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Jan 28, 2011
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The club can do what they want but if fans think a Milan reject is gonna come in and immediately replace Kane’s output they will be disappointed. I think it would be much more wise to get a Son rotation option for the wing and rely on Son for goals up front.
Sonny isn’t a centre forward. Much better to get a rotational player for a position we actually need cover for and play our best players in their best positions.
 

ATZR

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Swear there was a point last season where he was scoring every game for them? Must have done nothing since

scored 30 in 42 in Serie A and Coppa Italia for the 2018 season

Hi guys, Inter fan here.

I've watched Piatek pretty closely in his time in Italy. I was very surprised to hear Spurs are allegedly after him.

For those that don't know, Genoa brought Piatek to Serie A in 2018/19. He had a great 6 months then went to Milan for €35M in January, 10x the price Genoa bought him for,

He had 13 goals in the first 18 league games at Genoa, followed by 9 in 19 at Milan. This season he's scored just 4 goals in 18 games, I believe 3 of them penalties.

At times he's looked like a very dynamic goalscorer, capable of scoring a variety of finishes - long range goals, headers, tidy finishes and goals after dribbles and making his own opportunities. At other times he's looked like an incredibly limited poacher, entirely reliant on supply from teammates. I suspect it's partly confidence/form and partly the system he's utilised in.

He does seem a lot more comfortable playing alongside another forward. Most of his success came in Genoa's 352 system, playing next to highly-rated forward Christian Kouame - and I'm referring to his contribution beyond goals. Playing as a lone forward in Milan's 433 system has exposed some big holes in his game such as a lack of pace and involvement.

It's still hard to define him properly because he's only been around for 1.5 years and his confidence is all but gone. But he seems to have regressed since moving to Milan. The environment there is very toxic right now and perhaps the pressure is affecting him negatively too.

It's hard to tell what kind of player you guys will get. I think it says a lot that Milan are willing to let him go after just 1 year at the club - both about how poorly Milan are run, and how limited Piatek has been.

From what I can tell, Kane's involvement seems a big part of how Spurs play. With some confidence, some good supply and some combination play from the likes of Moura and Son, I think Piatek could be a decent purchase. However, if the overall "disconnected" quality of football continues, then I suspect Piatek won't be of much help unfortunately.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Sonny isn’t a centre forward. Much better to get a rotational player for a position we actually need cover for and play our best players in their best positions.

has he not covered well for Kane’s absence in the past? To the point many were saying we play better without Kane in the team?

Also point is Kane doesn’t/won’t get rotated when he’s fit again. He’s too important to the team.

If we get a Son rotational option he can play with Kane and will therefore see more game time and not lose sharpness and motivation like Llorente/Janssen have previously
 
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Gbspurs

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Jan 27, 2011
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The poor **** hasn’t even signed for us yet and some of you are giving him abuse. This fan base is fucking aids.

Social media has a lot to answer to in this regards. The "Bantz" culture has led to fans becoming fickle as they don't want to vary from the general consensus for fear of standing out and therefore being a target of ridicule. Its like school, which is no coincidence given the large majority of football fans on social media are probably teenage boys.

Similarly the ability to "recall" historic comments from internet via a post history sees people again not wanting to deviate from the perceived norm.
 

Danny1

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Dec 6, 2006
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We are a funny bunch aint we. We get linked with a striker which everyone has been screaming for and we have a whole heap of people not happy.

Anyway, on to Piatek, I have watched him about 5 times in all and yes he is a very clinical finisher but one thing I haven't seen mentioned is how hard he works. In all the games I watched, he defended very well from the front and was a bit of a terrier, the type of striker that defenders get annoyed with as he won't leave them alone. I think this is a massively important aspect to what Mourinho wants, as currently as a team we do not defend well.
 

iddebu52

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Jun 5, 2007
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Hi guys, Inter fan here.

I've watched Piatek pretty closely in his time in Italy. I was very surprised to hear Spurs are allegedly after him.

For those that don't know, Genoa brought Piatek to Serie A in 2018/19. He had a great 6 months then went to Milan for €35M in January, 10x the price Genoa bought him for,

He had 13 goals in the first 18 league games at Genoa, followed by 9 in 19 at Milan. This season he's scored just 4 goals in 18 games, I believe 3 of them penalties.

At times he's looked like a very dynamic goalscorer, capable of scoring a variety of finishes - long range goals, headers, tidy finishes and goals after dribbles and making his own opportunities. At other times he's looked like an incredibly limited poacher, entirely reliant on supply from teammates. I suspect it's partly confidence/form and partly the system he's utilised in.

He does seem a lot more comfortable playing alongside another forward. Most of his success came in Genoa's 352 system, playing next to highly-rated forward Christian Kouame - and I'm referring to his contribution beyond goals. Playing as a lone forward in Milan's 433 system has exposed some big holes in his game such as a lack of pace and involvement.

It's still hard to define him properly because he's only been around for 1.5 years and his confidence is all but gone. But he seems to have regressed since moving to Milan. The environment there is very toxic right now and perhaps the pressure is affecting him negatively too.

It's hard to tell what kind of player you guys will get. I think it says a lot that Milan are willing to let him go after just 1 year at the club - both about how poorly Milan are run, and how limited Piatek has been.

From what I can tell, Kane's involvement seems a big part of how Spurs play. With some confidence, some good supply and some combination play from the likes of Moura and Son, I think Piatek could be a decent purchase. However, if the overall "disconnected" quality of football continues, then I suspect Piatek won't be of much help unfortunately.
Thank you sempreinter we believe you!!!!
 

JR1994

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Jan 11, 2018
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Under mourinho unless Tanguy has played we’ve been a lot more direct. Probably more so due to our limitations on the ball in CM than anything. Son isn’t a striker where we can play like that. The ball will just keep coming back and we can’t defend for shit. Son’s best position is the left hand side or if up front needs a partner. Piatek who will commit the defenders to him and challenge in the air would suit Son so much more as well.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Jan 6, 2013
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The club can do what they want but if fans think a Milan reject is gonna come in and immediately replace Kane’s output they will be disappointed. I think it would be much more wise to get a Son rotation option for the wing and rely on Son for goals up front.
I remember when a Leicester and Norwich reject suddenly scored loads of goals for us.
 

Johnny J

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Aug 18, 2012
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Really wish we had a better scouting network and a director of football. This has Janssen written all over it. Slow, physical, box player.
 

THFCSPURS19

The Speaker of the Transfer Rumours Forum
Jan 6, 2013
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We are a funny bunch aint we. We get linked with a striker which everyone has been screaming for and we have a whole heap of people not happy.

Anyway, on to Piatek, I have watched him about 5 times in all and yes he is a very clinical finisher but one thing I haven't seen mentioned is how hard he works. In all the games I watched, he defended very well from the front and was a bit of a terrier, the type of striker that defenders get annoyed with as he won't leave them alone. I think this is a massively important aspect to what Mourinho wants, as currently as a team we do not defend well.
As demonstrated by this:

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JUSTINSIGNAL

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Jul 10, 2008
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I remember when a Leicester and Norwich reject suddenly scored loads of goals for us.

Wasn’t really a reject was he. We sent him out to get experience when he was 19/20 and the loans didn’t work out for whatever reason. Not really the same at all but ok.
 

GetSpurredOn

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So, without knowing too much about him, other than what I’ve seen on here and the obligatory YouTube videos, he strikes me as a steady backup, someone capable, but unlikely to rock the boat.
In today’s market, the reported fee isn’t ridiculous, and he seems to know how to occupy defenders and find the net. True, he doesn't look a Kane Mk2, but more your ‘Giroud’ type option, and he’s proven to be pretty useful as a ‘not quite first choice’ striker for both club and country.
I don’t see him being another Janssen, as he has the basic physical attributes that Janssen didn’t, size, strength and general physical presence. Looks a steady piece of business, who could flourish with the likes of Alli, Moura and Son creating space for him, plus Aurier’s opportunistic but sometimes dangerous deliveries, and Toby’s diagonal balls.

Things to be positive about,
1. We’ve identified the need for a physical presence up top when Kane is out (seems to happen late in the season annually), rather than just try to get by with Son and Moura. Llorente just wasn’t quite mobile enough to truly step up for us, but Piatek’s pressing numbers suggest this won’t be his downfall.
2. If we manage to include Wanyama in the deal, we’ll have equally trimmed a player from the squad who we clearly don’t feel can contribute what we need anymore. Plus, if that knocks some off the outright price, then there should be still budget left to address other areas of need. I like Foyth, so hope he’s not part of the deal.
 

dk-yid

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Jan 17, 2011
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Us: We want another striker!!

Striker linked

Us: He's not as good as Kane! Don't want!

Striker not bought

Us: We should have bought that guy!!
 

carpediem991

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May 31, 2011
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I think it is not easy to do any better than him in the winter, even though I see similarities to our #9s before.
Would be very happy to give him a shot though.

I just wonder if we can get this quickly done now or we drag it Spurs style another 2-3 weeks.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Really wish we had a better scouting network and a director of football. This has Janssen written all over it. Slow, physical, box player.

I was just thinking the same. Here’s another similarity to Janssen. Only a couple of seasons of top flight football. You’d think we would of learnt.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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has he not covered well for Kane’s absence in the past? To the point many were saying we play better without Kane in the team?

Also point is Kane doesn’t/won’t get rotated when he’s fit again. He’s too important to the team.

If we get a Son rotational option he can play with Kane and will therefore see more game time and not lose sharpness and motivation like Llorente/Janssen have previously

Son played well but you’re forgetting, like many, we had a more motivated Eriksen playing too which helped him a lot. That’s not there now so let’s see if he’s as effective without him.

Anyway, we need another striker, so I’m glad we are in for one if this story is true.
 
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