarly, when De Bruyne was signed he was the joint 5th most expensive player of all time (he's now joint 24th in euros and joint 38th in pounds, just to show how rapid price inflation has been). Out of the top 50 most expensive signings only Real Madrid have bought more, Man city with 7.

Man city spend money, but it's generally been distributed pretty evenly with players and the fact that they haven't had to sign a major offensive player since Marez (2018) contributes to their record fee being as low as it is. The market is likely to return to more reasonable times post-covid. Man city and PSG (and maybe Chelsea, Bayern and Man utd to a lesser extent) are the only teams who can still afford to spend over 100m on a player.

Let's be clear here, Man city have been in contact with Kane, I'm pretty certain of that. Guardiola's statements in particular strongly suggest that. They will be readying an offer, it will be over 100m. It probably wont be 150m. Transfermarkt.com isn't a super accurate resource, but right now Mbappe is the most valuable player in the world according to them, and he is worth 160m euros or 140m pounds. Harry Kane is the second most expensive player on the list, with 120m euros or roughly 105m pounds. Now this is because transfermarkt, understand that the market is reacting to covid, that there isn't enough money circulating to have 200m transfers anymore, or where average CL quality players cost 30m - 60m

My point is, if we get an offer for 150m that would be much higher than I'd expect when considering the current state of the market. But also 150m would make us serious players in the window if we wanted to, even 100m will. Is it worth the trade off? It wouldn't be my choice but if Kane is going, now is the time if we want to extract value. Compering old records and all that is highly theoretical because COVID has changed everything. City can spend that money, if we wanted to maybe branch out abroad, we wouldn't even get 100m, but maybe a few player exchanges.

 

[Tucker]

Define what amount is suitable? I think we’d all let him go for £200M. Problem is City will want to pay under £100M. Then what do we do?

You go into Tesco, you want to buy a fredo, the man behind the till says it’ll cost you 20p, you want to pay him 10p.

What happens next?

 

[Johno1470]

You go into Tesco, you want to buy a fredo, the man behind the till says it’ll cost you 20p, you want to pay him 10p.

What happens next?

The Fredo demands that it leaves for 10p and the man behind the till agrees.

 

[Blake Griffin]

i think best case scenario we get gabriel jesus in return along with enough to sign grealish.

 

[topper]

You go into Tesco, you want to buy a fredo, the man behind the till says it’ll cost you 20p, you want to pay him 10p.

What happens next?

You think to yourself 'when did I become a cheap wanker haggling over 10p on a bar of chocolate?' put the Fredo back and get a fuck-off mega block of Cadbury's

 

[spids]

You go into Tesco, you want to buy a fredo, the man behind the till says it’ll cost you 20p, you want to pay him 10p.

What happens next?

And that was the point I was making to someone who was saying we should sell him if we get a suitable offer. It’s not that simple to define what a suitable offer is.

 

[jolsnogross]

The right move for Harry is to leave and to kick up a fuss to make it happen. He's a bit hindered by wanting to stay in the Premier League, but he's got two reference points driving this decision: 1) we're a mess, have bounced ridiculously among managerial 'philosophies', and his 29-year-old mate is his most recent manager; and 2) the array of talent we've sold over a decade or more have thrived and won elsewhere. Trippier and Eriksen are the most recent examples, but domestic ones include Campbell, Sheringham, Berbatov, Carrick, Walker. The most positive spin on football prospects at Spurs at the moment doesn't survive much scrutiny. He doesn't want to be the Darren Anderton of his generation, compared to a long list of players who moved on and won elsewhere. Bale showed you can make this happen if you're insistent on it happening. And it makes little sense for Spurs to have their top player sowing discord.

From Levy's perspective, he shouldn't sell this summer unless the new manager sanctions it. And even then, it's a tough call unless the new manager is Rodgers or Poch (IMO).

 

[Griff001]

i think best case scenario we get gabriel jesus in return along with enough to sign grealish.

Would rather the cash to be honest, really don't rate Jesus that highly.

 

[Klinsmannic]

Would rather the cash to be honest, really don't rate Jesus that highly.

All the flair has been coached out of him. He was more exciting when he first signed for them.

 

[king26]

if kane was reason for mourinho he should leave no player is bigger than the club ask fergie

 

[sundanceyid10]

What’s best for Spurs is to act with class.

There is nothing classless about telling a player who has been paid a fortune that he has to honour the contract he signed freely. To many snowflakes on here sometimes no wonder we get pushed around by other clubs.