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aliyid

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Daily Mail (yuk) saying Poch & Tuchel both interested in the England manager’s job if Southgate leaves.

Two managers who pride themselves on a high level of tactical work with squads on the training pitch. Something that you don't get time or opportunity to implement during the few days you get with the squad as an international manager.

Can't see either of them being interesting at this point in their careers in an international job outside their own nations. Guess they have to fill column space with something while the season is on pause.
 

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Two managers who pride themselves on a high level of tactical work with squads on the training pitch. Something that you don't get time or opportunity to implement during the few days you get with the squad as an international manager.

Can't see either of them being interesting at this point in their careers in an international job outside their own nations. Guess they have to fill column space with something while the season is on pause.
I could see Poch being interested in the England job - even more so than the Argentina job. Good paying, high profile job - lets him and his wife continue to live in London.
 

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Two managers who pride themselves on a high level of tactical work with squads on the training pitch. Something that you don't get time or opportunity to implement during the few days you get with the squad as an international manager.

Can't see either of them being interesting at this point in their careers in an international job outside their own nations. Guess they have to fill column space with something while the season is on pause.
Yep doubt any truth in that and highly doubt the FA would employ a German to manage the English national team, even if Tuchel is world class.
 

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I really feel like they should ban non natives from managing National teams. I get the argument for the lower and developing nations but i dont know i just feel like all national team managers should be from that country.
 

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I really feel like they should ban non natives from managing National teams. I get the argument for the lower and developing nations but i dont know i just feel like all national team managers should be from that country.
I'm pretty much with this idea, it does seem a bit odd. As for the lower nations - if they can find 15-20 players to put onto a pitch then surely they can find a manager - might also help in getting more people to go into football management from that nation if managing their country is a real possibility for them.
 

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Can't see it, for a variety of reasons (and the idea of a non-Englishman managing England does always feel a little off to me), but I think that Tuchel would make for an absolutely phenomenal international tournament coach. In fact I'd say he might be a closer guarantee of success than almost anyone else around. He's not the guy I'd put my hat on to win league titles or establish long-term dominant success, but he's a hell of a big match tactician, which has been borne out by his record in cup competitions over recent years. The lesser day to day intensive nature of the international game may well serve to minimize the more negative aspects of his approach as well.

As for Poch, he'd be fine, but I don't really see international football as comporting enormously well to his strengths. Also, for the PR aspect alone I think he'd need to work on his English a bit. Every new time I hear him he seems to have regressed more!

From a pure man-management point of view, Ancelotti would be great, if he's available.

As for English coaches though, atm I can't really think of any. Potter was the obvious one. Howe is turning out to be a better manager than I'd realised, but clearly he's taken. Not English exactly, but sort of close enough, would be Brendan Rodgers. I know he'd an enormously unpopular choice with many, but there's a touch of recency bias to that imo. He's better than Leicester's form of recent times would suggest (he and they are due a change) and would make for a decent England manager I reckon - one who'd make the most of our attacking options. Would ideally though like for him to have someone alongside who knows how to coach against set pieces, that's for sure!

Anyway, probably should have put this in the England rather than Poch thread lol.
 

Marty

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I'm pretty much with this idea, it does seem a bit odd. As for the lower nations - if they can find 15-20 players to put onto a pitch then surely they can find a manager - might also help in getting more people to go into football management from that nation if managing their country is a real possibility for them.
And you see Morocco reaching a semi final with a native manager just to prove that coaching talent can be found outside the top nations.
 

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I really feel like they should ban non natives from managing National teams. I get the argument for the lower and developing nations but i dont know i just feel like all national team managers should be from that country.
Sounds a bit racist. Surely someone should be judged on ability than county of origin?
 

jurgen

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Would surely be too much of a mindfuck for the press and England fans to have our brave boys managed by an Argentinian or German despite their qualities as managers.
 

Hitch

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To me, that seems so unlike Poch to speak about wanting a managerial position that someone else is in. He doesn't disrespect people.

Slow media day & probably made up
I dunno. Doubt he'd put it forward quite so bluntly as that, but acting without an agent as he does, Poch's camp have a history of leaking stories sloppily through the media. The way he was (obviously but indirectly) pushing for the United job, prior to ETH getting the call, was kind of cringeworthy in its overtness. His weird dalliance the previous summer, over potentially returning to Spurs, was lesser noticed but no less clumsy.

In a way I commend him for acting without an agent, but where it comes to playing the media he could do with some help imo.
 
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Marty

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Sounds a bit racist. Surely someone should be judged on ability than county of origin?
But if the players in a national side have to come from a particular nation, why should it not state in the rules that the manager must also be from the same nation?

The whole point of international football is judging how good a team a nation can produce. That should also mean manager in my eyes. Got the best squad in the world but a hopeless crop of managers? Tough luck.
 

mr ashley

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Sounds a bit racist. Surely someone should be judged on ability than county of origin?
It’s not a racism argument in any way shape or form.
It’s selection based criteria using the country of birth just like the players.

id suggest the use of the word ‘native’ has triggered your response, which is a different matter.

But as the only major country to use a
foreign national to manage our international team we have already started to dilute the spirit of this competition, which is about what our country has to offer against all other countries.
 

thecook

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To me, that seems so unlike Poch to speak about wanting a managerial position that someone else is in. He doesn't disrespect people.

Slow media day & probably made up

He's not spoken out though according the article. He's told friend, who have then apparently leaked it. It's probably bollocks anyway.
 
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