Mauricio Pochettino

[BorjeSpurs]

Spurs fans loving every Ange press conference and interview. Meanwhile, at Chelsea....

 

[KirstyG]

He’s gonna need more lemons…

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Great man manager. Poor tactician.

Poor tactician probably harsh but agree with the sentiment.

When he came to the PL, high pressing and playing out from the back etc was fairly rare still with young hungry squads at Southampton and us this fresh approach and good man management means he got groups and teams to outperform their potential.

However I always felt that especially in big games like against Klopp, Pep, in Europe, in key cup matches etc quite often tactically he would get found out a bit.

I don’t think he’s a poor tactician but I do think that he’s not as tactically as good as the Klopp’s,Pep’s, Arteta’s, Ange’s etc.

I also think that ever since the CL final with us he’s a different person, he seems emotionally quite drained and doesn’t quite have that youthful energy he has with us.

Early says still and even though they’ve spent a gazillion £‘s that job isn’t easy as their squad is a bit of a mess.

Nkunku injured has been a huge huge loss for them as they have created chances in all of their matches but Jackson has missed most of them.

Either way very glad we have Ange and not Poch and lovely to see Chelsea struggling.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Yeah, if he loses at Villa, these press conferences will get even more uncomfortable for him.

Far prefer Ange’s mentality and calm balanced demeanour and clear communication, certainly don’t miss Poch’s pressers.

 

[only1waddle]

Far prefer Ange’s mentality and calm balanced demeanour and clear communication, certainly don’t miss Poch’s pressers.

It's just absolute waffle isn't it.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

It's just absolute waffle isn't it.

mate even when we all loved him in peak poch days I used to find his pressers a real headache just a lot of waffle as you say.

Chelsea fans will start to get sick of him if this form continues.

 

[only1waddle]

mate even when we all loved him in peak poch days I used to find his pressers a real headache just a lot of waffle as you say.

Chelsea fans will start to get sick of him if this form continues.

They already are on The Shed End.

 

[Guntz]

I really wanted him back in the summer, but very happy to eat humble pie on this one!

As others have said, he really looks like a shadow of his former self.

 

[Stamford]

Just hope he clings on for our game. Atmosphere will be special

 

[rossdapep]

It's just absolute waffle isn't it.

In his defence, his English is poor.

So he is going to speak in cliches and basic phrases rather than anything really insighftul.

However, NOT in his defence! I am adament he did not need to take that Chelsea job like others believe. Sevilla, Dortmund, Napoli...just a few clubs that would have suited him and what he does.

I think even Villa would have been a great job for him.

I Didnt want Poch back and I believe he will fail on 3 basis that I know about him.

1. Style of play.

As many of us have already stated. In 2013, his approach was refreshing and not many teams were doing it. Teams even looked to dominante possession or stay compact and go long. Poch was the anthesis of that.

The best coaches then were Pellegrini, Van Gaal, Wenger, Mourinho, AVB. Either long in the tooth or simply better than the likes of Allardyce, Megson, Pulis etc but nothing special.

2. Time.

His first year with us was rough.

We got Knocked out of FA Cup by Leicester and were boring. We struggled for goals and we only occasionally pressed well. Bar the Chelsea and Arsenal wins we were largely boring to watch.

It started to really click by the second season but even then it took 7 or games to get going.

Poch isnt an immediate worker. He needs time to sort a mess out and get the squad to how it needs to be and play the way he wants

3. Settled 11.

When Poch finally got a settled 11 with us, that is when he shined.

Think about the best 11 he had with us and it was pretty much that 11 week in week out. Same CBs, same WBs, same front 3.

As soon as the squad started to grow again he started tweaking the system and he looked bereft of ideas. We were not our usual vibrant selves.

Wanyama and Dembele were big misses but we looked so short of ideas in attack.

I think you can apply all of these things to Chelsea.

1. Style of play - Not sure he knows what he wants. Back 3? Back 4?

2. Time. Potter sacked after a few months for similar football and results.

3. Settled 11. He doesnt even know what that is yet. Even if he gets it, he will have about 10 players going to their agents and Bohely complaining and before you know it you have a poisonous stressing room.

I still think he was a desperate fool for taking the job.

 

[Dannyspur]

Poch was great for Southampton when things were going right, the same for us and PSG but as soon as it started going wrong, he couldn’t fix it.

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

In his defence, his English is poor.

So he is going to speak in cliches and basic phrases rather than anything really insighftul.

However, NOT in his defence! I am adament he did not need to take that Chelsea job like others believe. Sevilla, Dortmund, Napoli...just a few clubs that would have suited him and what he does.

I think even Villa would have been a great job for him.

I Didnt want Poch back and I believe he will fail on 3 basis that I know about him.

1. Style of play.

As many of us have already stated. In 2013, his approach was refreshing and not many teams were doing it. Teams even looked to dominante possession or stay compact and go long. Poch was the anthesis of that.

The best coaches then were Pellegrini, Van Gaal, Wenger, Mourinho, AVB. Either long in the tooth or simply better than the likes of Allardyce, Megson, Pulis etc but nothing special.

2. Time.

His first year with us was rough.

We got Knocked out of FA Cup by Leicester and were boring. We struggled for goals and we only occasionally pressed well. Bar the Chelsea and Arsenal wins we were largely boring to watch.

It started to really click by the second season but even then it took 7 or games to get going.

Poch isnt an immediate worker. He needs time to sort a mess out and get the squad to how it needs to be and play the way he wants

3. Settled 11.

When Poch finally got a settled 11 with us, that is when he shined.

Think about the best 11 he had with us and it was pretty much that 11 week in week out. Same CBs, same WBs, same front 3.

As soon as the squad started to grow again he started tweaking the system and he looked bereft of ideas. We were not our usual vibrant selves.

Wanyama and Dembele were big misses but we looked so short of ideas in attack.

I think you can apply all of these things to Chelsea.

1. Style of play - Not sure he knows what he wants. Back 3? Back 4?

2. Time. Potter sacked after a few months for similar football and results.

3. Settled 11. He doesnt even know what that is yet. Even if he gets it, he will have about 10 players going to their agents and Bohely complaining and before you know it you have a poisonous stressing room.

I still think he was a desperate fool for taking the job.

'... poisonous STRESSING room'

Brilliant

 

[Col_M]

Has his English regressed? I don’t know if it’s cos he’s been away for a few years or if the stress is getting to him

 

[rossdapep]

Poch was great for Southampton when things were going right, the same for us and PSG but as soon as it started going wrong, he couldn’t fix it.

To be fair, his first season with us was a struggle and he fixed that.

But thats cause he was allowed to cast aside players like Adebayor, Kaboul, Bentaleb who were very vocal people and influential.

He would need to cast aside at least 7 or 8 Chelsea players but the other worry for them is they dont seem to have players like Kane, Mason, Dele, Dier etc who took on that mantle.

We also had Lloris Eriksen and Vertonghen who were superb pros not just excellent players.

I look at that Chelsea squad and they dont seem to have any of that.

 

[McFlash]

He didn't have a plan B with us and was frustrating with his subs.
Not sure he's progressed at all over the years because he doesn't even seem to have a plan A anymore.
How long til he starts trying that fucking diamond formation?!

 

[only1waddle]

In his defence, his English is poor.

So he is going to speak in cliches and basic phrases rather than anything really insighftul.

However, NOT in his defence! I am adament he did not need to take that Chelsea job like others believe. Sevilla, Dortmund, Napoli...just a few clubs that would have suited him and what he does.

I think even Villa would have been a great job for him.

I Didnt want Poch back and I believe he will fail on 3 basis that I know about him.

1. Style of play.

As many of us have already stated. In 2013, his approach was refreshing and not many teams were doing it. Teams even looked to dominante possession or stay compact and go long. Poch was the anthesis of that.

The best coaches then were Pellegrini, Van Gaal, Wenger, Mourinho, AVB. Either long in the tooth or simply better than the likes of Allardyce, Megson, Pulis etc but nothing special.

2. Time.

His first year with us was rough.

We got Knocked out of FA Cup by Leicester and were boring. We struggled for goals and we only occasionally pressed well. Bar the Chelsea and Arsenal wins we were largely boring to watch.

It started to really click by the second season but even then it took 7 or games to get going.

Poch isnt an immediate worker. He needs time to sort a mess out and get the squad to how it needs to be and play the way he wants

3. Settled 11.

When Poch finally got a settled 11 with us, that is when he shined.

Think about the best 11 he had with us and it was pretty much that 11 week in week out. Same CBs, same WBs, same front 3.

As soon as the squad started to grow again he started tweaking the system and he looked bereft of ideas. We were not our usual vibrant selves.

Wanyama and Dembele were big misses but we looked so short of ideas in attack.

I think you can apply all of these things to Chelsea.

1. Style of play - Not sure he knows what he wants. Back 3? Back 4?

2. Time. Potter sacked after a few months for similar football and results.

3. Settled 11. He doesnt even know what that is yet. Even if he gets it, he will have about 10 players going to their agents and Bohely complaining and before you know it you have a poisonous stressing room.

I still think he was a desperate fool for taking the job.

Yep, all of that pretty much sums up why I didn't want him back, I don't think he'll get time to mold a squad as they've spent a fortune already, back 3 or 4 is always the give away with Poch, he changed formation for the first time in the league today and if he changes again to a 3rd change in 6 games next week I genuinely think he's done already.

He absolutely is a fool for taking that job, he's an excellent project coach that doesn't really want to be one anymore, I get the feeling he thinks he deserves a club that signs big money players.

 

[C-oops]

Has his English regressed? I don’t know if it’s cos he’s been away for a few years or if the stress is getting to him

I was thinking this

 

[O'Brien]

He absolutely is a fool for taking that job, he's an excellent project coach that doesn't really want to be one anymore, I get the feeling he thinks he deserves a club that signs big money players.

A bit like how he thought he deserved to write a book…

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

In his defence, his English is poor.

So he is going to speak in cliches and basic phrases rather than anything really insighftul.

However, NOT in his defence! I am adament he did not need to take that Chelsea job like others believe. Sevilla, Dortmund, Napoli...just a few clubs that would have suited him and what he does.

I think even Villa would have been a great job for him.

I Didnt want Poch back and I believe he will fail on 3 basis that I know about him.

1. Style of play.

As many of us have already stated. In 2013, his approach was refreshing and not many teams were doing it. Teams even looked to dominante possession or stay compact and go long. Poch was the anthesis of that.

The best coaches then were Pellegrini, Van Gaal, Wenger, Mourinho, AVB. Either long in the tooth or simply better than the likes of Allardyce, Megson, Pulis etc but nothing special.

2. Time.

His first year with us was rough.

We got Knocked out of FA Cup by Leicester and were boring. We struggled for goals and we only occasionally pressed well. Bar the Chelsea and Arsenal wins we were largely boring to watch.

It started to really click by the second season but even then it took 7 or games to get going.

Poch isnt an immediate worker. He needs time to sort a mess out and get the squad to how it needs to be and play the way he wants

3. Settled 11.

When Poch finally got a settled 11 with us, that is when he shined.

Think about the best 11 he had with us and it was pretty much that 11 week in week out. Same CBs, same WBs, same front 3.

As soon as the squad started to grow again he started tweaking the system and he looked bereft of ideas. We were not our usual vibrant selves.

Wanyama and Dembele were big misses but we looked so short of ideas in attack.

I think you can apply all of these things to Chelsea.

1. Style of play - Not sure he knows what he wants. Back 3? Back 4?

2. Time. Potter sacked after a few months for similar football and results.

3. Settled 11. He doesnt even know what that is yet. Even if he gets it, he will have about 10 players going to their agents and Bohely complaining and before you know it you have a poisonous stressing room.

I still think he was a desperate fool for taking the job.

All good true points mate but disagree on the last point, the guy and his family live in London so on that basis as well as the pay it made sense for him to take it, win win for him really no matter how it turns out.

 

[rossdapep]

Yep, all of that pretty much sums up why I didn't want him back, I don't think he'll get time to mold a squad as they've spent a fortune already, back 3 or 4 is always the give away with Poch, he changed formation for the first time in the league today and if he changes again to a 3rd change in 6 games next week I genuinely think he's done already.

He absolutely is a fool for taking that job, he's an excellent project coach that doesn't really want to be one anymore, I get the feeling he thinks he deserves a club that signs big money players.

Yeah.

I dont think he is an elite coach for an elite club.

That is probably diminishing what he did with us but it is about fit.

Poch suited us at the time cause we had some talented young players but some poisonous older ones and needed someone to tap into the younger ones and pull in the right direction.

More than anything it was his attitude and management style that did that.

But you can only do that when you have a straightfoward base of players.

For example with us we had Rose, Walker, Eriksen and Lamela. All young and talented but being pushed down by older heads.

Kane and Mason emerged and then the new core was established with any player that was an older influential head getting sidelined

The other factor was that we didnt recruit many.

In fact, Poch only got Vorm, Davies, Stambouli, Dier and Fazio. No real outlay there and three of them mostly been investments.

That gave Poch a clearer head to see what he had and needed. Who was on board, who fit his system etc.

If we had have brought in 10 new players and had Poch been forced to make all the previous signings work (Capoue, Soldado, Paulinho) I think he would have struggled.

Its hard to find the balance with so many players to observe