Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

[Japhet]

Leading by example. He makes difficult decisions and takes full responsibility for them. That must rub off on the players and is the polar opposite of being humiliated like Richarlison was in front of his team mates last season. Ange is right in the thick of it with his players and that must give them a huge boost.

 

[$hoguN]

Always good to listen to him, he is just a nice guy who talks sense. As opposed to Conte who came across as someone Fred West would have gone drinking with half the time.

Only thing I find really strange is his unwillingness to acknowledge the challenge that the PL represents. Not sure why he does it. However it’s clear he has never had the quality of players at his disposal that he has now or the facilities, etc.

 

[mil1lion]

'Sustained success' is just a vague buzzword. What does it entail?

He literally explained it, I think you need to watch it properly

 

[chas vs dave]

Bayern, Madrid, Barcelona, PSG, are all very, very, results driven.

Easier to do when you're already at the top and have greater spending power. The above teams have over double/treble the turnover compared to their competitors.

You haven't mentioned city?

We can't go toe to toe with these clubs.

 

[Yid-ol]

'Sustained success' is just a vague buzzword. What does it entail?

Success that is sustained. You are welcome

 

[Japhet]

Always good to listen to him, he is just a nice guy who talks sense. As opposed to Conte who came across as someone Fred West would have gone drinking with half the time.

Only thing I find really strange is his unwillingness to acknowledge the challenge that the PL represents. Not sure why he does it. However it’s clear he has never had the quality of players at his disposal that he has now or the facilities, etc.

I think he's just very mindful of never making it sound like he's making any sort of excuses.

 

[C-oops]

What things are we looking to win then? The premier league title and the champions league?

He has said multiple times that he wants to win every game, wants to win every game playing in an exciting and entertaining way and success to him is winning trophies. If that isn't clear enough for you then I can't help you.

 

[C-oops]

What things are we looking to win then? The premier league title and the champions league?

Have just looked through your output on here. Please get yourself outside, sit in the sun, maybe look at some flowers and if you have kids, take them to the park and watch them play. You sound like you need some serious cheering up.

 

[yido_number1]

I think he's just very mindful of never making it sound like he's making any sort of excuses.

Great approach, bite size goals that lead to the big prizes. Fulham was disappointing but I understand why he did it. I'd imagine he won't rotate in the fa cup because of it.

Anyone that questions why he would be aiming to win league or champions league is forgetting the classic setting our standard so high that even ... that's the mentality we lack here and it's echo'd in Kanea losing games isn't a disaster at spurs mentality. You need to change the clubs mindset and I hope he can do that

 

[muppetman]

He's said several times that if he gets the playing style correct and everyone buys in, then success will automatically follow. He says this because it's what's happened everywhere he has managed.

Now, he hasn't been up against the disparity in wealth perhaps that exists between Spurs and City or Chelsea but he has confidence in his methods.

None of this suggest he is happy to take part, or only wants top 4.

 

[SpursSince1980]

Yeah. Ange doesn’t strike me as a ‘participation trophy’ kinda guy.

 

[Danny1]

The man is a breath of fresh air. He wants to come in, create a club that has sustainable growth and the ability to be successful long term, not just a one cup West Ham type side.

The way he plays football has been successful at every club he has been at, and very successful with it.
We are in very safe hands.

 

[BorjeSpurs]

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Easier to do when you're already at the top and have greater spending power. The above teams have over double/treble the turnover compared to their competitors.

You haven't mentioned city?

We can't go toe to toe with these clubs.

You said "top organisations aren't results driven".

I merely mentioned that the top football organisations in Europe are all very results driven.

All of those clubs have fired managers who have won the league, because winning the league alone wasn't a good enough result for them.

You can throw Peps City in there as well if you like.

When results aren't going their way, they immediately throw 300m into the squad in the summer to improve their results.

 

[alfie103]

Easier to do when you're already at the top and have greater spending power. The above teams have over double/treble the turnover compared to their competitors.

You haven't mentioned city?

We can't go toe to toe with these clubs.

So how would you define 'sustained success' if we don't (as we can't) compete with the teams who generally win the champions league and premier league?

 

[nicdic]

I love him so much.

 

[chas vs dave]

You said "top organisations aren't results driven".

I merely mentioned that the top football organisations in Europe are all very results driven.

All of those clubs have fired managers who have won the league, because winning the league alone wasn't a good enough result for them.

You can throw Peps City in there as well if you like.

When results aren't going their way, they immediately throw 300m into the squad in the summer to improve their results.

No, I said high performing. Not top organisations.

It's about teams who exceed beyond their limits. The fact of the matter is that we cannot outspend man utd, Liverpool, man city, barca, Madrid, PSG, bayern.

We can potentially out think them and perform above where we should naturally sit.

A HPO is essentially a learning organisation that continuously improves, that changes and adapts.

City are adapting every season now, they aren't outspending.

 

[chas vs dave]

So how would you define 'sustained success' if we don't (as we can't) compete with the teams who generally win the champions league and premier league?

We can compete, we just need to find a way of doing it differently. Man Utd have spent over 1.1bn and gone nowhere.

In the same sentence, Brighton finished above us, but can't financially compete with spurs.

I'm not keen on setting targets, or expectations. Not this season at least.

 

[easley91]

Yeah it was, he spoke well but most of it was just fairly generic new manager talk. I don't really care if the manager is a nice bloke or speaks well in public, I care about Tottenham doing well and trying to win trophies.

Frankly, there seems to be a bit of a weird cult of personality on here with him.

 

[robotsonic]

So how would you define 'sustained success' if we don't (as we can't) compete with the teams who generally win the champions league and premier league?

I don't understand the idea that we can't compete with these teams, especially when in the recent past we've actually challenged for the league and domestic cups, and played in a Champions League final. We beat Man City on the regular. We've gone to the Camp Nou and given Barcelona a go, and turned over Real Madrid. Sustained success for us just needs to put us in that conversation regularly, because a team in that position regularly can get past these teams. We got there before and we can do it again, and that's the aim, no?

Incredibly defeatist to not bother thinking that we can compete. May as well give up supporting or at least just accept the apparent mediocrity and cease to be angry about it.