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Nicolò Zaniolo

King of Otters

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If FM is an accurate gauge of a player’s ability, which I think we can all agree it definitely is, I can tell you that Zaniolo has one hell of a long range shot on him.

Almost as good as Freddy Guarin.
 

TEESSIDE1

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If FM is an accurate gauge of a player’s ability, which I think we can all agree it definitely is, I can tell you that Zaniolo has one hell of a long range shot on him.

Almost as good as Freddy Guarin.

So did Malcolm yet he went and failed at Barca and is now rotting in Ukraine/Russia.

If you look at the successful attacking midfielders/forwards in the EPL they’re rapid and/or extremely skilful with a low centre of gravity and extremely difficult to get off the ball.

Zaniolo looks like a luxury, talented but not EPL compatible.
 

emiley heskey

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So did Malcolm yet he went and failed at Barca and is now rotting in Ukraine/Russia.

If you look at the successful attacking midfielders/forwards in the EPL they’re rapid and/or extremely skilful with a low centre of gravity and extremely difficult to get off the ball.

Zaniolo looks like a luxury, talented but not EPL compatible.

eriksen?
 

C0YS

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So did Malcolm yet he went and failed at Barca and is now rotting in Ukraine/Russia.

If you look at the successful attacking midfielders/forwards in the EPL they’re rapid and/or extremely skilful with a low centre of gravity and extremely difficult to get off the ball.

Zaniolo looks like a luxury, talented but not EPL compatible.

Mate Zaniolo is a strong big big lad and super skillful full of strong running. He is really difficult to get off the ball. Where he struggles is more in his percentage passing and all the nitty gritty stuff. Super talented lad though and would absolutly suit the PL. But he is still learning the game, he is a young talent who would contribute from day one, but we don't need him, so, I think its just tabs for now.

If the guy played in the Bundesliga or even in France people would be a lot more excited. Serie A has seriously been ignored as a league for a long time now, even though there is a lot of exciting talents coming out of it and Serie A clubs perform very well in Europe now.
 

TEESSIDE1

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Mate Zaniolo is a strong big big lad and super skillful full of strong running. He is really difficult to get off the ball. Where he struggles is more in his percentage passing and all the nitty gritty stuff. Super talented lad though and would absolutly suit the PL. But he is still learning the game, he is a young talent who would contribute from day one, but we don't need him, so, I think its just tabs for now.

If the guy played in the Bundesliga or even in France people would be a lot more excited. Serie A has seriously been ignored as a league for a long time now, even though there is a lot of exciting talents coming out of it and Serie A clubs perform very well in Europe now.

He is a good player but he just reminds me of Lamela too much. Serie A is predominately walking football... players have what would feel like an eternity to play the ball. You don’t get that time in the EPL... you would be launched into the stands by the time you want to play the ball. A lot of Serie A players have struggled with the intensity of the EPL. It’s not just Italy, look at how many flops have come over from France too... Ndombele barring a miraculous turn around is heading in the same direction as those who failed before him.

The best league to target for talent is Germany but they tend to cost a premium and there’s a lot of competition for the best youngsters and peak players.
 
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gavspur

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I feel like most people commenting haven't actually read the article.

Hey, fun Police, back off. We are appreciating the young guys talent that is his mum. We know he plays as a player, for a team, that sometimes like white... I mean what more do you want?

So lads, she is fine, right? I mean, proper fine.
 

TheVoiceofReason

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He is a good but he just reminds me of Lamela too much. Serie A is predominately walking football... players have what would feel like an eternity to play the ball. You don’t get that time in the EPL... you would be launched into the stands by the time you want to play the ball. A lot of Serie A players have struggled with the intensity of the EPL. It’s not just Italy, look at how many flops have come over from France too... Ndombele barring a miraculous turn around is heading in the same direction as those who failed before him.

The best league to target for talent is Germany but they tend to cost a premium and there’s a lot of competition for the best youngsters and peak players.

This is such a football cliche, so basically don’t buy players from France, Italy, Portugal, China, Africa, South America, and HEAVEN FORBID the Netherlands!
 

dagraham

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If FM is an accurate gauge of a player’s ability, which I think we can all agree it definitely is, I can tell you that Zaniolo has one hell of a long range shot on him.

Almost as good as Freddy Guarin.

I didn’t know Fit Mum was an accurate gauge, but considering our recruitment strategy of recent times we may as well go with it.
 

gavspur

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I didn’t know Fit Mum was an accurate gauge, but considering our recruitment strategy of recent times we may as well go with it.

Totally agree, if there’s one area we’ve always lacked in at Spurs, it’s deffo in the Fit Mum department.
 

doctor stefan Freud

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Can you bellends stop talking about his mum. I’m getting ads for ‘extra mature ladies escort agencies’ and my Nan now refuses to talk to me
 

C0YS

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He is a good but he just reminds me of Lamela too much. Serie A is predominately walking football... players have what would feel like an eternity to play the ball. You don’t get that time in the EPL... you would be launched into the stands by the time you want to play the ball. A lot of Serie A players have struggled with the intensity of the EPL. It’s not just Italy, look at how many flops have come over from France too... Ndombele barring a miraculous turn around is heading in the same direction as those who failed before him.

The best league to target for talent is Germany but they tend to cost a premium and there’s a lot of competition for the best youngsters and peak players.
I get the stylistic similarity of the German league to PL, though even this is overstated.

Recently we have hits like:
Pulisic, Soyuncu, , Auba, Sane, Hojbjerg, gundogan

Somewhere in the middle:
Vestergaard, Yarmolenko, Schurrle, Mkhitaryan, Xhaka

and misses like:

Haller, Joelinton, Gbamin, Keita, Socrates, Muto, Bernando, Hernandes, Karius

Mixed bag.

Italy.

Hits
Allison, F.Anderson, Salah

Somewhere in the middle
Pedro Neto, F,Anderson, Torriera, Rudiger, Jorginho, Zappacosta, Emerson

flops
Cancelo, Kean, Cutrone, Praet, Lemina, Hoedt

So for germany 6/5/9

Italy: 3/7/6

So both seem pretty similar. Germany with more hits, but also more out and out flops.

The point is not where they come from but do they fit the style. Italy is played in a more tactical considered way. Lamela, who is actually a success story, just not the player that some hoped, is an entirely different kind of player who was always going to find it a bit different. Zaniolo is a tank, pure power of a player, Lamela is tricksy, way better technically than Zaniolo but way less of a physical presence.

Zaniolo, stylistically looks like he would work. He looks like a PL player strong, dribbling focused game etc. This doesn't always work though, as sometimes peoples physicality can thrive in serie A but look average in the PL (look at Zaza, never the most talented player, for example). But Zaniolo has everything to suggest he fits in.

His question marks are the same in the PL as in serie A. Largly, will he turn his considerable talent into consistent output? Will he learn how to be more disciplined and work well in a team? Will he learn to play the easy balls when required. His passing definitely lacks consistency, but people said that of Coutinho, who was considered a bit of a headless chicken at Inter, before finding the PL more his style.

Ultimately, its a signing on talent and potential rather than showing consistency. They guys 20 and has yet to fully establish himself at Roma, but in terms of raw talent he is amongst the best in the league and his attributes look particularly ideal for the PL, though looks can be deceiving.
 

daryl hannah

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I get the stylistic similarity of the German league to PL, though even this is overstated.

Recently we have hits like:
Pulisic, Soyuncu, , Auba, Sane, Hojbjerg, gundogan

Somewhere in the middle:
Vestergaard, Yarmolenko, Schurrle, Mkhitaryan, Xhaka

and misses like:

Haller, Joelinton, Gbamin, Keita, Socrates, Muto, Bernando, Hernandes, Karius

Mixed bag.

Italy.

Hits
Allison, F.Anderson, Salah

Somewhere in the middle
Pedro Neto, F,Anderson, Torriera, Rudiger, Jorginho, Zappacosta, Emerson

flops
Cancelo, Kean, Cutrone, Praet, Lemina, Hoedt

So for germany 6/5/9

Italy: 3/7/6

So both seem pretty similar. Germany with more hits, but also more out and out flops.

The point is not where they come from but do they fit the style. Italy is played in a more tactical considered way. Lamela, who is actually a success story, just not the player that some hoped, is an entirely different kind of player who was always going to find it a bit different. Zaniolo is a tank, pure power of a player, Lamela is tricksy, way better technically than Zaniolo but way less of a physical presence.

Zaniolo, stylistically looks like he would work. He looks like a PL player strong, dribbling focused game etc. This doesn't always work though, as sometimes peoples physicality can thrive in serie A but look average in the PL (look at Zaza, never the most talented player, for example). But Zaniolo has everything to suggest he fits in.

His question marks are the same in the PL as in serie A. Largly, will he turn his considerable talent into consistent output? Will he learn how to be more disciplined and work well in a team? Will he learn to play the easy balls when required. His passing definitely lacks consistency, but people said that of Coutinho, who was considered a bit of a headless chicken at Inter, before finding the PL more his style.

Ultimately, its a signing on talent and potential rather than showing consistency. They guys 20 and has yet to fully establish himself at Roma, but in terms of raw talent he is amongst the best in the league and his attributes look particularly ideal for the PL, though looks can be deceiving.
So... you have just covered all bases...
 

King of Otters

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So did Malcolm yet he went and failed at Barca and is now rotting in Ukraine/Russia.

If you look at the successful attacking midfielders/forwards in the EPL they’re rapid and/or extremely skilful with a low centre of gravity and extremely difficult to get off the ball.

Zaniolo looks like a luxury, talented but not EPL compatible.

Well, he did just fine as a marauding CM in my multi quadruple winning Spurs team 2019-2029, but apparently that counts for nothing these days.
 

Spartan Spurs

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Whether Zaniolo is worth £50-£60M is debatable but gauging from the comments & amount of interest in his mum here...

...If Levy would just think outside the box, buy Zaniolo for that much, put a Spurs tie & cuff links on his mum, he'd easily double his money selling her calendars.
 

razzmaster

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She's lovely.

Then spoils it with a pout.

To be fair, her son likes a pout too so maybe it's genetic

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(His gf isn't too shabby either)
 
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