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yankspurs

Enic Out
Aug 22, 2013
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If you couldnt laugh at us you’d cry so I am laughing hysterically at us. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha banter club
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
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And he was villified.

Spurs are a joke of a club. Lets all laugh at them
I wouldn't go so far as to say that we're a joke.

We managed to get to damn near the pinnacle of club football, but we didn't know what to do when we got there and we blew it, and we've been in denial of it for nearly 3 years now.
 

spursfan1991

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Donki

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Why has this site went into total lockdown, we aren’t and never have been close to the big boys? Live with it, enjoy the football and your club, let’s not loose your shit over it lol.
 

danielneeds

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May 5, 2004
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Why has this site went into total lockdown, we aren’t and never have been close to the big boys? Live with it, enjoy the football and your club, let’s not loose your shit over it lol.
A lot of us don’t expect us to spend as much as City, Chelsea, Newcastle (lol), but we just want to see a bit of strategy and ambition. Unfortunately we’re gonna let a world class manager slip through our fingers because our club displays neither. That’s why people are so tired and angry right now.
 

Donki

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A lot of us don’t expect us to spend as much as City, Chelsea, Newcastle (lol), but we just want to see a bit of strategy and ambition. Unfortunately we’re gonna let a world class manager slip through our fingers because our club displays neither. That’s why people are so tired and angry right now.
Why is this news though? Levy hired a patsy again, nothing will change while ENIC control the purse strings.
 

Sevens

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A lot of us don’t expect us to spend as much as City, Chelsea, Newcastle (lol), but we just want to see a bit of strategy and ambition. Unfortunately we’re gonna let a world class manager slip through our fingers because our club displays neither. That’s why people are so tired and angry right now.

I must have said this a hundred times, but Levy won't spend money to try and push us to the next level. The only time he has spent money, against the norm, is when we trying to arrest a slide. He has never taken the extra leap of faith. For example when Redknapp first qualified for the Champion's League, there was no big spending in the Summer to try and kick us on to the next level. Instead it was play it safe. And if Conte pulls off the miracle this year and finishes top four? Then Levy will be vindicated in his own mind and almost certainly be thinking that managers and fans keeping banging on about new players to get into the top four but Conte has proven that this current squad is good enough to do so.

The bottom line is, we are in debt from the stadium build. Covid couldn't have come at a worse time for the club. We almost certainly have to sell before we can buy and/or reduce our wage bill before we can add to it. This has been the case for some time.

The other problem facing us (and we're not alone in this) is that the relative transfer gap between an average player and a top player is much smaller. 10 years ago the £24m+ was an expensive transfer. We got Eriksen for £11m. We got Chadli for £6m, 4x cheaper than an expensive transfer. Now an expensive transfer is £80m and your Chadli's of this world are going for £40m. When we sold Bale for £86m we purchased seven players to start rebuilding the squad. Now if we'd sold Kane for £120m, we'd have been lucky to get in one quality replacement and a speculative purchase like an NDombele. The transfer fees for unproven and average players are mental, and don't even get me started on the wages for some of these players.

Lastly, I do think there is a dearth of talent out there. There has been for a few years IMHO. There aren't many marquee signings available anywhere, and those that are available are way out of Spurs's price range. So that leaves us with buying players who aren't going to be guaranteed successes and Spurs's problem is that we can't afford to go and buy four or five £50m+ players and be relatively happy if only one or two of them come good and Spurs fans and managers won't accept raw talents into the first team (like Kante at Leicester for example) as we've become too big for our boots.

Ultimately the new stadium has fucked us, in the same way that the Emirates fucked Arsenal. The plan from Arsenal was that they'd build the new stadium, tighten their belts for a decade and then have the revenue to compete with the Utd's, Real Madrid's etc. of this world. But it didn't happen because TV revenue now far outstrips matchday revenue and City and Chelsea came along and played like FM in cheat mode. Didn't stop Leicester from winning the title mind you....
 

mill

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May 21, 2007
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I must have said this a hundred times, but Levy won't spend money to try and push us to the next level. The only time he has spent money, against the norm, is when we trying to arrest a slide. He has never taken the extra leap of faith. For example when Redknapp first qualified for the Champion's League, there was no big spending in the Summer to try and kick us on to the next level. Instead it was play it safe. And if Conte pulls off the miracle this year and finishes top four? Then Levy will be vindicated in his own mind and almost certainly be thinking that managers and fans keeping banging on about new players to get into the top four but Conte has proven that this current squad is good enough to do so.

The bottom line is, we are in debt from the stadium build. Covid couldn't have come at a worse time for the club. We almost certainly have to sell before we can buy and/or reduce our wage bill before we can add to it. This has been the case for some time.

The other problem facing us (and we're not alone in this) is that the relative transfer gap between an average player and a top player is much smaller. 10 years ago the £24m+ was an expensive transfer. We got Eriksen for £11m. We got Chadli for £6m, 4x cheaper than an expensive transfer. Now an expensive transfer is £80m and your Chadli's of this world are going for £40m. When we sold Bale for £86m we purchased seven players to start rebuilding the squad. Now if we'd sold Kane for £120m, we'd have been lucky to get in one quality replacement and a speculative purchase like an NDombele. The transfer fees for unproven and average players are mental, and don't even get me started on the wages for some of these players.

Lastly, I do think there is a dearth of talent out there. There has been for a few years IMHO. There aren't many marquee signings available anywhere, and those that are available are way out of Spurs's price range. So that leaves us with buying players who aren't going to be guaranteed successes and Spurs's problem is that we can't afford to go and buy four or five £50m+ players and be relatively happy if only one or two of them come good and Spurs fans and managers won't accept raw talents into the first team (like Kante at Leicester for example) as we've become too big for our boots.

Ultimately the new stadium has fucked us, in the same way that the Emirates fucked Arsenal. The plan from Arsenal was that they'd build the new stadium, tighten their belts for a decade and then have the revenue to compete with the Utd's, Real Madrid's etc. of this world. But it didn't happen because TV revenue now far outstrips matchday revenue and City and Chelsea came along and played like FM in cheat mode. Didn't stop Leicester from winning the title mind you....
Whilst I agree with pretty all of that it doesn’t change my opinion of enic’s decision making on the football side of “the business”being absolutely shocking and we seem to be stuck in a mid 2000’s view of transfer, not adapting in the slightest
 
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