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Hoddle&Waddle

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I hope Soldado can come good, but I'd swap him for Kruse in a heartbeat given the offer and in the context of our current manager's tactics. I honestly don't see any compatibility between he and Poch whatsoever, and don't see why so many think Poch is going to somehow "fix" him. Not saying it won't happen, but just that I don't see a connection there.
I wouldnt go that far. Although I too am doubtful Soldado will 'come good' he is still worth a lot of money to the Club.
 

crokey

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Sorry, are you saying Harry Kane is better than Max Kruse? As in, German international Max Kruse. Kruse from Borussia Mönchen Gladbach?

No. Soldado and Adebayor are better than Kruse, it's only worthwhile buying him if we are gonna loan Kane and even then there's bigger priorities than buying a 7/10 striker when we have a youngster who's maybe pushing 6/10.
 
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DaSpurs

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I wouldnt go that far. Although I too am doubtful Soldado will 'come good' he is still worth a lot of money to the Club.

Absolutely right, financially speaking that'd be a stupid trade. I should have clarified I meant on a strictly footballing basis, with regards to the context of our current squad and impending tactics and no consideration of net values.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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Absolutely right, financially speaking that'd be a stupid trade. I should have clarified I meant on a strictly footballing basis, with regards to the context of our current squad and impending tactics and no consideration of net values.
Ok, its food for thought for sure.
 

crokey

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Just an absolutely pointless purchase, save ourselves the 10m and put it towards a potential worldy left forward rather than a good but nothing special striker. We already have Soldado and Ade ffs, left forward we have... who?

What's the point in buying Kruse for 10m and a 10m left forward when we can just put the 20 towards going for Griezmann, or paying Tevez' wages or something?

You know, a first team player in a position we really need improving, rather than further strengthening one of our strongest positions... It's like buying Schneiderlin but then not selling any of of our midfielders?

We've already got plenty of 7/10's, either stump up for another 9/10 or just don't bother and wait until we can.
 

SandroClegane

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Just an absolutely pointless purchase, save ourselves the 10m and put it towards a potential worldy left forward rather than a good but nothing special striker. We already have Soldado and Ade ffs, left forward we have... who?

What's the point in buying Kruse for 10m and a 10m left forward when we can just put the 20 towards going for Griezmann, or paying Tevez' wages or something?

You know, a first team player in a position we really need improving, rather than further strengthening one of our strongest positions... It's like buying Schneiderlin but then not selling any of of our midfielders?

We've already got plenty of 7/10's, either stump up for another 9/10 or just don't bother and wait until we can.
You'd rather have Tevez, who's a mercenary pushing 30, instead of a young german international that could lead the line for years to come? I mean, we're not getting either but you're just talking out of your ass at this point. You can't actually believe some of the stuff you type.
 

spurs9

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I hope Soldado can come good, but I'd swap him for Kruse in a heartbeat given the offer and in the context of our current manager's tactics. I honestly don't see any compatibility between he and Poch whatsoever, and don't see why so many think Poch is going to somehow "fix" him. Not saying it won't happen, but just that I don't see a connection there.
What makes you think Soldado won't fit Poch's tactic but Kruse will?
 

spurs9

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You'd rather have Tevez, who's a mercenary pushing 30, instead of a young german international that could lead the line for years to come? I mean, we're not getting either but you're just talking out of your ass at this point. You can't actually believe some of the stuff you type.
He isn't what I would class as young for a footballer. He is 26.
 

crokey

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You'd rather have Tevez, who's a mercenary pushing 30, instead of a young german international that could lead the line for years to come? I mean, we're not getting either but you're just talking out of your ass at this point. You can't actually believe some of the stuff you type.

Yeah I would because this argument of do x for "years to come" is bullshit anyway. I remember people saying Lloris will be our keeper for 10-15 years... Or if we signed Griezmann we would have Eriksen, Griezmann and Lamela behind the striker for 10 years... Yeah right, what a load of nonsense. Modern players stay at a club for 2-4 years and anything over that is an anomaly.
 

DaSpurs

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What makes you think Soldado won't fit Poch's tactic but Kruse will?

From what I've seen of Kruse he does a considerable amount of attempting to disrupt forward play from the opposition, while Soldado was quite static for the most part in defense this past year. Soldado also isn't the lane-runner who feeds off receiving passes in behind, as Lambert was. I just don't see any tenet to his game as directly compatible with Poch whatsoever.
 

spurs9

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From what I've seen of Kruse he does a considerable amount of attempting to disrupt forward play from the opposition, while Soldado was quite static for the most part in defense this past year. Soldado also isn't the lane-runner who feeds off receiving passes in behind, as Lambert was. I just don't see any tenet to his game as directly compatible with Poch whatsoever.
Fair enough, but the Soldado of last season was a poor reprsentation of the real Soldado (due to poor tactics, lack of confidence etc). Soldado is actually great at running the channels (as he did at Valencia) and is a hard worker too. IMO, Kruse is a slightly harder working but less talented than Soldado with a few of the same traits.

If we can get the confident Soldado we saw at Valencia, I would take him over Kruse any day.
 

DaSpurs

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Fair enough, but the Soldado of last season was a poor reprsentation of the real Soldado (due to poor tactics, lack of confidence etc). Soldado is actually great at running the channels (as he did at Valencia) and is a hard worker too. IMO, Kruse is a slightly harder working but less talented than Soldado with a few of the same traits.

If we can get the confident Soldado we saw at Valencia, I would take him over Kruse any day.

You're absolutely right, but Valencia also played a much more spacious system than we did last year and Poch did at Saints.

I'm not necessarily saying he won't work under Poch, simply that as of now I see no concrete reason for why so many on here are elsewhere are hopeful that Poch will be the one to make him click. He very well may, but I just don't see that connection from evidence that lends that hope or belief.
 

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Fair enough, but the Soldado of last season was a poor reprsentation of the real Soldado (due to poor tactics, lack of confidence etc). Soldado is actually great at running the channels (as he did at Valencia) and is a hard worker too. IMO, Kruse is a slightly harder working but less talented than Soldado with a few of the same traits.

If we can get the confident Soldado we saw at Valencia, I would take him over Kruse any day.


The amount of work he gets through is one thing - he doesn't get it in the net much though. Agree with posters above, not good enough for us. If we want a young German striker we should look at Volland or Lasogga.
 
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