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glacierSpurs

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Reappointing Poch will be a terrible mistake. I wonder how long before he losses interest again ?
Let's just accept that will happen, mate. Levy knows this will appease the fans, players and results will improve no doubt. Football in this club is always short term anyway, as long as the excitement kicks back in for a year or so, he's not losing sleep. Nothing long term in this club except for the contract of mediocre players.
 

DanielJohnCosta

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Let's just accept that will happen, mate. Levy knows this will appease the fans, players and results will improve no doubt. Football in this club is always short term anyway, as long as the excitement kicks back in for a year or so, he's not losing sleep. Nothing long term in this club except for the contract of mediocre players.
You’d rather conte?
 

IfiHadTheWings

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Obviously things were moody at the end of the Poch time but i find it baffling the rewriting of his time here by some of our fans.

It’s as if some portion of our fanbase actively dislike Pochettino now, the man worked under some serious constraints whilst regularly getting us champions league football for the first time, coming above and staying above our bitter rivals for the first time in a quarter century.

Whether you want him back or not put some Gottdamn Respek on the mans name.
 

Styopa

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Obviously things were moody at the end of the Poch time but i find it baffling the rewriting of his time here by some of our fans.

It’s as if some portion of our fanbase actively dislike Pochettino now, the man worked under some serious constraints whilst regularly getting us champions league football for the first time, coming above and staying above our bitter rivals for the first time in a quarter century.

Whether you want him back or not put some Gottdamn Respek on the mans name.

Yeah. I think a lot of people bought into the Mourinho and Conte hype, and part of that was besmirching Poch’s name e.g Now we have a real winner in charge. When it became obvious we were actually getting worse under Mourinho and Conte, a whole myth developed of Poch having only succeeded because he had incredible players.
 

WhiteStripe

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Obviously things were moody at the end of the Poch time but i find it baffling the rewriting of his time here by some of our fans.

It’s as if some portion of our fanbase actively dislike Pochettino now, the man worked under some serious constraints whilst regularly getting us champions league football for the first time, coming above and staying above our bitter rivals for the first time in a quarter century.

Whether you want him back or not put some Gottdamn Respek on the mans name.
Exactly this. Those same fans seem to forget that without him, this club would most likely have never pushed on to the levels we did and have the expectation levels some fans now have. People judge the tail end of his tenure, when he was not backed. I don’t blame him for how it ended at all. Let’s not forget that for 3 seasons Pochettino was lauded as a genius, not just by our fans, but the pundits too. He introduced a new style of football to the premier league that so many teams are now thriving under, he introduced a new way of training, a camaraderie we haven’t come close to and for the first time in my adult lifetime a genuine love for the game again.
 

IfiHadTheWings

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Because he's the equivalent of a nice cosy blanket after all the upheaval of the last few years. The fans love him and Levy knows that it'll buy him a bit of time.
I’d take a cosy blanket who made us a serious outfit.

pre Poch nobody took us seriously, under him all the other teams and managers feared playing us can we honestly say that at any point since barring maybe a couple of fleeting moments.

we are back to Pre Poch status amongst the footballing world. Soft, inconsistent and a non threat to the big boys.
 

Japhet

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Yeah. I think a lot of people bought into the Mourinho and Conte hype, and part of that was besmirching Poch’s name e.g Now we have a real winner in charge. When it became obvious we were actually getting worse under Mourinho and Conte, a whole myth developed of Poch having only succeeded because he had incredible players.


Say what you like about Poch, but he improved a whole load of players. Can't say I've been the least bit impressed with Mourinho or Conte in that respect.
 

Metalhead

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I’d take a cosy blanket who made us a serious outfit.

pre Poch nobody took us seriously, under him all the other teams and managers feared playing us can we honestly say that at any point since barring maybe a couple of fleeting moments.

we are back to Pre Poch status amongst the footballing world. Soft, inconsistent and a non threat to the big boys.
I was just making the point that it's not just a case of Poch or Conte. There are other options.
 

Metalhead

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I agree to an extent but then that’s also completely ignoring the fact he’s an excellent coach, though.
Levy will probably go for him - it's the easy option. I'm dubious that we'll see the Poch era that people are hoping for but it'll give Levy a short term breathing space. We do short term really well to be fair.
 

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Poch helped us dispose of the term "Spursy". Mou and Conte have helped bring it back. Do not judge Poch on the end tailslide, most of that was down to Levy and the stadium build. What Poch achieved was extraordinary. I used to watch away matches and expect to win. I don't now expect to win any matches whether home/away or against lower leagues and if we do win I am bored to tears with our tactics. A rejuvenated Poch with a bit more experience could be a revelation and certainly no more risky than anyone else the "football whisperer Levy" will pick. We also have a better shell of a squad than given credit for.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
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Poch helped us dispose of the term "Spursy". Mou and Conte have helped bring it back. Do not judge Poch on the end tailslide, most of that was down to Levy and the stadium build. What Poch achieved was extraordinary. I used to watch away matches and expect to win. I don't now expect to win any matches whether home/away or against lower leagues and if we do win I am bored to tears with our tactics. A rejuvenated Poch with a bit more experience could be a revelation and certainly no more risky than anyone else the "football whisperer Levy" will pick. We also have a better shell of a squad than given credit for.
It would be lovely if he came back and was a success. I'd hate to think what would happen if he didn't. I wouldn't blame Poch though. You'd have to really wonder then where Levy would go from there.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
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Poch helped us dispose of the term "Spursy". Mou and Conte have helped bring it back. Do not judge Poch on the end tailslide, most of that was down to Levy and the stadium build. What Poch achieved was extraordinary. I used to watch away matches and expect to win. I don't now expect to win any matches whether home/away or against lower leagues and if we do win I am bored to tears with our tactics. A rejuvenated Poch with a bit more experience could be a revelation and certainly no more risky than anyone else the "football whisperer Levy" will pick. We also have a better shell of a squad than given credit for.
'Football whisperer' is the funniest description I've seen in ages.
 

Albertbarich

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He isn't perfect but no manager is and if you're that way inclined you can find faults and issues with every manager.

No matter who we get the question will be there about being backed and the board and I don't see that going away no matter if it's Poch, Gallardo or Conte.

So when he was here before they were some of my favourite time as. Spurs fan. I'm 44 and have seen so many come and go but few gave us that feeling of togetherness and like something special was happening that Poch gave me.

He built that team. Kane blossomed under him, Dele was a kid we got from the lower leagues, Eriksen and Jan were front he Dutch league that so many don't trust when scouting talent, Toby and Wanyama were cheap yet brilliant buys , walker blossomed, Rose went from laughing stock to best left back in the world. Hell he had Eric Dier as a top defensive midfielder! And don't pretend like that's a small thing, the summer before everyone was clamouring for one but he had a plan that NOBODY saw coming and if you'd saw today's Eric Dier and I told you he could be a DM you would laugh.

We were getting to semi finals, cup finals, we were challenging for the league! We got to a champions league final! It blows my mind so many Spurs fans underplay all this. I don't know if it's an age thing but at my rotten old age I couldn't believe we were there. I'd lived through all sorts of shambles , see the scum win everything and finally it was our turn. Yes we didn't get over the line but don't understate how amazing those years were. It was incredible.

And it fell apart somewhat at the end and we played some awful football but you can't pin that all on him. He warned and warned about the need for a rebuild that were still talking about to this day. He saw it coming but whilst you can moan about those last 18 months he still got us top four and to the most coveted final in club football.

And my final defence of his time here is this. During a time of self imposed austerity and now in present day where Daniel Levy reaps the compliments of getting this stadium we have let's not forget it was Poch that kept us in the Champions League the whole time and I dread to think what would of happened if he hadn't because the board are tight enough anyway. So give him credit for that too because it was no mean feat.

I understand the want for shiny new things. Appointing Gallardo would excite me as I've heard so much, De Zerbi is getting Brighton going brilliantly, Frank is doing wonders with Brentford , Tuchel another huge name and a super coach but don't pretend like they don't all have huge question marks over them .

Whether or not Poch comes back I'd like people to appreciate what he did and when I see posts or tweets saying ' I don't understand the Poch love in' maybe look at what he achieved compared to the 20 or 30 years before it and the largely miserable time we have had since.
 

A Bit Much

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I’d take a cosy blanket who made us a serious outfit.

pre Poch nobody took us seriously, under him all the other teams and managers feared playing us can we honestly say that at any point since barring maybe a couple of fleeting moments.

we are back to Pre Poch status amongst the footballing world. Soft, inconsistent and a non threat to the big boys.

The odd thing about criticising poch is that he produced better everything than other managers in our recent past - better football and better results. The question of whether he could get us over the line in cups would be a fascinating one if you gave him the cash we seem able to spend these days - could finally help us win something whilst playing attractive football.
 
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