Next Manager Watch

[fishhhandaricecake]

Its not done until its signed and on the website as we know with Spurs anything can happen but would be very happy with this if so.

Of course any Manager appointment is a 'risk' but credit to the club for learning from the mistakes of the last 3 years and identifying a number of Managers all whom play attractive attacking mostly possession based high energy football and who are positive uplifting characters as that is exactly what the club needs.

2 year deal with an option to extend sounds good also.

I said at the start of this process if we end up with any of : JN, Slot, L.Enrique or Big Ange that all of them have pros and cons and all are on paper a good fit for what the club and fans and players need to start a new chapter and project and build in a positive direction.

He played 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 with the Australia National Team, on occasion he played a 3-4-2-1, he played 4-3-3 with Yokohoma and Celtic.

Will be fascinating as to how he'd plan to shape our squad and what that would mean for outgoings and incomings, possibly tapping into the Asian market.

Fingers crossed this one gets over the line and full energy and support behind Big Ange if so.

Ange Postecoglou: Coach Watch - The Coaches' Voice

Ange Postecoglou was named Tottenham manager in June 2023. We assess his tactical approach with Australia and in two brilliant years at Celtic

www.coachesvoice.com

 

[thelak]

He should be given those 2 seasons even if we finish 10th or so in his first season. However, what I fear is a horror start over the first dozen games or so. We all know he will be afforded as much time as anyone managing a big club will get in that situation, I.e none.

Next season should be a free hit. I guess we should be saying conference league football as a minimum but I think he should be given the following season even if he doesn’t achieve that goal. We’d have to be seeing some positive signs of improvement, though, and he’d obviously have to start delivering the following season and looking like he can at least get us competing with the top 4. It’s a big ask for someone so inexperienced in top flight fotball, I still can’t quite believe we’re going for someone like this but it is what it is, I hope he’s got the charisma and know how to do the job but I won’t lie, I massively worry about a scenario where we’re only picking up 2-3 wins in our first 10 games and the pressures on him big time.

The other thing that slightly annoys me is people saying “I can’t wait to see attacking football again” you have no idea if we’ll play attacking football or not or whether it’ll translate to this level. More importantly, none of you ***** care about attacking football at all really as we could be playing some vintage swashbuckling shit and I can fucking guarantee you if it looks like we’re teetering around the relegation zone after 15 games you won’t give a monkeys about attacking football, you’ll want results and you’ll want him gone.

If I had to guess I’d say he’ll get us to arohnd where we finished this year but maybe a bit lower which will be ok with me if I see some good signs of improvement but can’t say I’m pumped about going into next season but think we should start lowering our expectations.

Why does it annoy you when people say they want attacking football

says more about you than the posters!
I think it’s fairly obvious most people want attacking football that also ultimately wins games

and most people appreciate the transition from our current awful style to a more progressive style will have some setbacks

But no one is advocating the Ossie Ardiles days again

 

[E17yid]

Alright, I haven't read all of the previous 1500 odd pages, but I have read enough to gauge that Ange is probably not the top choice for everyone.

I moved to Brisbane in 2005 and watched the Brisbane Roar win back to back championships while he was manager. Now the level of football in the A-league was probably at a similar level of quality as League 1 back then (probably not much better now).
Ange had quite an effect on the club and I believe actually raised the standard in that league, crowds were up and due to the way the league works where you have a league winner and then play off's to win the actual championship, it meant both times they won the final they played at home to 52K crowds for both finals. The team didn't have the best players in the league, but he put belief into them, which got them over the line. it was also pretty entertaining football, the bloke has something about him.
If he does come and to me, it's still an if, he will want control over players that not only come in but also ones that are moved on, I think if he doesn't get that if we turn us down.
I personally think if he does get what he wants and agrees to sign, supporters will be pleasantly surprised.
With his perceived lack of experience. His winning the Asian cup with Australia is the equivalent of a manager winning the Euros with a country like Switzerland, It shouldn't be. underestimated.
Anyway, whoever gets the job, I just want a team that is allowed to play football, staying up to stupid o'clock to lose 3-1 at home to Brentford can really ruin your Sunday.

You think he’d turn us down if he didn’t have complete control over all outgoings and incomings? I can’t see that in a million years. Before you even go into the money this is an opportunity of a lifetime for him and one he’ll likely never get again if he turned it down.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

2 years with the option of a 3rd doesnt send out a great message

I suppose given his age and what has happened recently we have to be somewhat cautious, 2 year deal with option is ok but yea if we are truely confident in him a 3 year deal would've been nice but perhaps he only wanted max 2 years and we all see how it goes. 2 years can be along time in football, hopefully he has an ok 1st season and we see shoots of encouragement and we trigger the extra year next summer.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Considering Poch, JN and Slot were all there for the taking if the higher ups compromised one way or the other then ending up with Ange leaves me underwhelmed.

Poch and JN I understand, but what makes you think Slot is so much better than Ange? I can’t see that there’s too much between them.

 

[chas vs dave]

If this is signed in the next 2 days, are we all moving to the kane, or transfer rumours thread?

 

[E17yid]

Why does it annoy you when people say they want attacking football

says more about you than the posters!
I think it’s fairly obvious most people want attacking football that also ultimately wins games

and most people appreciate the transition from our current awful style to a more progressive style will have some setbacks

But no one is advocating the Ossie Ardiles days again

I didn’t say people wanting attacking football annoy me I said people who say they’re looking forward to seeing attacking football like it’s some kind of guaranteed outcome is what annoys me.

 

[Tottenham_God]

Hoping this gets done quickly. As an Australian, and a sports coach, I am so proud right now. Up the Ange, COYS.

A toast down City Beach it is !

 

[Tottenham_God]

Will he bring Harry Kewell along with him?

 

[timmytime]

A toast down City Beach it is !

5 minutes from my house!

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Considering Poch, JN and Slot were all there for the taking if the higher ups compromised one way or the other then ending up with Ange leaves me underwhelmed.

He'll get my full support but fingers crossed he turns out to be a Poch/Jol style appointment rather than a Nuno one.

JN was always going to be a very difficult sell especially with us not being in Europe at all next season, Poch back most of us agree was the right decision to not happen, Slot would've been great but we gave that a go and either didn't want to pay the 15-20mil compensation and/or Slot decided to stay and build on his project, Ange is a very good option and ticks a lot of boxes.

Reminds me of a big Aussie Martin Jol.

But we need to give him great support and time.

Hopefully a big overhaul of players to take place this summer.

 

[Trix]

Poch and JN I understand, but what makes you think Slot is so much better than Ange? I can’t see that there’s too much between them.

I think his performances in Europe were the difference for me. Couple that with the fact he wasn't at the biggest club in a stronger league in Holland and had to completely rebuild after selling half the team the season before. Now this doesn't mean he's a better coach than AP(we simply don't know), but we have far more to go on and for me that made him a much safer bet.

 

[muppetman]

Loving people saying "he's not my first choice, but I'll support him if it is him" or similar.

On a Spurs forum.
Well done.
Very gracious of you.

 

[E17yid]

I think his performances in Europe were the difference for me. Couple that with the fact he wasn't at the biggest club in a stronger league in Holland and had to completely rebuild after selling half the team the season before. Now this doesn't mean he's a better coach than AP, but we have far more to go on and for me that made him a much safer bet.

I think he was the safer bet but not by much. Slot has basically only been coaching since Covid so a massive risk on that front. At least Ange is a very seasoned coach albeit in weaker leagues. Both were very meh to me.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I didn’t say people wanting attacking football annoy me I said people who say they’re looking forward to seeing attacking football like it’s some kind of guaranteed outcome is what annoys me.

No one has said that, just that most people would prefer to see attacking football. In today's game a posession based attacking style is favoured and if implemented correctly is often more successful.

Results are important and there needs to be a balance but it will be bloody refreshing after the last 3 years to go and watch us play and see us actually try to keep the ball and attack and create chances and be brave rather than just camp on the edge of our box all game.

The CL game where Conte brought on Sanchez when we needed a goal and Mason and Kane were both seen basically saying wtf are you doing said everything about how bad a fit Conte was for us and our club, its not Tottenham.

I really hope we can move towards a 4-3-3 and bring in some exciting high energy wingers and a creative n.o8/10 as one of the midfield 3.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I think his performances in Europe were the difference for me. Couple that with the fact he wasn't at the biggest club in a stronger league in Holland and had to completely rebuild after selling half the team the season before. Now this doesn't mean he's a better coach than AP, but we have far more to go on and for me that made him a much safer bet.

Taking a manager who’s only managed in the Dutch league is arguably a riskier move than taking someone who’s had success in a number of different countries. Ange is better regarded at Celtic than any manager they’ve had in the last 20 years. He absolutely wasn’t on my list even a few weeks ago, but I don’t think I’d be much happier now with Slot.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I think his performances in Europe were the difference for me. Couple that with the fact he wasn't at the biggest club in a stronger league in Holland and had to completely rebuild after selling half the team the season before. Now this doesn't mean he's a better coach than AP(we simply don't know), but we have far more to go on and for me that made him a much safer bet.

100% with you. Not sure why the ship sailed - I think it's a real shame that it did. But such is life

 

[Johnny J]

Tottenham agree contract with Ange Postecoglou to make him manager

Tottenham have reached a verbal agreement with Ange Postecoglou to make him their manager

www.theguardian.com

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Well if you knew more about Base and who their employee's were you might understand it, although It's not for me to spell out. This is different to the Mendes situation, but it's not coincidence how many people rep'd by Base we have/ have had at the club. They are involved in most things we do now in one way or another.

Looks like Maddison is one of their clients. Wonder if that will help us if he is a target

CAA Base | CAA

www.caa.com

 

[Gareth88]

I don’t get this logic, if you can accept a manager from the SPL, why not a player that has succeeded in the same league?

This thread is on some high level copium.

I put a list together of some players who played in the SPL and played EPL over the years, some good, some not so good and the Rare quality player.

Gk: Arthur Boruc, Craig Gordon

Defenders: , VVD, Alan Hutton, Gary Caldwell, Kieran Tierney, Carlos Cuellar, Colin Hendry, Christophe Berra, Andy Robertson, Van Bronckhorst, Nathan Patterson.

Midfielders/ Wingers: Charlie Adam, John McGinn, Wanyama, Barry Ferguson, Sung Young Ki, Tugay, Ryan Christie, Shaun Maloney, Aidan McGeady, Scott Armstrong,

Strikers: Moussa Dembele, Odsonne Edouard, Tore Andre Flo, Viduka, Jlavic, Gary Hooper, Steven Fletcher, Kenny Miller.