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wadewill

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We will see.

Son is 31, and has played primarily on the left for most of his career, and is coming off a relatively down year.

Richarlison is younger, and also plays on the left, but does play as a 9 for Brazil.

If Kane leaves, I suspect Richarlison will assume his role as the #9 - as he did yesterday. Son will continue to play on the left, and occasionally be spelled by Solomon - unless Son never regains his form, in which case he could be replaced by Solomon. I think we will sign another striker to back up Richarlison.

Lets hope Kane does not leave, and is open to a new deal.
Son will be 30 soon
 

bubble07

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Hard pass for me. Firstly, on last years form he shouldn’t be a nailed in starter, and secondly I don’t see captaincy qualities anyway. Kane, Bentancur, Romero all genuinely nailed on starters and better options

Romero I don't think speaks English so that should rule him out
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Actually surprised by the amount of people suggesting Son. Can be a great player bit there’s no captain there for me.

Before anyone says it, I know, he captains his country, but I think being an international captain is different from being a club captain.

I feel he’s one of those players that does better when he can just play his game.
Agree also he’s 30 and at some point will start declining. I’d like a young captain who can be our captain for a while to come (if not Kane).

Bentancur for me with Bissouma vice.
 

robertgoulet

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Certainly seems to me, based on the AG article from today, that Bissouma is a favorite for it.
 

SPURSLIFE

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If they stay and play and Kane goes the obvious captains for me are PEH or Dier. Both are strong personalities and vocal. However if all three move on then I would pick Maddison, he's intelligent and can lead by example as Kane has done.
 

Barmby Army

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We've really got ourselves in a mess with regards to leadership. Not necessarily the biggest problem in the world if the group is self-motivated, and it provides an opportunity for others to step up, but it's an issue nonetheless. Most of the obvious choices are either unlikely to be regular starters (Dier, Davies, Skipp) or likely to leave (Hojbjerg).

Regardless of what you think of Hojbjerg and Dier as players, losing either of those on top of Lloris and Kane would be a huge mistake IMO. Hojbjerg in particular is exactly what you want from a captain, the question is whether he is a good fit for the new system.

I wouldn't be at all against having Davies as club captain with someone else captain when he's not playing, but even then I don't see any obvious choices. The only ones that spring to mind as possibilities are Son (purely on profile and tenure, I don't think he's a natural leader at all), Romero (as has been mentioned, I don't think he speaks great English), Bentancur (again, question marks over his English but does seem like a leader) and, an outside bet, Porro (hasn't been at the club very long, but another natural leader).

Given the lack of options available, I'd really be looking at incoming transfers with the captaincy in mind. Give greater consideration to Laporte, Andersen and Kilman for the centre back signing, all leaders with huge PL experience. All great players as well, Kilman has developed into a very good centre back over the past couple of years.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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We've really got ourselves in a mess with regards to leadership. Not necessarily the biggest problem in the world if the group is self-motivated, and it provides an opportunity for others to step up, but it's an issue nonetheless. Most of the obvious choices are either unlikely to be regular starters (Dier, Davies, Skipp) or likely to leave (Hojbjerg).

Regardless of what you think of Hojbjerg and Dier as players, losing either of those on top of Lloris and Kane would be a huge mistake IMO. Hojbjerg in particular is exactly what you want from a captain, the question is whether he is a good fit for the new system.

That's a fair take.

The flip side is we have won the square root of fuck all with their leadership - so how important is it?
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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If they stay and play and Kane goes the obvious captains for me are PEH or Dier. Both are strong personalities and vocal. However if all three move on then I would pick Maddison, he's intelligent and can lead by example as Kane has done.
Maddison would be pretty low on my list. Good player, but he, himself, is still trying to find his place amidst the squad. I can't see him exhibiting the kind of leadership that Ange will be looking for in such a short time.

Bissouma remains my front-runner, followed by Son.
 

Dan Stallworthy

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Love Son but he should not be the new captain.

You need a captain to be consistently brilliant as well as being a leader on the pitch and I don't think Son is either of those (lately, anyway).

Bentancur would be my pick if he was fit, Bissouma as well, I always think having a midfielder as captain just makes sense.
 

Rout-Ledge

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Does it matter that much who wears the armband? Genuine question.

I would give it to Bentancur and Son as vice (assuming Kane is off).
 

Barmby Army

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That's a fair take.

The flip side is we have won the square root of fuck all with their leadership - so how important is it?
Another fair point, but I'm not sure their leadership was really the issue. FWIW I think Dier's slump wasn't as bad as people make out and Hojbjerg is less about performance levels and more of a culture war at this point - he generally does a good job of what he's asked to do, but a lot of fans see him as the embodiment of the sluggish play and general stasis of the club over the past few years.

I think there are a lot of players who can - that's not to say *will*, obviously - improve in a new system, in a new environment, with new players alongside them. Hojbjerg and Dier in particular strike me as players who could get a new lease of life. AP's system is so far removed from what we've been doing for the past five years that there's limited use in judging players' suitability for the new system by their performances in the old system. Obviously that works both ways, though - Davies in particular might be one who is less suited to the new system and can't perform to the same standard.
 

SPURSLIFE

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Maddison would be pretty low on my list. Good player, but he, himself, is still trying to find his place amidst the squad. I can't see him exhibiting the kind of leadership that Ange will be looking for in such a short time.

Bissouma remains my front-runner, followed by Son.
It might do Maddison a power of good for his form knowing he's been trusted with the band. I agree Bissouma might be a good choice but not Son. He's very much a confidence player but wears his heart on his sleeve. Not one to instill confidence and could effect his form.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Another fair point, but I'm not sure their leadership was really the issue. I think there are a lot of players who can - that's not to say *will*, obviously - improve in a new system, in a new environment, with new players alongside them.

Hojbjerg and Dier in particular strike me as players who could get a new lease of life. AP's system is so far removed from what we've been doing for the past five years that there's limited use in judging players' suitability for the new system by their performances in the old system. Obviously that works both ways, though - Davies in particular might be one who is less suited to the new system and can't perform to the same standard.
I like Dier and Hojbjerg, and even Davies.

But, Hojbjerg looks likely to leave, and Dier and Davies both look destined to reserve roles.

I think Ange will count on their leadership, if they stay, but none are really in contention to be captain.

Same with Bentancur - who I see a lot of people naming - he is training away from the squad, and while he too can provide leadership when he is around, I don't think he is in a position to show that leadership to Ange.
 

Jamturk

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It has to be Sonny, ticks all the boxes.

Senior pro, Captains national team, Long time servant, actually wants to be at the club, everybody loves him.
 

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If Kane leaves I think the idea of Davies as club captain with Bissouma as vice captain stepping up when Davies not on the pitch is one I could support.
 
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