Jordy Clasie

[GobbyJJ]

Heard one report stating that he'd be available for £5 million. Top quality player. Playing style similar to Modric. Would be a LVG signing

 

[Marcus_spur]

If we can get Clasie for 5 I´d grab him faster than HR would a great professional. Fsk, for 15 I´d still do it. I thought Eriksen for 11 was a steal, but Clasie for 5 is ridiculous. If we can get Clasie, Davies and Schär this summer, without losing anyone central to the team I´d be giddy as a schoolgirl.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

If we can get Clasie for 5 I´d grab him faster than HR would a great professional. Fsk, for 15 I´d still do it. I thought Eriksen for 11 was a steal, but Clasie for 5 is ridiculous. If we can get Clasie, Davies and Schär this summer, without losing anyone central to the team I´d be giddy as a schoolgirl.

Saw a tweet earlier that puts that Eriksen deal into perspective...

Eriksen: 9goals and 8 assists, £11million
Ozil: 5 goals and 10 assists, £40million

Enough said!!

 

[TheAmerican]

I don't think Clasie is ready for the EPL. He is likely to get passed up for Strootman's spot on the national team by one of Fer (most likely imo), Schaars (will probably play next to Fer), De Guzman, de Jong, or Vilhena. He isn't physical enough (and doesn't contribute enough defensively) to be a starter in van Gaal's team, and I wouldn't expect him to have an impact on our squad for a few years. That being said, he would be a good purchase at £5m.

 

[Karlinho]

Saw a tweet earlier that puts that Eriksen deal into perspective...

Eriksen: 9goals and 8 assists, £11million
Ozil: 5 goals and 10 assists, £40million

Enough said!!

 

[Spursh]

As much as a I like Clasie and believe that we're in need of that 'metronome' type midfielder, I think with Van Gaal in charge, we could develop some of our current younger midfielders like Bentaleb and Carroll to be effective in this pivotal position, as they both have the qualities and potential to do so (especially the former).

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

As much as a I like Clasie and believe that we're in need of that 'metronome' type midfielder, I think with Van Gaal in charge, we could develop some of our current younger midfielders like Bentaleb and Carroll to be effective in this pivotal position, as they both have the qualities and potential to do so (especially the former).

And Holtby, please, for the love of the invisible man in the sky, don't forget little Lewis Holtby. He's better than both the players you name

 

[Barry Mead]

I don't think Clasie is ready for the EPL. He is likely to get passed up for Strootman's spot on the national team by one of Fer (most likely imo), Schaars (will probably play next to Fer), De Guzman, de Jong, or Vilhena. He isn't physical enough (and doesn't contribute enough defensively) to be a starter in van Gaal's team, and I wouldn't expect him to have an impact on our squad for a few years. That being said, he would be a good purchase at £5m.

Not physical enough? have you actually ever watched him play? his tackling is one of his strengths. I know football is a game opinions but to say he isn'y physical enough is beyond me

 

[WiganSpur]

As much as a I like Clasie and believe that we're in need of that 'metronome' type midfielder, I think with Van Gaal in charge, we could develop some of our current younger midfielders like Bentaleb and Carroll to be effective in this pivotal position, as they both have the qualities and potential to do so (especially the former).

Holtby as well. That's why I can't understand the clamour that we absolutely need such a midfielder.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Holtby as well. That's why I can't understand the clamour that we absolutely need such a midfielder.

Nicely said brother, glad I'm not alone on that one

 

[Marcus_spur]

Holtby as well. That's why I can't understand the clamour that we absolutely need such a midfielder.

I love Holtby, and believe in him, but as much as it pains me I must admit I have my doubts about Dembele and Capoue. If one or both of them leave, I can see a huge upgrade in Clasie. Besides , no one loves the rotating midfield three more than lvg. Seeing sides with a three of:
Holtby/Paulinho/Eriksen/Clasie/Sandro/Bentaleb makes my mouth water.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

I love Holtby, and believe in him, but as much as it pains me I must admit I have my doubts about Dembele and Capoue. If one or both of them leave, I can see a huge upgrade in Clasie. Besides , no one loves the rotating midfield three more than lvg. Seeing sides with a three of:
Holtby/Paulinho/Eriksen/Clasie/Sandro/Bentaleb makes my mouth water.

I can actually see Chiriches becoming a CDM under LVG, and by that I mean a CDM that drops into defence when the 2 CB's split.

 

[DaSpurs]

Holtby as well. That's why I can't understand the clamour that we absolutely need such a midfielder.

Big Holtby fan, but he actually while being slightly larger than Clasie is actually worse defensively. He's excellent in feeding the attack, but he just does not get stuck in enough. I also have yet to be impressed with Bentaleb. Solid enough utility player, but he offers nothing unique and is highly predictable in his ball movement. I'd like to see Carroll come good though, he could make it at Spurs.

Erego, the point of all this: Clasie offers many things we lack in a single player whose role it is to connect everything yet not sacrifice in defense. We have not had such a player since the departure of Modric.

 

[TheAmerican]

Not physical enough? have you actually ever watched him play? his tackling is one of his strengths. I know football is a game opinions but to say he isn'y physical enough is beyond me

His work rate is incredible, but he simply isn't as versatile as Strootman. van Gaal needs someone who can play in front and dictate the tempo from in back. He would be great to partner with a more creative player, but van Gaal will be looking for a player to work on both defense and offense (a real Gerrard-type), and Clasie has failed to meet expectations on the international stage. He hasn't held onto the ball well (lacks physicality) and has gone completely missing in many of his caps. He needs to mature his game a bit before he is ready for the next step (which is why I also don't think he is ready for the EPL). I definitely think he will get there some day, as he most definitely has the drive and skillset to get there.

 

[Marcus_spur]

His work rate is incredible, but he simply isn't as versatile as Strootman. van Gaal needs someone who can play in front and dictate the tempo from in back. He would be great to partner with a more creative player, but van Gaal will be looking for a player to work on both defense and offense (a real Gerrard-type), and Clasie has failed to meet expectations on the international stage. He hasn't held onto the ball well (lacks physicality) and has gone completely missing in many of his caps. He needs to mature his game a bit before he is ready for the next step (which is why I also don't think he is ready for the EPL). I definitely think he will get there some day, as he most definitely has the drive and skillset to get there.

Indeed, but I believe that the time is near. I also cant see us being able to get him in 6-18 months when he really breaks through.
Besides, LVG likes him.

 

[TheAmerican]

Indeed, but I believe that the time is near. I also cant see us being able to get him in 6-18 months when he really breaks through.
Besides, LVG likes him.

for £5m, he is a no-brainer, I just wouldn't place any expectations on him to come in and have an immediate impact.

 

[DaSpurs]

His work rate is incredible, but he simply isn't as versatile as Strootman. van Gaal needs someone who can play in front and dictate the tempo from in back. He would be great to partner with a more creative player, but van Gaal will be looking for a player to work on both defense and offense (a real Gerrard-type), and Clasie has failed to meet expectations on the international stage. He hasn't held onto the ball well (lacks physicality) and has gone completely missing in many of his caps. He needs to mature his game a bit before he is ready for the next step (which is why I also don't think he is ready for the EPL). I definitely think he will get there some day, as he most definitely has the drive and skillset to get there.

Well, unfortunately we're still not quite to a level where we can overlook a player because he has sufficient weaknesses to exclude him from the Dutch national team at the age of 20. To me at least, he looks like what we need and good enough to do it for us for the time being and with room to develop.

As massive of a fan I've been of Eriksen since 2010, and as thrilled as I was to see him join us last summer, I felt he had weaknesses then and still think he has some areas he needs work in. Regardless, I'm even more excited now that he'll be continuing to develop with us and would love to see Clasie do the same.

 

[DaSpurs]

for £5m, he is a no-brainer, I just wouldn't place any expectations on him to come in and have an immediate impact.

That's fair. I said something similar about Lamela against the majority (albeit with no such even remotely favorable price), so it'd be entirely hypocritical of me to argue with you on such a hesitation.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Not physical enough? have you actually ever watched him play? his tackling is one of his strengths. I know football is a game opinions but to say he isn'y physical enough is beyond me

I wouldn't have worded it as you did, but he's definitely physical for a guy his stature. He's got a squatty build and he's had over 90 tackles and 60 interceptions this year in the Eredivisie. Granted, it's a less physically imposing league, but it shows that he's not afraid to do the dirty work in defense. I would love to have him as a DLP given that he's obviously got passing talent but he can also contribute and will contribute by breaking up play effectively.

 

[DaSpurs]

I wouldn't have worded it as you did, but he's definitely physical for a guy his stature. He's got a squatty build and he's had over 90 tackles and 60 interceptions this year in the Eredivisie. Granted, it's a less physically imposing league, but it shows that he's not afraid to do the dirty work in defense. I would love to have him as a DLP given that he's obviously got passing talent but he can also contribute and will contribute by breaking up play effectively.

Yeah he's not gonna win in the air against a six foot plusser, so that will always be a strike against him in the defensive analysis column, but there's no doubt that his defensive contribution and willingness to get in on a strong tackle is quite stunning for a player of his size. The major advantage from him is that from such a point in play he goes on from winning the ball to quickly transitioning to attack. This is very much a weakness of ours, even a crippling and dehibilitating weakness. Not a doubt in my mind that if we had this same squad, no high back line, and a player like Clasie or Mateo Kovacic, that we'd be sitting in fourth position right now.