Joachim Andersen

[EQP]

Does Anderson have more to his game than the long ball? Genuinely don't know much about him beyond that

Good anticipation, very comfortable on the ball, good leadership and organizes the back very well. Having a head coach like NES who develops CB's will benefit Andersen greatly. Also, his long ball will come in handy. Especially in 352 with attacking FB's, his ability to accurately find the Doherty or Reguillon is an added threat to our attack.

 

[Finchyid]

Why do people even think we could get Skriniar anyway? It's easy to say we should sign him but we're a conference league team now. He plays for the defending champions in the champions league. Why would he come here? Maybe under Jose we had the pull but not anymore. A player who was loaned to Fulham and a player who plays at Bologna are much more realistic for us.

We wouldn’t get him (skrinar) now he’s gone to Chelsea

 

[ButchCassidy]

We wouldn’t get him (skrinar) now he’s gone to Chelsea

What? I haven’t seen him linked to Chelsea much at all

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

I know that his weakness is considered to be speed and mobility. But I haven’t seen him in action much at all…….how big a weakness is it? Are we talking Toby pace? Or Fazio? Or worse? Does he turn slower than an ocean liner or is he comparatively nimble for a player of his size? Is his positioning good enough to compensate?

 

[The Scarecrow]

But you know which one would levy choose

Paratici*
He makes the decisions now, so please take the mindless Levy bashing to the relevant thread.

 

[Franchise60]

Skriniar was on his way out of Inter last year after falling out of favour with Conte due to a lack of consistency, which is why we were interested in buying him. 1 successful season doesn’t mean he’s proven top quality, and he’s still a gamble - like Sanchez.

I’m not saying I don’t like him, I’m saying you’re ignoring the large number of similarities because you rate Skriniar. You’re making it sound like he’s guaranteed to be a success, and Andersen is a guaranteed failure.

Skriniar has more than one successful season though. You are confusing him struggling to adapt to a new 3ATB system (that he later excelled in while winning a title), with having a Sanchez like career before this most recent season.

Skriniar was excelling for Sampdoria 5 years ago and his stock continued to rise at Inter until a brief hiccup learning a new system. Now he is back to a level Sanchez has never touched.

I expect we’ll sign Andersen and I will be happy enough with that. Skriniar would be a signing of another level though.

 

[cookiemonster]

Skriniar has more than one successful season though. You are confusing him struggling to adapt to a new 3ATB system (that he later excelled in while winning a title), with having a Sanchez like career before this most recent season.

Skriniar was excelling for Sampdoria 5 years ago and his stock continued to rise at Inter until a brief hiccup learning a new system. Now he is back to a level Sanchez has never touched.

I expect we’ll sign Andersen and I will be happy enough with that. Skriniar would be a signing of another level though.

Mate we dont do another level

 

[Aphex]

Skriniar was on his way out of Inter last year after falling out of favour with Conte due to a lack of consistency, which is why we were interested in buying him. 1 successful season doesn’t mean he’s proven top quality, and he’s still a gamble - like Sanchez.

I’m not saying I don’t like him, I’m saying you’re ignoring the large number of similarities because you rate Skriniar. You’re making it sound like he’s guaranteed to be a success, and Andersen is a guaranteed failure.

Sorry but this is completely inaccurate.

Skriniar is levels above Sanchez, the comparison is bewildering. As another posted mentioned, Skriniar is one of the top CBs in Italy and has been for a number of years, he was available last summer because he didn't suit Conte's formation and because they were skint.

As it happens he fought his way back in and contributed hugely to their first league title in years.

Skriniar is much more guaranteed to be a success than Andersen is, he's another level of ability and talent.

Andersen may prove a good buy, but he is unlikely to have the transformative effect on our defence that Skriniar would.

 

[aussiespursguy]

There’s a key difference between Skriniar and a couple of our expensive signings in Janssen and Ndomblele.

Skriniar has 5 years experience of playing in top flight football and has been a member of a very strong Inter side for the last 4 years.

Whereas both Janssen and Ndombele came from lower league football and only had 1-2 years exposure to top flight football. They both struggled with the physical demands of the EPL resulting in Janssen rarely featuring and being sold, whereas Ndombele’s 1st season was a complete right off and even his 2nd season wasn’t great as he still struggles with poor fitness levels.

Signing Skriniar for good money is much safer than signing players with a similar background to Janssen and Ndombele.

What?

 

[Pebble Dash]

What?

At the time Janssen was an expensive signing at circa £18m

 

[EQP]

I know that his weakness is considered to be speed and mobility. But I haven’t seen him in action much at all…….how big a weakness is it? Are we talking Toby pace? Or Fazio? Or worse? Does he turn slower than an ocean liner or is he comparatively nimble for a player of his size? Is his positioning good enough to compensate?

Quicker than Dier and Toby not as quick as Sanchez. Waaay more mobile and is quicker to react than Dier. Also, would probably be our best ball carrying/ball playing CB, he's very comfortable dribbling the ball out of the back and due to his accurate passing, can start attacks from deep or draw opposition players in and then launch a pass out to the wings.

 

[aussiespursguy]

At the time Janssen was an expensive signing at circa £18m

The same season we signed Sissoko for 30m?

 

[Aphex]

 

[DeanoD]

I liked the idea of Andersen at the beginning of the window, but we seem to be talking to CBs off the next shelf up now, and plenty of them appear to be attainable at a similar price.

Think he would still be a good option if we end up going for a second new CB, but he would seem a little underwhelming after links to Romero, Kounde, Skriniar etc if we only get one.

 

[Joely]

Not convinced Andersen is completely off the table. If Romero does arrive, do wonder whether they'd want to pair him with someone who has experience of the league. With Toby apparently wanting to leave, club looking to shift Sanchez and possibly Dier (not good enough to start even if he stays), they may see value in Andersen, especially if the Kounde interest doesn't go anywhere.

 

[gavspur]

He’d certainly add the passing range to the back 4 or 3, that would still be needed.

 

[Majick]

I definitely get the impression that he would have been a Hitchen/Levy signing - cheap enough, pretty young and some experience in the league. Paratici's net is cast wider and reaches greater depths.

Perhaps Andersen's still on the radar, but the total lack of any chat around him compared to - it seems - half the defenders in Italy suggests that he's dropped a long way down the list.

 

[SpursSince1980]

Not convinced Andersen is completely off the table. If Romero does arrive, do wonder whether they'd want to pair him with someone who has experience of the league. With Toby apparently wanting to leave, club looking to shift Sanchez and possibly Dier (not good enough to start even if he stays), they may see value in Andersen, especially if the Kounde interest doesn't go anywhere.

Well, if Toby and Dav leave, and we were fortunate enough to land Romero and Andersen, that would give us 4 solid CBs (Dier, Rodon, Andersen and Romero). With the flexibility of playing a back three (Japhet, Davies). Also, if the young Japanese lad joins, that would leave us with 7 chaps who can play centrally in defense.

Wonder if the plan is to stick with Japhet and Tomiyasu at RB? Use someone like Doherty when playing with a back 3?

So hard to say with the way Paratici goes about his business. With so many irons in the fire, it's difficult to discern how the various targets may fit into NES's playing strategy. Guess much will become clear over the next two to three weeks.

 

[EQP]

He’d certainly add the passing range to the back 4 or 3, that would still be needed.

He would probably be our best long range passing CB if we were to sign him up. For the money involved, he would be an upgrade on Dier and Sanchez.

 

[Joely]

that would give us 4 solid CBs (Dier, Rodon, Andersen and Romero)

We really need rid of Dier at some point. Think he is far from a solid CB. It may be asking too much to make so many changes for one position this window but further down the line, have to shift him imo.