Next Manager Watch

[Trix]

Exactly. This is the biggest problem. If the club are not behind the idea of Enrique then he shouldn't be on the list and Paratici should be moved on or demoted. Just feels like the club don't know what they want really, they seem to have vague boxes that they would like to tick but beyond that....

Personally I can't see FP winning his appeal anyway and neither can my source. Perhaps That's why I've not been told anything regarding Enrique? Best outcome for him from what I'm told by people who have more knowledge about this stuff than I do, is his ban possibly being reduced but it's unlikely to be reversed.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Personally I can't see FP winning his appeal anyway and neither can my source. Perhaps That's why I've not been told anything regarding Enrique? Best outcome for him from what I'm told by people who have more knowledge about this stuff than I do, is his ban possibly being reduced but it's unlikely to be reversed.

I don't think anyone, bar maybe Levy, would be surprised by that. I think everyone was expecting him to get some sort of ban even if it was a significantly reduced one. Thing is tho, if thats the case then i really hope we have an idea of another DoF that can come in swiftly. Im sure we don't, we are probably just sticking our heads in the sand hoping Paratici will make it through. But really, this should be addressed asap assuming Paratici will be revealed of his duties.

 

[felmani26]

I don't think anyone, bar maybe Levy, would be surprised by that. I think everyone was expecting him to get some sort of ban even if it was a significantly reduced one. Thing is tho, if thats the case then i really hope we have an idea of another DoF that can come in swiftly. Im sure we don't, we are probably just sticking our heads in the sand hoping Paratici will make it through. But really, this should be addressed asap assuming Paratici will be revealed of his duties.

On the basis that Paratici is unsuccessful in his appeal and inevitably forces the clubs hand on his future, I don't envisage us appointing a new DoF before Munn is instated officially as one presumes he would be the man leading the search much like Paratici was regarding head coach recruitment.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

On the basis that Paratici is unsuccessful in his appeal and inevitably forces the clubs hand on his future, I don't envisage us appointing a new DoF before Munn is instated officially as one presumes he would be the man leading the search much like Paratici was regarding head coach recruitment.

Thing is, it already seems Munn is leading, or at least very much involved in, the manager hunt. I really don't see us putting Kompany or Ange in our top 3 shortlist without him here. So why couldn't he do the same with a DoF. If we want to bring in a younger manager such as Slot or Kompany, they are going to need a DoF to back them up and help them structure the team come summer.

 

[Impspur1]

I don't know why but Enrique leaves me cold. I can't really see what he's achieved that would lead me to think he'd be anything other than another boring, disastrous appointment.

Feel a bit like this too. Absolutely no reason why just the least of my wanted list.

I read somewhere that it smacks of another Levy Vanity appointment and agree. I would really like to see something/someone raw, exciting on there way up. Someone we can start a journey with.

 

[jpascavitz]

Isn't that everything that's wrong with us summed up in 2 lines though? He's either the right man for the job and the whole club are behind it, or he isn't.

100% agree. What's the point in hiring a DoF if you're not going to trust them or their influence on footballing decisions?

No matter what some personally think about him or what they want as the outcome of his case, he was put in this position to directly influence decisions around the next manager and future/current squads.

Again, some may want FP gone or think he's been shit, but why would we as a club want to give another opportunity to someone without a footballing title the opportunity to have the pick?

 

[felmani26]

Thing is, it already seems Munn is leading, or at least very much involved in, the manager hunt. I really don't see us putting Kompany or Ange in our top 3 shortlist without him here. So why couldn't he do the same with a DoF. If we want to bring in a younger manager such as Slot or Kompany, they are going to need a DoF to back them up and help them structure the team come summer.

Yes i've contradicted myself a tad with a previous post suggesting that Munn surely would be involved 'in a capacity' for the recruitment process of the head coach so wouldn't be out of the realms of possibility he's liaising informally with potential DoF - especially ones out of work like Edwards and ones officially leaving like Mitchell.

 

[Hotspur33]

If I was Kompany I would show loyalty and stay with Burnley, working and continuing to learn in the premier league without the pressure and a good amount of goodwill.

I think he would be mad to take the Spurs job.

I can see merit in that argument. I don’t think it will be an easy decision.
I’d argue though, Kompany doesn’t want to be managing Burnley (with all due respect) for a long time, he will want to progress, so we would offer him that next step.
If he comes up with Burnley and they are in a relegation battle and the get twitchy and sack him, then he has to start again.
He comes to Spurs with the whole club on a huge downer, if he gets us playing just a tiny bit of exciting football he will be credited with changing the clubs fortunes.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

100% agree. What's the point in hiring a DoF if you're not going to trust them or their influence on footballing decisions?

No matter what some personally think about him or what they want as the outcome of his case, he was put in this position to directly influence decisions around the next manager and future/current squads.

Again, some may want FP gone or think he's been shit, but why would we as a club want to give another opportunity to someone without a footballing title the opportunity to have the pick?

I agree but and it’s a big but, the point of a DoF is to bring some football strategy and coherence to the whole thing. He has gone from Gattuso to Nuno, now apparently to Luis Enrique, this is wild and a bit mad quite Frankly. These are manager pick from a lottery not something that looks like a well thought out clear plan. You couldn’t imagine Brighton doing this.

Next DoF should drive the manager search but the next DoF should have a progressive and above all clear vision which is also communicated to fans. If they don’t why hire them.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Yes i've contradicted myself a tad with a previous post suggesting that Munn surely would be involved 'in a capacity' for the recruitment process of the head coach so wouldn't be out of the realms of possibility he's liaising informally with potential DoF - especially ones out of work like Edwards and ones officially leaving like Mitchell.

Happens to the best of us. Yeah, i do wonder if we would go for Edwards. Im not entirely convinced by Mitchel tbh but Edwards would be an excellent appointment. It would be a question of Levy tho, im not sure how he would feel about coming back. Maybe with Munn now in place hypothetically he might be more ready to be convinced. Ether way, I would sincerely hope it would be high up on the to do list and whoever we want would be in place by day after the end of the season.

 

[jpascavitz]

I agree but and it’s a big but, the point of a DoF is to bring some football strategy and coherence to the whole thing. He has gone from Gattuso to Nuno, now apparently to Luis Enrique, this is wild and a bit mad quite Frankly. These are manager pick from a lottery not something that looks like a well thought out clear plan. You couldn’t imagine Brighton doing this.

Next DoF should drive the manager search but the next DoF should have a progressive and above all clear vision which is also communicated to fans. If they don’t why hire them.

I agree with you as well, but that's why I was trying to caveat my post a few times with that in a vacuum.

If you as a staff thought he was the best man for the job, then you should be listening to his input whether he is in negotiations or not.

It's almost like an odd stand off where the board are nodding and listening to FP but secretly hoping he gets the boot so they can take over control over the next manager search haha

 

[Viking78]

Exactly. This is the biggest problem. If the club are not behind the idea of Enrique then he shouldn't be on the list and Paratici should be moved on or demoted. Just feels like the club don't know what they want really, they seem to have vague boxes that they would like to tick but beyond that....

I think there are two issues here. I think we all largely agree that the history of Spurs is as an attacking team and after Mourinho, i think that Levy was aiming to install another attacking coach. However, the appointment of Paratici seemed to move the search back to a more defensive/pragmatic coach and Nuno was appointed. Lets remember that Gattuso was also the preferred option of FP.
Paratici was certainly clear on the type of coach he wanted and Levy appears to have ceded control to FP in this regard.
Conte was perhaps a slightly opportunistic pick, but did fit with FP ideology.
From the current names and ITK, there definitely seems to be a clear objective to hire an attacking coach.
Maybe FP favours Enrique and, if so, that would still indicate that he has perhaps changed his stance on how the team should play. However, given his current position, id be slightly surprised if that was shared too openly.
There certainly seems to be some kind of plan behind this managerial search and there is some hope for next season. Understandably, the directors may have different preferences initially but like in any employment situation usually one stands out. That individual may knock the offer back so it's good to have a number of irons in the fire.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

I agree with you as well, but that's why I was trying to caveat my post a few times with that in a vacuum.

If you as a staff thought he was the best man for the job, then you should be listening to his input whether he is in negotiations or not.

It's almost like an odd stand off where the board are nodding and listening to FP but secretly hoping he gets the boot so they can take over control over the next manager search haha

The sad thing is based on his prior I trust him about as much as the board in this manager search. This new guy Munn who I presume will appoint the new DoF, I hope he appoints a DoF with a clear goal who fits the club. If not we won’t fix anything.

 

[marion52]

I don’t know much about the candidates but the club is in a mess and cannot afford another managerial mistake!
So I think Brendan Rodgers would be a safe appointment and he could steady the ship for 2-3 seasons at least.

 

[philll]

I don’t know much about the candidates but the club is in a mess and cannot afford another managerial mistake!
So I think Brendan Rodgers would be a safe appointment and he could steady the ship for 2-3 seasons at least.

You had me in the first half.

 

[jbstarr14]

I agree but and it’s a big but, the point of a DoF is to bring some football strategy and coherence to the whole thing. He has gone from Gattuso to Nuno, now apparently to Luis Enrique, this is wild and a bit mad quite Frankly. These are manager pick from a lottery not something that looks like a well thought out clear plan. You couldn’t imagine Brighton doing this.

Next DoF should drive the manager search but the next DoF should have a progressive and above all clear vision which is also communicated to fans. If they don’t why hire them.

I like them and I cannot lie…

 

[mil1lion]

If its between Kompany and Slot I would favour Slot. I'd like to see Kompany manage a season in the Premier League first. Slot is managing a higher level so think he's the best option. We can always get Kompany next summer if he's had a good year in the prem. You know we'll be back here again in 12 months. Besides if we get Slot imagine the great headlines.

Slot drop and roll, Spurs are on fire.

Slot, it's Hammer time. West Ham next for Spurs.

Slots Totts trot to the top.

Slot collaborate and listen. Spurs boss gives inspirational half time talk.

Slot in a rot as Spurs fail to have a shot.

Slot in a strop with Klopp as Lloris flops at the Kop with minutes on the clock.

Slop gets the chop.

Next manager watch 2024...

 

[Ossie85]

Have been reading that Enrique is Paratici's preference. Right from the off, Enrique has been the one I really don't want.

May I ask why?
Luis Enrique is not my preferred choice, but he's def the right kind of manager we should be looking for.

I believe every time we need to find a new manager, the discussions turn into a search for our savior, the messiah that will take us to glory. We want the either the most successful one available or the most obscure one in the hope he's an undiscovered gem. Everything in between is meh. Just like with players.

I don't think there's a right choice. All of them have their cons tbf. For the moment I think that we have a good shortlist (although personally I think not considering Gallardo is a travesty) where all of them preach the kind of football we want and need. Luis Enrique and Nagelsmann are the safest choices. Slot more risky, and Kompany a lot more risky.

My fear with Slot and Kompany (from the little I have seen) is that if our team doesn't buy into what they want fast, we are going to receive goals like crazy. One of the reasons we hired Mourinho and Conte is because we were conceding a lot of goals with Poch, and they knew how to set up a team defensively. This doesn't mean I want us to be defensive, but whoever we appoint needs to know that in the PL, if you don't defend well you will get punished a lot more than in the championship or the eridivisie.

 

[jpascavitz]

May I ask why?
Luis Enrique is not my preferred choice, but he's def the right kind of manager we should be looking for.

I believe every time we need to find a new manager, the discussions turn into a search for our savior, the messiah that will take us to glory. We want the either the most successful one available or the most obscure one in the hope he's an undiscovered gem. Everything in between is meh. Just like with players.

I don't think there's a right choice. All of them have their cons tbf. For the moment I think that we have a good shortlist (although personally I think not considering Gallardo is a travesty) where all of them preach the kind of football we want and need. Luis Enrique and Nagelsmann are the safest choices. Slot more risky, and Kompany a lot more risky.

My fear with Slot and Kompany (from the little I have seen) is that if our team doesn't buy into what they want fast, we are going to receive goals like crazy. One of the reasons we hired Mourinho and Conte is because we were conceding a lot of goals with Poch, and they knew how to set up a team defensively. This doesn't mean I want us to be defensive, but whoever we appoint needs to know that in the PL, if you don't defend well you will get punished a lot more than in the championship or the eridivisie.

Totally agree with you. In my mind Slot or Kompany COULD be the right choices but they are both taking a step up to a squad that has downed tools under previous managers. Can they command the room? I'd hope so, but it is a realistic risk of the situation. MY personal opinion is I'd love for us to take a risk on one of these two and really rebuild around a select core of the squad.

Nagelsman and Enrique have been around the block in terms of managing bigger clubs, but their cons may give supporters/boards less patience, maybe they would be stubborn in their ways, who knows. There are risks and rewards with every candidate at this point.

 

[RJR1949]

You had me in the first half.

I don’t know much about the candidates but the club is in a mess and cannot afford another managerial mistake!
So I think Brendan Rodgers would be a safe appointment and he could steady the ship for 2-3 seasons at least.

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