Next Manager Watch

[Tucker]

Have supported us through the Gerry Francis and Christian Gross years, this is just a return to the mean. Would not be surprised at all with a bottom half finish next year.

That’s the spirit.

 

[Dakes]

Let's give Big Ange a proper bedding in period and not have a kangaroo court against him early into his appointment.

Speaking of which, this might be a novel way to whip Tanguy into shape:

 

[beats1]

Ten Hag was 52 when United hired him and had never managed outside the Netherlands, bar a stint at Bayern’s reserves. Pretty sure appointing him would’ve been received positively. And Arteta had absolutely no managerial experience before Arsenal gave him the gig.

Ange has spent 27 years building his career. There have been no shortcuts and there has been no silver spoon. This isn’t someone coasting off Celtic’s successful history - it’s someone who’s worked exceptionally hard to get to where he is. Why is it considered fine that Xabi Alonso, a tremendous player, can be linked with us after six months of management, but a guy who’s built his career out of nothing is seen as unqualified? How is that fair?

I think he’s exactly what we need.

Ten Haag had that stigma of being a dutch coach but worth remembering this, he had European success, he had took a team with a tiny budget to the semi's and one minute away from the CL final

He also had spent a lot of time being an assistant manager under McLaren in holland being introduced to different ideas and etc.

I had concerns about Slot, but he took Feyernoord to a championship, EL conference final and EL quarters. Something that doesn't happen often with a third place dutch team

Arteta no doubt had a leg up, but he was a former player and worked under one best coaches of our time, it was his footballing education that got Arteta the job

Meanwhile Ange has experience but its been at a low level. The step up from Celtic to a top PL team is massive and sometimes good experienced managers make a step up too soon. Ange might soon be Tottenham manager but we still know little about him. He hasn't earned this role the hard way as people are making out, he's been fortunate to be given the 6th richest club in the PL with no PL experience and little European experience.

Xabi was linked, but it was never serious. Marcos Silva was linked but we weren't going after him.

What scares me is that we may have ended up with Gerrard in 2021 after Mourinho.

 

[Shanks]

Despite what the ITK and journos have been saying, it does seem like there was actually a plan and process followed throughout the last few months.

1. Identified main targets (Ange, Slot, Nagelsmann, Amorim, Enrique)
2. Sounded out their level of interest (JN disqualified because he wanted to wait and see what came about, probably said no)
3. Determined Slot was the guy, knocked back JN interest in the press.
4. Slot's compensation was too high, decided we didn't want to move forward (he also realized that we didn't want him enough to cause a scene)
5. Moved to Ange as next option, but knew we had to wait until after the treble was secured
6. Hire Ange within the week after Celtic's season ends

Not to bash any ITKs here about not having a plan but this seems exactly how a good business would operate at hiring level

I love the positivity, I really do, but I can’t see this like it was planned, feels more like a hit and hope.

so, if this chap is our new manager why then, are the club going to suddenly stop what they’ve been doing for years, recruiting bargains or offers and hope it works on the pitch or are they actually going to support a manager for once / I genuinly cannot see it being the latter.

we’ve seen it over the last 20 years, we won’t just cut someone from the squad, we’ll haggle over value and wages, and then throw out the same old drivel - it’s not easy to remove players or buy players etc etc

I’d love it more than most of it all actually happened, it history tells me this will be another 12/18 month shit show and it won’t be the new managers fault like the previous 4/5 either

 

[Bobbins]

Not the guy I wanted and I have concerns....but can we all just stop arguing now and fully get behind the new Manager. It doesnt mean Levy has been let off the hook, it's just that Ange derserves a genuine chance and we could all do with a fresh chapter.

Let's all hope this works out well and pop a few bottles tonight so that we can add the corks to our hats.

We haven’t even signed him yet, and you’re already demanding people stop debating the merits or otherwise of his potential appointment?

Not to be rude but no - you don’t get to decide when a football forum stops discussing and debating football matters, just so we can cheerlead a new fall guy.

I’ll support whoever comes in, but I reserve my right to keep saying whether I think giving him the job is a good idea or not, and will continue to discuss his strengths and weaknesses just like I would any other player or manager.

 

[Kirito]

That’s the spirit.

Just being a realist. Everton were almost relegated and Chelsea finished bottom half with a super talented squad. Decent chance with those teams bouncing that we get pushed down further.

Death spirals require strong intervention. Not sure we’re getting that.

 

[jay2040]

We haven’t even signed him yet, and you’re already demanding people stop debating the merits or otherwise of his potential appointment?

Not to be rude but no - you don’t get to decide when a football forum stops discussing and debating football matters, just so we can cheerlead a new fall guy.

I’ll support whoever comes in, but I reserve my right to keep saying whether I think giving him the job is a good idea or not, and will continue to discuss his strengths and weaknesses just like I would any other player or manager.

OK I let you reserve the right then !

 

[E17yid]

Should have been top choice all along for that alone.

If he drops a few C bombs in his opening interview vid I’ll be his fan for life.

“Look, I know I’ve got a job on my hands as there’s a lot of soft ***** in this team but as soon as the bald **** gave me a call I knew it was a job I couldn’t turn down.”

 

[beats1]

To people who support this hire. Im asking nicely to convince me that he is a good hire.

Can you show me evidence that Ange is:
Has previously worked well with youth players from the academy(not signed players)?
Has improved young players(not just one here and there)?
Managing a squad?
Managing a dysfunctional club(that's us btw)?
Organise a defence?
Has tactical flexibilty?
Can do a substitution before the 60th minute? (allergy for most Tottenham fans)

So far all I heard is great communicator and attacking football. Thanks

 

[spursfan77]

I love the positivity, I really do, but I can’t see this like it was planned, feels more like a hit and hope.

so, if this chap is our new manager why then, are the club going to suddenly stop what they’ve been doing for years, recruiting bargains or offers and hope it works on the pitch or are they actually going to support a manager for once / I genuinly cannot see it being the latter.

we’ve seen it over the last 20 years, we won’t just cut someone from the squad, we’ll haggle over value and wages, and then throw out the same old drivel - it’s not easy to remove players or buy players etc etc

I’d love it more than most of it all actually happened, it history tells me this will be another 12/18 month shit show and it won’t be the new managers fault like the previous 4/5 either

Yep. I just can’t see any way this doesn’t end in a way that isn’t one we are happy with. I really hope I’m proved wrong and he smashes it, but if we lose Kane, with no director of football looking after things and an unproven recruitment team alongside Levy and his antics, it has the potential to go spectacularly badly. I wouldn’t be surprised if we are back here in another 12 months looking for someone else. I really hope not and Postecoglou can get results and motivate a level of players he’s never coached before, but it is a huge ask for him.

 

[Dakes]

Can imagine Daniel will be having sleepless nights with "Beds are Burning" blaring from the Lodge

 

[Shanks]

To people who support this hire. Im asking nicely to convince me that he is a good hire.

Can you show me evidence that Ange is:
Has previously worked well with youth players from the academy(not signed players)?
Has improved young players(not just one here and there)?
Managing a squad?
Managing a dysfunctional club(that's us btw)?
Organise a defence?
Has tactical flexibilty?
Can do a substitution before the 60th minute? (allergy for most Tottenham fans)

So far all I heard is great communicator and attacking football. Thanks

Never even heard of the bloke until a week or so ago, but honestly dude he nor the club need to answer those, that’ll happen when he eventually gets his methods across (the answers).

the only question I want answering is how good is he at working with one arm tied behind his back

 

[E17yid]

Yep. I just can’t see any way this doesn’t end in a way that isn’t one we are happy with. I really hope I’m proved wrong and he smashes it, but if we lose Kane, with no director of football looking after things and an unproven recruitment team alongside Levy and his antics, it has the potential to go spectacularly badly. I wouldn’t be surprised if we are back here in another 12 months looking for someone else. I really hope not and Postecoglou can get results and motivate a level of players he’s never coached before, but it is a huge ask for him.

Yeah, I reckon we’re either going to be in a 2 points from 8 games scenario or he’s going to kill it. Which means we’ll probably do alright (7th first year) then sacked after 2nd year with a 6th place finish.

 

[Shanks]

Yep. I just can’t see any way this doesn’t end in a way that isn’t one we are happy with. I really hope I’m proved wrong and he smashes it, but if we lose Kane, with no director of football looking after things and an unproven recruitment team alongside Levy and his antics, it has the potential to go spectacularly badly. I wouldn’t be surprised if we are back here in another 12 months looking for someone else. I really hope not and Postecoglou can get results and motivate a level of players he’s never coached before, but it is a huge ask for him.

It was an impossible ask for mourinho and conte too, no manager has a hope in hell of being successful at spurs.

 

[Johnny J]

I love the positivity, I really do, but I can’t see this like it was planned, feels more like a hit and hope.

so, if this chap is our new manager why then, are the club going to suddenly stop what they’ve been doing for years, recruiting bargains or offers and hope it works on the pitch or are they actually going to support a manager for once / I genuinly cannot see it being the latter.

we’ve seen it over the last 20 years, we won’t just cut someone from the squad, we’ll haggle over value and wages, and then throw out the same old drivel - it’s not easy to remove players or buy players etc etc

I’d love it more than most of it all actually happened, it history tells me this will be another 12/18 month shit show and it won’t be the new managers fault like the previous 4/5 either

At the end of the day none of us on here (apart from me obv) has any power over who gets appointed.

Forget his name or last club for a moment. The way I see it:

• Plays attacking football
• Seems to be tactically astute
• Gets the best from even average players
• Charismatic
• Has got where he is the hard way
• Stepping up, not down
• Proved everyone wrong at his last job
• Plays attacking football
• Handles media brilliantly
• Humble but confident
• Positive energy
• Makes substitutions
• Fans fucking love him

Was he my first choice? Hell no. Will he succeed? No idea, tbh I doubt anyone can under Levy. Are there negatives? Of course, this is a big step up from SPL. Does he tick a lot of boxes? Absolutely.

 

[beats1]

Never even heard of the bloke until a week or so ago, but honestly dude he nor the club need to answer those, that’ll happen when he eventually gets his methods across (the answers).

the only question I want answering is how good is he at working with one arm tied behind his back

Oh no they will, they won't need to answer them to us. But they will to the youth players that are renewing. We lost players like Madueke because he saw consistently promises made by previous managers and no progression. We finally have some talented players coming through who want to know this

First team players wont want to spend a season on a manager learning his feet whilst on the job

Harry Kane whilst well regarded here, clearly took gave up on the club when Nuno was hired and got his act together for Conte. The club can't afford for that to happen again

 

[spursfan77]

Yeah, I reckon we’re either going to be in a 2 points from 8 games scenario or he’s going to kill it. Which means we’ll probably do alright (7th first year) then sacked after 2nd year with a 6th place finish.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s sacked if we don’t get champions league. That will be the remit from levy as with all our managers. And before anyone says the word “project”, there really isn’t going to be one

 

[Shanks]

At the end of the day none of us on here (apart from me obv) has any power over who gets appointed.

Forget his name or last club for a moment. The way I see it:

• Plays attacking football
• Seems to be tactically astute
• Gets the best from even average players
• Charismatic
• Has got where he is the hard way
• Stepping up, not down
• Proved everyone wrong at his last job
• Plays attacking football
• Handles media brilliantly
• Humble but confident
• Positive energy
• Makes substitutions
• Fans fucking love him

Will he succeed? No idea. Are there negatives? Of course, this is a big step up from SPL. Does he tick a lot of boxes? Absolutely.

These are the wrong questions that need answering though dude.

what we should be asking is something as simple as…

will the club back him and support him with his own players?

that way, he has a hope at least

 

[Johnny J]

These are the wrong questions that need answering though dude.

what we should be asking is something as simple as…

will the club back him and support him with his own players?

that way, he has a hope at least

I agree that's the most important question, but it applies whoever our manager is. It's a different point.

 

[synththfc]

I'd like to see him given a long-term contract. That would show the fans that he's going to be here a while and we should all get behind him