Next Manager Watch

[ssamme]

If Enrique had managed Barca, with Neyamr and Messi and won nothing then that would have been the bigger concern

You can easily flip that round to say he can only win stuff with a Messi, Neymar and Suarez, and then ask the question do we have three players of that quality and the rest of the Barca team in our Squad….. (prime Pique, Busquets, Inestia, Dani Alves, Xavi, I am guessing as well)

 

[SuperLuka]

His done the treble in Scotland the man has a magic stick !!!

That Gallardo according to his statue

 

[lobob8]

Should reset the poll again to just Ange, Enrique and maybe Rodgers/Potter

 

[jbstarr14]

It's fine. He's going to Tenerife with Ali Gold.

So Dante was wrong, and there is in fact a tenth circle?

 

[chas vs dave]

Or how about I advise you to not be so patronizing? And understand that I have the intellectual acuity to also use my eyes and brain to process information. Form my own opinions to go with what I hear? To have enough common sense to parse the difference between agenda and fact.

And do you really think after supporting us for 40 years I need some tit on social media or someone who professes on a message board to know what goes on behind the scenes, to impact my perspective of a team that has won one significant trophy in those 40 yrs?

The fucking facts speak for themselves. Loudly.

You said, and I quote:

"Turns out though that we are on a road to nowhere according to all the ITK here, elsewhere, in the press… and so on."

That isn't a fact, the itk/press isn't coming from first hand information. So, yes it can be affected by agendas, as it isn't a primary source.

I'm going to pull you up on facts, we have won 4 significant trophies since 1980.

Feel free to be pessimistic, however that's your outtake, I've sat in the stands since the late 90's and also have the 'mental acuity" to realise there has been success on and off the field. It can't be measured by trophies.

 

[RJR1949]

Based on every ITK on here, (elsewhere and inferences in the media), I can’t see a single reason to be positive about any appointment. They all universally agree that the show is being run by clowns. A house divided by idiocy, incompetence, narcissism, and greed. A house described that way will always fall. So, what’s the point and who cares who we hire? Because it sounds like each and every coach is simply managing the symptoms! The culture being described, sounds like is chronic illness, that is inoperable and is in the clutches of a terminal spiral.

So, really? Does any of this bullshit matter anymore? Sounds like ITKers are in unambiguous agreement that we are anchored in purgatory. I don’t see any reason really to get excited or annoyed at any appointment, as no matter who they are, it won’t fix the illness. That’s what tugs at my heart the most. This picture that has been painted is one of futility and failure. Why bother getting happy or distressed by Ange or Enrique or Potter or JN or De Zerbi or anyone? Sounds like all roads lead to nowhere as long as ENIC and Daniel are captaining the ship.

For me, hearing all of that has drained my love for the club, as it makes it impossible not to see shoots of hope dying before they even have a chance to flower.

The club is not the board.

The club is not the manager.

The club is not the team.

The club is the supporters.

I supported the club well before any of the current board, manager and team were born.

And I’ll support the team irrespective of who happens to be in charge.

The really awful times (like relegation in the 70s) make the good times sweeter.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

He’s got a good aura about him for a football manager. Don’t mess with him but hes an arm around the shoulder, father figure type as well. You could quite easily see the players taking to him. It’s not all about the big name

Man management in football I believe is more than half the battle, that and an eye for a player. I think big Ange has got as much chance as anyone

 

[Martin91]

Romano says Enrique is absolutely gagging for the Spurs job (don't know why tbh)

He’s probably just covering all basis

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I’ve been leaning towards Enrique, and I do think he’s a safer bet, but the one thing you could guarantee with Ange is that he’d give absolutely everything he has to succeed in this job. I’m sure Luis Enrique would give it a decent crack too, but when you’ve managed Barca and the Spanish national team you can’t make that same guarantee of heart and soul.

 

[bubble07]

Think I'm now fully on board the ange train so we can all probably anticipate a contract extention on better terms

He said he joined celtic that needed a major overhaul so he could mould his team how he wanted which has parallels with our dire situation

He will unite the fans as long as he doesn't stink the place out with boring football

He has worked with Munn which can only be a good thing

I think it's actually 50/50 whether he chooses us. He must be thinking there isn't much more he can do at celtic apart from do better in Europe which won't be easy with their squad. His goal must have been a PL club after Celtic and none of the other established top 5 would sign him so he is prob thinking this might be his only chance

If he is on holiday from Tuesday I doubt we will hear much for another week or so. He would consider it disrepectful to the celtic fans if news broke out tomorrow that he is leaving

 

[the stick man]

I have a 7 year old boy who plays for two football teams and his school. I go to the games, training etc. there is not a single other spurs shirt. In about 100 kids. Not one. When you talk to these kids about spurs, they know the club as losers who play poor football. There are three Brighton shirts. The kids parents do not support Brighton. The kids just liked watching them this year.
Those of you, like me, that remember spurs winning trophies in the past, well that is exactly what it is. The past. Too long ago now to affect a 7 year old kid. They don’t even know who Paul gascoinge is let alone Jimmy greaves

It isn’t fancy stadiums or good financial returns that attract fans to your club. It’s decent football with good attitude and ambition.
The current ambassadors of our great club would do well to think about that at the moment.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

I have a 7 year old boy who plays for two football teams and his school. I go to the games, training etc. there is not a single other spurs shirt. In about 100 kids. Not one. When you talk to these kids about spurs, they know the club as losers who play poor football. There are three Brighton shirts. The kids parents do not support Brighton. The kids just liked watching them this year.
Those of you, like me, that remember spurs winning trophies in the past, well that is exactly what it is. The past. Too long ago now to affect a 7 year old kid. They don’t even know who Paul gascoinge is let alone Jimmy greaves

It isn’t fancy stadiums or good financial returns that attract fans to your club. It’s decent football with good attitude and ambition.
The current ambassadors of our great club would do well to think about that at the moment.

Out of curiosity where do you live (roughly) I assume this ain’t in traditional Spurs locations like Enfield.

As for ambition I don’t think the board give a crap about that, on the pitch anyway or if they do then it’s just incompetence, while they are here we will be also rans.

 

[spursfan77]

Sounds like he's staying up there to me

I’m still not 100% convinced he’s coming and I think there’s a couple of twists left. I wouldn’t be surprised if next week we hear he’s signing a new contract on Monday or Tuesday and there a fucking huge meltdown and piss take and then by Saturday we are sat here talking about Enrique or even Nagelsmann and a new DoF being in the building.

Either it’s completely straight forward and we’ll speak to Postecoglou on Monday and give him the job tuesday or the above or similar will happen. Looking at our club and how they do things, either scenario could really play out. I wouldn’t like to hazard a real guess as to which it will be either. Mainly because we never seem to do the most obvious or straight forward thing (which would be just giving Nagelsmann the reigns and a DoF that’s acceptable to all parties).

 

[Shanks]

Out of curiosity where do you live (roughly) I assume this ain’t in traditional Spurs locations like Enfield.

As for ambition I don’t think the board give a crap about that, on the pitch anyway or if they do then it’s just incompetence, while they are here we will be also rans.

Im down in north Hampshire and there are lots of spurs fans this way

 

[For the love of Spurs]

I’m still not 100% convinced he’s coming and I think there’s a couple of twists left. I wouldn’t be surprised if next week we hear he’s signing a new contract on Monday or Tuesday and there a fucking huge meltdown and piss take and then by Saturday we are sat here talking about Enrique or even Nagelsmann and a new DoF being in the building.

Either it’s completely straight forward and we’ll speak to Postecoglou on Monday and give him the job tuesday or the above or similar will happen. Looking at our club and how they do things, either scenario could really play out. I wouldn’t like to hazard a real guess as to which it will be either. Mainly because we never seem to do the most obvious or straight forward thing (which would be just giving Nagelsmann the reigns and a DoF that’s acceptable to all parties).

My guess is he will turn us down then the club will run for an emergency appointment free agent like Luis Enrique or Gallardo (not suggesting they are not great managers but far from first choice for whatever reason by the board). At least the Nuno option this time might be a decent manager but it’s a far cry from Nagelsmann or Pochettino.

 

[Wearegoingtowintheleague]

I'm really not seeing it with Ange. I get that he says some positive things to players and that he wants to play attractive football. He is likable which is a bonus too.

However, with his record in Scotland being very similar to Neil Lennon's time managing there, i thought I'd look at his record at his previous club to see if I'm missing something.

From his time at Yokohama Marionos.

His PPG was 1.66

The two managers after him
Hideski matsunaga (only 5 matches mind) 2.40
Kevin muscat (86 matches) 1.95

Before him
He matched Erick Mombaerts 1.66
and Yashuhiro Higuchi 1.67

So looking at both his time at Celtic and Yokohama his stats really don't stand out.

Would we be looking at Kevin Muscat who has outperformed him at Yokohama or Neil Lennon who matched him at Celtic?

I'll back him 100% if he gets that job, but I'd be lying if I said I don't have major concerns, if things don't start well it's not like he has an amazing record that we can fall back on.

It has the makings of a perfect storm, a poor start by us, Chelsea getting off to a great start under Poch and Arsenal coming out the blocks flying and I hate to think how toxic things could become.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

Out of curiosity where do you live (roughly) I assume this ain’t in traditional Spurs locations like Enfield.

As for ambition I don’t think the board give a crap about that, on the pitch anyway or if they do then it’s just incompetence, while they are here we will be also rans.

Even in south east areas like Dulwich, Peckham, forest hill there are as many kids in Spurs shirts as any other club, probably more actually. I think Kanes a big part of that.

 

[KingNick]

I have a 7 year old boy who plays for two football teams and his school. I go to the games, training etc. there is not a single other spurs shirt. In about 100 kids. Not one. When you talk to these kids about spurs, they know the club as losers who play poor football. There are three Brighton shirts. The kids parents do not support Brighton. The kids just liked watching them this year.
Those of you, like me, that remember spurs winning trophies in the past, well that is exactly what it is. The past. Too long ago now to affect a 7 year old kid. They don’t even know who Paul gascoinge is let alone Jimmy greaves

It isn’t fancy stadiums or good financial returns that attract fans to your club. It’s decent football with good attitude and ambition.
The current ambassadors of our great club would do well to think about that at the moment.

Must be all those trophies Brighton have won recently and their Champions League appearances that has captured those kids.

 

[Yiddo100]

A nice article

 

[Sjhawuk]

I live in Gloucestershire, and there are many many kids at my sons school in spurs shirts, however they all have Kane on the back. Probably helps that he’s england captain, but I worry if he goes we will loose a lot of future fans.

kids these days follow players (Haaland, mbappe, and in past ronaldo, Messi etc) , more then the clubs these days and it’s probably going to be a long time before we buy world class players that new fans want to follow and support us because of that.