Jose Mourinho

[Dillspur]

The issue some have is apparently you can’t support Jose because that’s shitting on Poch??
I love what poch did for us but I also believe that he had run his race and facts prove that.
I am comfortable enough to support Jose with worrying that I am doing Poch some sort of misjustice.
It’s not going to change so get on board and support the club is my theory

for instance - why is the eriksen thread still open? He’s gone, that’s that - why are we still obsessing over a player that has gone - probably waiting for him to tear it up so people can start saying we shouldn’t have sold him, he was the best blah blah blah

I agree, I just can't stand the constant sniping at a Poch.

And if I've given the impression to anyone that I want Jose to fail, then you're wrong nothing would give me more pleasure than to see him win a title.

 

[jurgen]

To reduce the argument to Poch vs Mourinho misses the bald elephant in the room, and I say that as a Poch fanboy. Of course the rewriting of Poch's tenure to say he didn't play good football, couldn't survive without Kane and so on is a load of nonsense, but the same goes for calling Mourinho a washed up Allardyce figure.

We've been in a real state and yet somehow we're grinding out results at the moment which I think is testament to Mourinho's experience, and something Poch didn't seem able to solve in the end.

On the flipside, given our obvious financial limitations, will a Mourinho Spurs reach the same footballing heights as Poch's Spurs did? His new brand of football will need to be much better than what's been served up so far, but hopefully time and reinforcements can produce that.

Over to the little fella..

 

[chelmyid]

I agree, I just can't stand the constant sniping at a Poch.

And if I've given the impression to anyone that I want Jose to fail, then you're wrong nothing would give me more pleasure than to see him win a title.

It certainly wasn’t aimed at any individual - just this feeling that some posters have to be ‘in a camp’
Poch was great for us, better than great - but now is time to move forward with (whether style is liked or not) one of if not the most decorated managers in world football. Why wouldn’t anyone want to get behind that notion is what baffles me?!
I feel that the same posters would have been saying negs whoever we got in and I really dont see how that helps our great football club

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Had the exact same arguments just before Poch left the club, when we were discussing potential replacements and Mourinho‘s name was thrown in the hat.

I see some of the anti-Jose cockroaches have crawled to the surface. And I’m not talking about the members who are just a bit concerned about the football we are playing at the moment and whether it will be permanent or not, I’m talking about those of you who actively want Jose to fail.

Let’s set the record straight once again. Come hell or high water, Jose’s goal is always and will always be to get a good result. If you don’t know Jose and you don’t understand his ethos and mentality, you’d think the RB game was a bad result. It’s not. Not in Mourinho’s world. Arguably we could’ve won the game had we been clinical and taken our chances but it is what it is. We will be going for a 2-1 victory in the return leg and I can almost guarantee there will be no complaints regardless of the “style” of football we play if we manage to get the result.

Winning is all that matters to the man, and that’s why he has won 28 titles in his career. I couldn’t give a shit if we touch the ball twice in a game and win, that’s all that matters to me. I want titles, I want the glory of winning things, that’s all that was missing under Poch.

Keep that in mind and please slag Mourinho off when we do inevitably win those titles, because I can guarantee there will be more nights like this, and as long as the end game is still intact, I’ll always be happy with JM’s tactics and the football we play under him.

 

[wrd]

More good work from Jose in the press conference https://www.football.london/tottenh...tottenham-press-conference-live-jose-17788334

 

[spursfan77]

More good work from Jose in the press conference https://www.football.london/tottenh...tottenham-press-conference-live-jose-17788334

Rallying the troops!

More from Mourinho on that blanket analogy
“It’s so cold now. (Laughs) We are so strong that we don’t need anything, we can sleep in difficult circumstances, if you know what I mean. We don’t need to be in a very comfortable place. We rest when we can, which is not a lot. I was already with someone from BT and I thank him already to choose the game at 12.30, I can thank you also to choose the Sunday at Aston Villa before Leipzig.

“We rest when we can, the way we can and we go to every match ready for everything. Thats the spirit we want to keep. It was really hard for the boys to be in this position, I remember when I arrived, my first conversation with them was don’t look at the table.

“Forget you’re 12 points behind fourth, don’t think of any targets, top six or we just want to go match after match and see where this can take us. Well after three months we went from closer to the relegation positions, which obviously was never a problem. But we went from there to be one point behind the top four. Amazing effort by everyone. So now that we’re in this position, we earned the right to fight for it. It’s difficult. In this moment, probably lots of people think impossible. OK but we’re going to fight. Looking at this match, the only thing that matters now, ‘lets go’.”

 

[wrd]

Rallying the troops!

More from Mourinho on that blanket analogy
“It’s so cold now. (Laughs) We are so strong that we don’t need anything, we can sleep in difficult circumstances, if you know what I mean. We don’t need to be in a very comfortable place. We rest when we can, which is not a lot. I was already with someone from BT and I thank him already to choose the game at 12.30, I can thank you also to choose the Sunday at Aston Villa before Leipzig.

“We rest when we can, the way we can and we go to every match ready for everything. Thats the spirit we want to keep. It was really hard for the boys to be in this position, I remember when I arrived, my first conversation with them was don’t look at the table.

“Forget you’re 12 points behind fourth, don’t think of any targets, top six or we just want to go match after match and see where this can take us. Well after three months we went from closer to the relegation positions, which obviously was never a problem. But we went from there to be one point behind the top four. Amazing effort by everyone. So now that we’re in this position, we earned the right to fight for it. It’s difficult. In this moment, probably lots of people think impossible. OK but we’re going to fight. Looking at this match, the only thing that matters now, ‘lets go’.”

Yeah unfortunately Poch got into a habit of demanding a player to be 100% to the cause and cast them aside if not but then undermined it himself with how he answered press conferences, almost honest to a fault. Jose demands 100% to the cause but every press conference he is basically creating an us and them narrative, showing he's in the trenches and he's 100% committed to spurs.

Even that answer to about whether it's going to be special going to the bridge he nailed the answer, showing there's an easy option for himself to walk home but instead going back with the team, showing he's making things more difficult for himself just to show his commitment to the boys. I think he was making a point because from what I read (possibly in The Athletic) that Poch decided to go back to barca after the final instead of travelling back with the team and it rubbed a few of them the wrong way.

 

[dirtyh]

jose is one of those personalities that's an absolute wanker unless they're at your club or on your side. seeing him close up week in week out just shows his quality. given our situation getting us where we currently are is an absolute miracle and way beyond blind luck and i can't wait to see him operate when he's had time and a fully fit squad to help.

he's got me 1000% on board and we're lucky to have him.

 

[Typical Spurs]

Its just a style that's alien to us as fans. Other than the Werner chance and the first 2 mins of the game, despite all their possession and intent I thought we were ok defensively.

On the face of it we've been outplayed by most sides since José has been with us. We rarely dominate the ball.

Biggest trick Pep ever pulled was convincing the world there was only one way to play football.

Since that moment fans all over the world have fawned over tiki taka and considered succes only achievable through some variation of possession based football. It being the only way to win or dominate or even play attractive. But actually we've seen first hand so many more examples of teams "winning the possession stats" but being utterly toothless. Both teams under AVB and Poch at times would focus on possession and wait for the opposition to fall asleep before taking a shot at goal but actually we'd get hit with a simple counter and concede.In fact one of our most attractive teams of recent years was Redknapps counter attacking side.

When are people going to learn... football is not only playing one way, if it was it would be boring as hell. There are a lot of different ways to playamd JM wants to play counter attacking football. He wants to sit deep and play fast and score. So when we play that way, and the media and pundits misinform us by saying we've played poorly or we've been dominated just remember - whoever ruled that only possession football was the appropriate way. The players are doing what JM wants and we're winning games. Look at the stats, we're commonly having more shots on target than opposition too so all this crap about us being dominated is irrelevant unless we're being beaten soundly. Domination doesn't win games, goals do.

This is a brilliant post.

Had the same conversation with my mates (who think José is useless). I explained that to get into the opposition's final 3rd it doesn't have to be by playing 20 pass flowing move. If we can play the right direct balls (Particularly into channels/corners) chances are we'll win throw ins/corners and have made up that same ground than a lovely passing move would.

 

[kmk]

His face ?

 

[totty]

Some posters are leaving me with the impression that they want JM to fail. That means Spurs fail. I just dont get it.

Winnered this post, totally agreed some ppl just want Jose to fail so they could say Levy shouldnt have sacked Mauricio.

Are these same ppl fans of the club or fans of an individual???

No sane Yid would begrudge Pochy for what he’s done with us, i’ll give him a song the first time he returns to the Lane as opposing manager but the moment the first whistle goes, he is an enemy.

The Spectre of The Magical One looms high above any manager who took over from him be it Jose, Howe, Nagelsmann or Ancelotti and this can only be detrimental to our club

 

[markiespurs]

Yeah unfortunately Poch got into a habit of demanding a player to be 100% to the cause and cast them aside if not but then undermined it himself with how he answered press conferences, almost honest to a fault. Jose demands 100% to the cause but every press conference he is basically creating an us and them narrative, showing he's in the trenches and he's 100% committed to spurs.

Even that answer to about whether it's going to be special going to the bridge he nailed the answer, showing there's an easy option for himself to walk home but instead going back with the team, showing he's making things more difficult for himself just to show his commitment to the boys. I think he was making a point because from what I read (possibly in The Athletic) that Poch decided to go back to barca after the final instead of travelling back with the team and it rubbed a few of them the wrong way.

There were a lot of reports circulating during the last 6 months or so of Poch becoming more and more distant with the players. One report I saw even mentioned that he had started to watch training from his office via CCTV, instead of being out on the pitch with the players.

I’m really liking the them and us mentality he is creating at the club, it’s something that all winning teams have.

 

[King of Otters]

1 mistake cost us in the week, a top side at the top of their game with one of Europe’s best strikers couldn’t score past us in open play.

not really wasn’t that bad.

mad for style of play, it’s not great butit’s been like that for well over a year now. Last year we lost almost 20 games.

mourinho is doing well and I reckon given him a supported transfer window and a ore-season - we’ll compete on more levels than we have seen before.

problem is we need to be patient

I'm sorry, but it wasn't one mistake that cost us. It was only a combination of poor finishing and heroic goalkeeping that meant that tie wasn't done and dusted after 60 minutes.

We were extremely lucky to come away from that game having only conceded one goal.

 

[TOLBINY]

Jose has my 100% support - will he succeed at Tottenham - who knows? But I shall not be passing judgement on him for at least another year, by which time he will have had a pre-season and two more transfer windows.

 

[HildoSpur]

Some posters are leaving me with the impression that they want JM to fail. That means Spurs fail. I just dont get it.

Some people are idiots.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

Some people are idiots.

Maybe we just want to be entertained watching our team play. It's what Tottenham is all about.

 

[midoshairband]

Was disappointed we had two DMs and 2 CBS on the bench yesterday, leaving out Sessgnon and Parrott as it left us without players who could chip in with angoal

i agree, but Jose has made it clear that Parrott isn’t ready. that appears to mean as a starter or a sub, so i wouldn’t expect to see him soon. which is a shame.

 

[wrd]

Maybe we just want to be entertained watching our team play. It's what Tottenham is all about.

I vastly value performance and entertainment over trophies and the dream is that you obtain both however isn't it unfair to expect Jose to be producing entertaining football this early in let-alone with the circumstances we've now had put on us losing our best two players. I could maybe understand people being irritated if he had inherited an entertaining team and had removed that element but he hasn't done that, we weren't playing good football.

If we're playing poor football this time next year then I'll be as disappointed as anybody but I can't understand why people can't see that the time to be critical of that aspect isn't now.

 

[Metalhead]

jose is one of those personalities that's an absolute wanker unless they're at your club or on your side. seeing him close up week in week out just shows his quality. given our situation getting us where we currently are is an absolute miracle and way beyond blind luck and i can't wait to see him operate when he's had time and a fully fit squad to help.

he's got me 1000% on board and we're lucky to have him.

Tell you one thing, anyone who thinks that he has reverted back to the same old Mourinho should watch the beginning of the press conference. He was in great humour.

 

[Bobby TwoShots]

Some posters are leaving me with the impression that they want JM to fail. That means Spurs fail. I just dont get it.

I think we all want the same thing, just disagree on how we should be get there. Having a grumble about your manager or the tactics doesn't make you less of a fan. Unless you live in North Korea. Then you should stop it, immediately.