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rossdapep

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I think this relegation talk is just as OTT as thinking a few good players gets us back up there.

We are obviously in a mess and our board are incompetent.

But it does look like they have taken measures to correct it (data, consultations etc).

But the bigger factor is that clubs like Newcastle and Leeds had owners that simply stopped funding the team. Ashley wanted to sell, therefore did not want to invest further and Leeds couldn't.

Sunderland and now Everton got themselves into the messes they had because they overspent and paid ridiculous salaries thinking theyd have success off that.

We don't operate like that. And we have reactive owners which means the minute we are in big trouble they'll do something drastic to save their investment.

They won't ever stop protecting that.

But the flip side is that thatll never make big compromises to make success happen.

So the worst it would get for us is to hover above relegation without quite going in. A bit like Palace this season.

The best is probably scraping CL football.

Hopefully Munn coming in and this supposed 'inquest' means that they are at least trying to understand how to make better calls.
 

jay2040

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What if Rodgers still has a good relationship with Maddison and Barnes and brings them both to Spurs?

I'm not a fan but the above might help stabalise the club alongside a good GK and CB.
Even if he is blowing the whole team before a game still don't want him!
 
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Not sure how you lump Mason, Ange, and Rodgers in the same general category. One has unquestioned love and understanding of the club but lacks experience. One has the experience but lacks love for the club. And the other is a question mark.

Based on your posts in this thread you and I have differing opinions on Ange and whether or not he'd be a good hire...which is obviously normal during a process like this. You may dislike all three of those guys. But the pros and cons of each one couldn't be more different from one another.
Not true. The one thing that they have in common is they are the three most divisive candidates by far.

Look around. I understand some people like Ange. Lots don't too. This opinion is echoed all throughout social media. Same goes for Mason and Rodgers. They aren't the most popular candidates either.

Levy hires one of the divisive candidates and it goes wrong it could get bad. Empty stadiums always follow in situations like these. Fan protests too. I don't know if you missed all the Levy out banners and get out of our club chants but people aren't pleased. This just isn't a social media phenomenon.
 

arunspurs

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Get Gallardo that is all
Or Abel Ferreira … if it’s going to be a non English speaking candidate.

Ferrira has now won Copa Libertadores twice with Palmeiras

Brighton approached him when they sacked Potter but he wasn’t interested then. Now PSG also looking at him

IMO both him & Gallardo are great candidates if language isn’t a concern. But sadly I doubt we will even have them in shortlist
 

nedley

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The wildest thing for me that I can’t help coming back to is that if Levy really wanted he could get Nagelsmann or Gallardo or Enrique or Poch* or Slot* (not anymore but point still stand). There was and still is nothing stopping him aside from himself. There is no justifiable reason, no insane buy out clause, no unreasonable demand or unmanageable ego (aside from himself). The reason we are even remotely considering Potter or Mason etc is because Levy can’t look past himself.

For that reason alone I just don’t care anymore. If he doesn’t have the awareness to sacrifice some of his control for the better of the team it’s ultimately completely pointless. Ange or Potter or even Rodgers. What does it matter. Ultimately at this point we are Daniel Levy FC and until he ether relinquishes control to those that actually know what they are doing or gets kicked out nothing will ever change.

The only thing I know is once Kane leaves next summer (as I think he will ride it out and move on a free for better pay) we will likely drop into the bottom half of the table then sponsors etc will start getting nervous about putting money into us. If money starts drying up just a little then that is the only time we might see a change where it matters.
There was no excuse not to get Slot. Not one.

If you can't get a manager from Feyenoord then something is awry.

And no, it's not arrogant to think so imo.
 

barry

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I'm pretty jazzed about Posty now tbh. Been watching a few YouTube vids, and I'm liking what I'm seeing.

To me being a manger is as much about communication as tactics.

Most managers know what tactics other managers use, there's no real secret sauce. A mangers most important role is finding a clear, and concise method to imbue his tactics on the players, and inspire them to give 100 percent on the field. Posty seem to have the charisma, and the training methods, to do just that, as he's done it everywhere he's been. I mean the man got Zebra fc playing like Barcelona, which is impressive in of itself, regardless of the opposition.

So while not my first choice initially, I've got a good feeling about the dude now.
 

lobob8

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I'm pretty jazzed about Posty now tbh. Been watching a few YouTube vids, and I'm liking what I'm seeing.

To me being a manger is as much about communication as tactics.

Most managers know what tactics other managers use, there's no real secret sauce. A mangers most important role is finding a clear, and concise method to imbue his tactics on the players, and inspire them to give 100 percent on the field. Posty seem to have the charisma, and the training methods, to do just that, as he's done it everywhere he's been. I mean the man got Zebra fc playing like Barcelona, which is impressive in of itself, regardless of the opposition.

So while not my first choice initially, I've got a good feeling about the dude now.
Ted Lasso vibes from this. Not saying he's not obviously a decent manager for the level he's gotten himself to. But he is a huge risk and being a good communicator isn't enough imo.
 

glacierSpurs

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TBH, the showing of noses to Ange by some our fans are EXACTLY why we crashed out of the recent tournaments by the 'lesser' teams. Fans and club alike in thinking we are too good for them.
 

$hoguN

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Perhaps part of the delay in appointing a DoF and manager is that the board is waiting to see if there are any other candidates that might suddenly become available like Tuchel (wouldn’t be my top choice)…?
Don’t kid yourself, the reason for delay is no-one wants to work in these positions when Levy thinks he knows better. Let’s not act like we have a master plan when all the information we are getting from source is that we don’t.

I’m really not sure who we can get that is of the quality we need
 

Stamford

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What if Rodgers still has a good relationship with Maddison and Barnes and brings them both to Spurs?

I'm not a fan but the above might help stabalise the club alongside a good GK and CB.
Rodgers has just played a huge part in relegating Leicester. He shouldn't be anywhere near this job
 
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barry

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Ted Lasso vibes from this. Not saying he's not obviously a decent manager for the level he's gotten himself to. But he is a huge risk and being a good communicator isn't enough imo.
Everyone's a risk to some degree, but he's got players far worse than everyone on our books, playing high tempo, cohesive, attacking football.

To me he oozes self assurance and charisma, an overlooked, but important trait in top managers. He seems a leader of men, who men want to follow, and die for, metaphorically speaking.

He could be the next Jesse Marsch but If we're doomed anyway, we might as well go out with a flourish.
 

RobjDerby

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It’s cute how some are getting excited by potential line ups, YouTube and tactics under “manager x” , and still seem blind to the environment that manager will have to work in.

It’s practically irrelevant which manager we get, as the last 20 years have shown.
Don’t do it to yourself.
 

spurmin

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There was no excuse not to get Slot. Not one.

If you can't get a manager from Feyenoord then something is awry.

And no, it's not arrogant to think so imo.
And what if he never intended to come? What if he wanted to stay in Holland? Did he just use the links to get an improved contract?
Put your rationale into Harry Kane. Just because another club want doesn’t automatically mean another club gets. No matter how much money is on offer.
 

coy-spurs1882

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And what if he never intended to come? What if he wanted to stay in Holland? Did he just use the links to get an improved contract?
Put your rationale into Harry Kane. Just because another club want doesn’t automatically mean another club gets. No matter how much money is on offer.
the board have met him and he wanted to come if his club is properly compensated but those tw*ts doesn't want to pay
 
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TBH, the showing of noses to Ange by some our fans are EXACTLY why we crashed out of the recent tournaments by the 'lesser' teams. Fans and club alike in thinking we are too good for them.
We crashed out of tournaments because we have a shitty roster. We have a shitty roster because of Daniel Levy.
 

spursfan77

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Nobody credible has linked us to Ange right? So actually spurs haven’t released anything about the search yet and said they wouldn’t till after the season in the message?
I think speculating atm is pointless and all the noises suggest they are aware of the mistakes and aim to restore the culture

I agree. The media have shown they haven’t a fucking clue who it’s going to be so there is zero point listening to their speculation. It’s just a wait and see. It was never going to happen until June.
 

spursfan77

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While I agree with your last paragraph, what if Munn and the rest of the "footballing" brains of the board want Ange?

Then you'd want Levy to step in and do exactly what you don't want him to do? It's only an example but I feel like people are bending the narrative to who they want in as manager..

I’d question anyone these wallies want to appoint in fairness.
 
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