Mauricio Pochettino

[allatsea]

The odd thing about criticising poch is that he produced better everything than other managers in our recent past - better football and better results. The question of whether he could get us over the line in cups would be a fascinating one if you gave him the cash we seem able to spend these days - could finally help us win something whilst playing attractive football.

Spending the cash wisely is the key for me. Unfortunately Poch has not at any stage shown himself to be clever in the Transfer Market and that is why we need a quality DoF. But would Poch work with a DoF ?

 

[Marty]

He isn't perfect but no manager is and if you're that way inclined you can find faults and issues with every manager.

No matter who we get the question will be there about being backed and the board and I don't see that going away no matter if it's Poch, Gallardo or Conte.

So when he was here before they were some of my favourite time as. Spurs fan. I'm 44 and have seen so many come and go but few gave us that feeling of togetherness and like something special was happening that Poch gave me.

He built that team. Kane blossomed under him, Dele was a kid we got from the lower leagues, Eriksen and Jan were front he Dutch league that so many don't trust when scouting talent, Toby and Wanyama were cheap yet brilliant buys , walker blossomed, Rose went from laughing stock to best left back in the world. Hell he had Eric Dier as a top defensive midfielder! And don't pretend like that's a small thing, the summer before everyone was clamouring for one but he had a plan that NOBODY saw coming and if you'd saw today's Eric Dier and I told you he could be a DM you would laugh.

We were getting to semi finals, cup finals, we were challenging for the league! We got to a champions league final! It blows my mind so many Spurs fans underplay all this. I don't know if it's an age thing but at my rotten old age I couldn't believe we were there. I'd lived through all sorts of shambles , see the scum win everything and finally it was our turn. Yes we didn't get over the line but don't understate how amazing those years were. It was incredible.

And it fell apart somewhat at the end and we played some awful football but you can't pin that all on him. He warned and warned about the need for a rebuild that were still talking about to this day. He saw it coming but whilst you can moan about those last 18 months he still got us top four and to the most coveted final in club football.

And my final defence of his time here is this. During a time of self imposed austerity and now in present day where Daniel Levy reaps the compliments of getting this stadium we have let's not forget it was Poch that kept us in the Champions League the whole time and I dread to think what would of happened if he hadn't because the board are tight enough anyway. So give him credit for that too because it was no mean feat.

I understand the want for shiny new things. Appointing Gallardo would excite me as I've heard so much, De Zerbi is getting Brighton going brilliantly, Frank is doing wonders with Brentford , Tuchel another huge name and a super coach but don't pretend like they don't all have huge question marks over them .

Whether or not Poch comes back I'd like people to appreciate what he did and when I see posts or tweets saying ' I don't understand the Poch love in' maybe look at what he achieved compared to the 20 or 30 years before it and the largely miserable time we have had since.

You can argue that Poch to an extent was the architect of his own downfall by insisting on trying to make that terrible 4-4-2 diamond formation work with a trio of Sissoko, Winks and Dele behind Eriksen.

Of course he may well have done something different had we bought and especially sold better in that period. But that tactical switch and Dembele's decline marked the beginning of the end.

I am being slightly facetious but I do seriously mean that he wasn't only shafted by Levy. He played his part. The ratio might be 1/4 Poch's fault and 3/4 Levy's, but he still played his part.

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

What would our line up be under poch with our current players ( here & on loan)?

I think something like this

Lloris
Porro Romero Dier Reguilón
Bentancur Højbjerg Lo Celso
Kulusevski Kane Son​

 

[richard_gleeson]

What would our line up be under poch with our current players ( here & on loan)?

I think something like this

Lloris
Porro Romero Dier Reguilón
Bentancur Højbjerg Lo Celso
Kulusevski Kane Son​

Could be a lifeline for Reguillon and GLC but doubt they want to be here anyway to be honest. Poch likes Davies too. Skipp might be a good option in the old Dier role

 

[Metalhead]

Spending the cash wisely is the key for me. Unfortunately Poch has not at any stage shown himself to be clever in the Transfer Market and that is why we need a quality DoF. But would Poch work with a DoF ?

I was thinking that. Levy gave him the keys to the palace last time and it didn't work. Not that I'd blame him completely but if he won't work with a DoF then are we back to the celebrated transfer committee and negotiations taken to the wire?

 

[The Doc]

What would our line up be under poch with our current players ( here & on loan)?

I think something like this

Lloris
Porro Romero Dier Reguilón
Bentancur Højbjerg Lo Celso
Kulusevski Kane Son​

Can you imagine that back four in a high line? Makes me weep just thinking about it. Especially with zero pressure on the ball from that front three.

 

[spursfan77]

Obviously things were moody at the end of the Poch time but i find it baffling the rewriting of his time here by some of our fans.

It’s as if some portion of our fanbase actively dislike Pochettino now, the man worked under some serious constraints whilst regularly getting us champions league football for the first time, coming above and staying above our bitter rivals for the first time in a quarter century.

Whether you want him back or not put some Gottdamn Respek on the mans name.

yep. This thread is going around and around with the same conversations. Going to be funny when we appoint someone else (or probably not funny at all!)

 

[Styopa]

Can you imagine that back four in a high line? Makes me weep just thinking about it. Especially with zero pressure on the ball from that front three.

It couldn’t be much worse than most of what we’ve been watching this season tbh. Even Tim Sherwood got us to 6th. We’re probably on course for somewhere similar now, whilst playing some of the most negative football in the league.

 

[The Doc]

It couldn’t be much worse than most of what we’ve been watching this season tbh. Even Tim Sherwood got us to 6th. We’re probably on course for somewhere similar now, whilst playing some of the most negative football in the league.

I think there is a correlation between our defensive options and the way we set up?

 

[Styopa]

I think there is a correlation between our defensive options and the way we set up?

I think Conte has been fairly consistent in terms of tactics and strategy throughout his managerial career. I don’t think he’s changed much of his own approach to fit with the players he has at Spurs. I think the opposite is the case in fact.

 

[Hotspur33]

What would our line up be under poch with our current players ( here & on loan)?

I think something like this

Lloris
Porro Romero Dier Reguilón
Bentancur Højbjerg Lo Celso
Kulusevski Kane Son​

I’d say…..

Lloris
Spence Romero Lenglet Davies
Bentancur Bissouma
Kulu Gil/lo celso Son
Kane​

 

[Hotspur33]

I was thinking that. Levy gave him the keys to the palace last time and it didn't work. Not that I'd blame him completely but if he won't work with a DoF then are we back to the celebrated transfer committee and negotiations taken to the wire?

I think it would be interesting to see the outcome of Lo Celso and Ndombele in their second season had Poch been given a season’s grace

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

I’d say…..

Lloris
Spence Romero Lenglet Davies
Bentancur Bissouma
Kulu Gil/lo celso Son
Kane​

I actually forgot about Bissouma tbh. Can’t see him using gil

 

[The Doc]

I think Conte has been fairly consistent in terms of tactics and strategy throughout his managerial career. I don’t think he’s changed much of his own approach to fit with the players he has at Spurs. I think the opposite is the case in fact.

What about Nuno and Jose? Don't you think they both took a look at what we had and moved the defensive line back as a consequence? It would be suicidal to play a high line with this squad. Imo.

 

[richard_gleeson]

I’d say…..

Lloris
Spence Romero Lenglet Davies
Bentancur Bissouma
Kulu Gil/lo celso Son
Kane​

Lenglet good shout. Similar to vertonghen in style. Udogie and Porro will surely play.

 

[Hotspur33]

Lenglet good shout. Similar to vertonghen in style. Udogie and Porro will surely play.

I forgot about Udogie.

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

Because he's the equivalent of a nice cosy blanket after all the upheaval of the last few years. The fans love him and Levy knows that it'll buy him a bit of time.

I’ll tell you what a PR stunt. It’s letting go of your best manager in modern era and then signing two cheque book managers with shit football to look like a massive club

 

[Metalhead]

I’ll tell you what a PR stunt. It’s letting go of your best manager in modern era and then signing two cheque book managers with shit football to look like a massive club

Different coaches, same chairman?

 

[Metalhead]

I think it would be interesting to see the outcome of Lo Celso and Ndombele in their second season had Poch been given a season’s grace

Not sure with the latter. It just seems like his heart isn't in football.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]