Next Manager Watch

[spursfan77]

Yeah, it was by someone who ended up deleting it in the end because he said "too much". It was a series of pretty comprehensive posts though. Even naming the person on the board(I had to Google them) who was conducting the initial interviews.

I can't remember the name of the poster but they are on here pretty regularly so i'm sure it wasn't BS.

Yes, I remember that now but not the content. It got put somewhere else as I read it on another site or social media so it is still out there.

Regarding the DoF it seems bizarre Edwards isn’t linked. Maybe he has not interest at all but you’d think getting him in and giving him the keys would be an obvious and smart move.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

...people like you continue to miss the point.

I wish people would stop hyperfocusing on this "he only won the title with Celtic", completely turning a blind eye to the bigger picture, or better yet, his past jobs.

His past jobs were in even worse leagues.

 

[Tezza1978]

You said that yesterday

 

[spursfan77]

I highly suspect Levy and the board members are spending their time in board meetings laughing and being entertained at our eternal loop of discussions. There really is no reason for them to be doing this a 2nd time.

It’s a third time. Levy took 6 months to appoint arnesen/Jol/Santini.

 

[bridgman]

Alex Ferguson won it by breaking the monopoly of the old firm in much the same way Slot has just done. He also proved himself in Europe.

Not in the slightest bit comparable to the Postecoglou circumstances IMHO.

So? How are Ferguson's achievements at Aberdeen "comparable" to the Premier League? Your exact words are "None of which that are even remotely comparable to the Premier League.". The UEFA Cup isn't the Premier League either. You seem to have arbitrary rules for what is and what isn't "comparable" to the Premier League.

No, Postecoglou hasn't exactly matched Alex Ferguson's achievements, but unlike you, I'm not going to dismiss his achievements in lesser known leagues and assign arbitrary rules for what constitutes being "comparable" to the Premier League. He's a good manager and has a proven track record of getting his players on-board with an aggressive, attacking style of football. That's more than enough to merit appointment over someone like Brendan Rodgers, who has zero chance of achieving anything meaningful here.

 

[thebenjamin]

Only 10-14 days to go.

 

[bridgman]

His past jobs were in even worse leagues.

By all means, keep getting suckered in to the notion that you must coach big teams in big leagues to be a good manager for Tottenham. After all, Conte was a true gamechanger for us...

Me? I'm going to continue believing in the wildcard.

 

[Trix]

We are just as close to the title, in terms of points, and thats nowhere near. So hardly not far off a relegation battle.

I agree, and don't for one second think we will be fighting relegation next season. That said it's easier to fall away a few places than it is to climb them in this league.

 

[fecka]

I barely even care who we get in anymore.
I'm at the point where I feel it barely matters who we hire now, and it's more important that we have any DoF and Manager in place in the next two or three weeks to even have a remote shot of doing something this season.

The way the wind is blowing I feel like this'll be worse than the 2021 search, however, so I'm bracing for disappointment.

 

[wrd]

Not all proven coaches are Mourinho or Conte. They didn't fail because they were experienced winners, they failed because they have specific ways of working and needed certain players to do so which the board did not provide. In essence they were extremely poor choices by the hierarchy who should have known what was required for them to succeed from the off.

There will certainly be up and coming managers that require specific player types that fit specific systems just as there are proven managers that are adaptable.

Some posters need to get out of this mindset that all experienced winners are a disaster waiting to happen and that the answer lies only in a youthful vibrant choice. It's all about individual fit and nothing else. Anyone with any shred of sense would take Pep over Nagelsmann and Nagelsmann over Big Sam because it's about ability and nothing else.

Yep this is actually why I've been put off Nagelsmann, it's absolutely nothing to do with Nagelsmann whatsoever, I think he's a fantastic coach. I think he just doesn't fit into what is needed for a Spurs manager through no fault of his own. Slot was the one who fit what is needed from a Spurs manager.

 

[roy@SC]

Completely agree. Any good skilled person in any field will tell you though it doesn't take long for you to lose focus and pride in what you are doing if you are being asked to achieve something special and half way through they half your funding or start giving you substandard/alternate materials to what you require. I'm not making excuses for either JM or AC they could/should have done better, and as you say they should never have been appointed in the first place if they were never going to be given what they would inevitably required. We 100% can not make this mistake again on the next guy. If JN wants what the the board aren't prepared to give he should be off the table.

At the same time the board should be giving everything they can give within their power to whoever it is regardless of whether they are a demanding coach or someone who will make do with what they are given. This is where I think we fall down every single time. IMO we have given the minimum we can get away with in most instances over the years, and ended up spending on panic buys to rectify situations that should never have occurred.

Spot on.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

By all means, keep getting suckered in to the notion that you must coach big teams in big leagues to be a good manager for Tottenham. After all, Conte was a true gamechanger for us...

Me? I'm going to continue believing in the wildcard.

Conte took over midway through a season and dragged us kicking and screaming into 4th.

Ange won't.

 

[UncleBuck]

I would welcome Ange at the club, but can we stop with claiming people who think his lack of experience in a comparable league is xenophobia. That sort of thinking comes from prejudice and lack of knowledge, we know that his previous leagues are much lower quality than the premier League, so people are entitled to measure that very strongly in their view. As I say, I'd be prepared to give him a go because I think his style could help us, but I fully get why people say 'mate, he's managed in Australia and Japan, now Scotland, it isn't high quality enough competition to come into spurs'.

Totally agree with this, remind me again just where was Wenger coaching when Arsenal appointed him, oh how everyone laughed back then….
I honestly don’t care any more, who comes in, those up top have killed it for me and to top it off my son has now asked for a different team kit for his birthday.
I said it before, as quickly as we were starting to pick up younger supporters you can lose them just as quick and it’s happening now.
It’s now 138 days out of 772 and counting since 14/4/21 whereby tottenham haven’t had a permanent manager in place….

 

[fecka]

Yep this is actually why I've been put off Nagelsmann, it's absolutely nothing to do with Nagelsmann whatsoever, I think he's a fantastic coach. I think he just doesn't fit into what is needed for a Spurs manager through no fault of his own.

Out of curiosity, why do you think that? I'm wondering as I'm of the opposite opinion so it'd be interesting to hear

 

[cookiemonster]

It's one thing to win the league, but he brought a newfound excitement to that club, and some fresh new ideas that European Managers would never even think to try, like bringing in players from the J-League.

We just finished 8th, and have been playing boring, uninspired football for what, 3 years now? I think we're due for some fresh ideas.

Stop reading at bringing players from J league

 

[Harrier]

So? How are Ferguson's achievements at Aberdeen "comparable" to the Premier League? Your exact words are "None of which that are even remotely comparable to the Premier League.". The UEFA Cup isn't the Premier League either. You seem to have arbitrary rules for what is and what isn't "comparable" to the Premier League.

No, Postecoglou hasn't exactly matched Alex Ferguson's achievements, but unlike you, I'm not going to dismiss his achievements in lesser known leagues and assign arbitrary rules for what constitutes being "comparable" to the Premier League. He's a good manager and has a proven track record of getting his players on-board with an aggressive, attacking style of football. That's more than enough to merit appointment over someone like Brendan Rodgers, who has zero chance of achieving anything meaningful here.

You’re completely missing the point!

SAF won the SPL, a traditional two horse race with a complete rank outsider. He also won the European Super Cup.

Like I saiid completely different circumstances to Postecoglou’s accomplishments with Celtic.

 

[Matrix]

Well, he's coached in the Australian League (to great success), the Japanese League (to great success), the Australian National Team (with relative success) and most recently, Celtic with success. At Celtic he brought in a group of japanese players, something no European manager would ever consider because the Asian Leagues are generally looked down upon as inferior. This proved to be a hugely successful point of difference.

I'm not saying Postecoglou is a guaranteed success at Tottenham, but at the very least he should be strongly preferred to the "been there, done thats" like Brendan Rodgers and co.

Chairman is that you?! COYS Daniel?

 

[Harrier]

Ange is that you?!

No it’s Brad, the new THFC PR Dept intern.

 

[chas vs dave]

I agree, and don't for one second think we will be fighting relegation next season. That said it's easier to fall away a few places than it is to climb them in this league.

Saying that, 3 out of 4 teams in the CL last season generally struggled. I think teams in the CL are going to struggle with maintaining high levels of performance.

 

[Whitey]

I'd like to think this is the case, but unfortunately Munn is clearly going to favour Postecoglu and will be in Levy's ear. I want Levy to piss off - at least from all football matters - but its harder when we haven't got a DOF as well as Munn.

I can even see a scenario where we have Munn and Ange and a transfer committee again rather than a proper DOF ***rolls eyes***

As long as Levy not on the committee and not required to sign off on any transfers.....Mmmmmm I'd take that right now, needs to be in writing and rubber stamped by THFC Trust and Spurs Community admins though