Nicolò Zaniolo

[rossco]

Personally I don’t feel at all comfortable with our CB or AM/FW situation.

If either Dier or one of KSK gets hurt then we’re relying on Lucas Moura and Davinson Sanchez as extremely key players in the side. Think the dier backup is especially pressing.

I do agree we need another AM option and even if it isn’t Zaniolo, someone to replace Lo Celso/Bergwijn needs to come in.

Are you forgetting we spent £50m on Richardson?

 

[daveduvet]

If it happens, great. If if doesn’t, so be it. We’ve done great business thus far. I’m confident that tge further incomings will add value. A great season ahead to be a spurs fan

 

[DodgyLasagne]

Are you forgetting we spent £50m on Richardson?

Not at all.

starters: Son-Kane-Kulusevski

bench: Richarlison-Moura (Gil/Gio/Tanguy going)

so look, Lucas may not start every match if one gets hurt, but Charlison is weaker on the right and isn’t really a creator.

Imagine a winter period or post-world cup situation where Kane is gone. Lucas has to play a lot of minutes in that situation, and we’d have no one else who can play wide forward. I def think another attacking option is needed, bad news if we have to rely on Lucas for large stretches of the season. And as many in this thread are aware, I’m not even a fan of Zaniolo, so I’m not just saying this bc I want him.

 

[knowlespurs]

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Dead people?

 

[barry]

If it happens, great. If if doesn’t, so be it. We’ve done great business thus far. I’m confident that tge further incomings will add value. A great season ahead to be a spurs fan

That's true, but I'll still be disappointed. From being sceptical about the player and what he would bring, I've really warmed to this transfer. I really want the kid now.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

That's true, but I'll still be disappointed. From being sceptical about the player and what he would bring, I've really warmed to this transfer. I really want the kid now.

The classic transfer journey!!!

 

[rossco]

Not at all.

starters: Son-Kane-Kulusevski

bench: Richarlison-Moura (Gil/Gio/Tanguy going)

so look, Lucas may not start every match if one gets hurt, but Charlison is weaker on the right and isn’t really a creator.

Imagine a winter period or post-world cup situation where Kane is gone. Lucas has to play a lot of minutes in that situation, and we’d have no one else who can play wide forward. I def think another attacking option is needed, bad news if we have to rely on Lucas for large stretches of the season. And as many in this thread are aware, I’m not even a fan of Zaniolo, so I’m not just saying this bc I want him.

Being at the match on Sunday reminded me again more than anything it’s that the system creates more chances than any given player.

Of course Zaniolo would be a great acquisition. I am not disputing that. Just that Richarlison & Moura are still pretty good options to have.

Take a Kane/son/Kulu out of any team & they would be missed.

I think the biggest major injury I would fear would be Romero.

 

[djhotspur]

Being at the match on Sunday reminded me again more than anything it’s that the system creates more chances than any given player.

Of course Zaniolo would be a great acquisition. I am not disputing that. Just that Richarlison & Moura are still pretty good options to have.

Take a Kane/son/Kulu out of any team & they would be missed.

I think the biggest major injury I would fear would be Romero.

If I’m honest I’d fear dier injured more. We don’t have cover for him really whereas Sanchez was fine in the run in.

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

If it happens, great. If if doesn’t, so be it. We’ve done great business thus far. I’m confident that tge further incomings will add value. A great season ahead to be a spurs fan

 

[DodgyLasagne]

Being at the match on Sunday reminded me again more than anything it’s that the system creates more chances than any given player.

Of course Zaniolo would be a great acquisition. I am not disputing that. Just that Richarlison & Moura are still pretty good options to have.

Take a Kane/son/Kulu out of any team & they would be missed.

I think the biggest major injury I would fear would be Romero.

I honestly don’t think Moura is good enough at all tbh. He’s fine against lower level sides or for a sub appearance, but he slows us down and doesn’t really change the game, doesn’t create from the middle of the pitch, and only shines in transition.

That’s for another thread but i think we are desperately crying out for a quality game changing option forward/AM.

Richarlison is a great start - he’s the finisher, presser, runner, physical option. What we still lack is the brain, the chance creator, a strong technical option.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

I honestly don’t think Moura is good enough at all tbh. He’s fine against lower level sides or for a sub appearance, but he slows us down and doesn’t really change the game, doesn’t create from the middle of the pitch, and only shines in transition.

That’s for another thread but i think we are desperately crying out for a quality game changing option forward/AM.

Richarlison is a great start - he’s the finisher, presser, runner, physical option. What we still lack is the brain, the chance creator, a strong technical option.

bit harsh on Moura he was probably our best player in the first half of last season shit shambles as it may have been - he is still a decent option when called on and never let us down

not sure Zaniolo fits the chance creator box he has never managed more than 2 assists in a season

 

[TorontoYid]

I honestly don’t think Moura is good enough at all tbh. He’s fine against lower level sides or for a sub appearance, but he slows us down and doesn’t really change the game, doesn’t create from the middle of the pitch, and only shines in transition.

That’s for another thread but i think we are desperately crying out for a quality game changing option forward/AM.

Richarlison is a great start - he’s the finisher, presser, runner, physical option. What we still lack is the brain, the chance creator, a strong technical option.

Perhaps he has room to grow under the right leadership and if not, provides us with some good depth for squad rotation.

 

[DodgyLasagne]

bit harsh on Moura he was probably our best player in the first half of last season shit shambles as it may have been - he is still a decent option when called on and never let us down

not sure Zaniolo fits the chance creator box he has never managed more than 2 assists in a season

Maybe but under Conte I’ve felt that he has typified some of our worst attacking habits and spearheaded our most toothless attacking performances.

- started in the Burnley match in May where a lucky peno bailed us out.
Other matches coming to mind…
- started the crazy Leicester comeback where we looked lost for long stretches
-started all 3 of the consecutive Wolves, Soton, Chelsea losses in February
- generally has some of the highest turnover statistics in the premier league/doesn’t help against low blocks

I’m not saying he’s a mug, he’s a good option and I oddly trust him more against big sides. But a game changing playmaker he is not, he slows us down and that is the opposite of how we should be building our team.

PS I’m glad you made the last point, I’m personally not at all convinced on Zaniolo being that option… OTOH I am in agreement with Conte and Paratici that someone in that mold needs to come in.

 

[Tucker]

Maybe but under Conte I’ve felt that he has typified some of our worst attacking habits and spearheaded our most toothless attacking performances.

- started in the Burnley match in May where a lucky peno bailed us out.
Other matches coming to mind…
- started the crazy Leicester comeback where we looked lost for long stretches
-started all 3 of the consecutive Wolves, Soton, Chelsea losses in February
- generally has some of the highest turnover statistics in the premier league/doesn’t help against low blocks

I’m not saying he’s a mug, he’s a good option and I oddly trust him more against big sides. But a game changing playmaker he is not, he slows us down and that is the opposite of how we should be building our team.

PS I’m glad you made the last point, I’m personally not at all convinced on Zaniolo being that option… OTOH I am in agreement with Conte and Paratici that someone in that mold needs to come in.

Moura was amazing in that Burnley match. He created two or three very good chances that Kane, and maybe Reguilon (I forget who was wing back that day) squandered. On another day he’d have been MOTM in that game.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

I honestly don’t think Moura is good enough at all tbh. He’s fine against lower level sides or for a sub appearance, but he slows us down and doesn’t really change the game, doesn’t create from the middle of the pitch, and only shines in transition.

That’s for another thread but i think we are desperately crying out for a quality game changing option forward/AM.

Richarlison is a great start - he’s the finisher, presser, runner, physical option. What we still lack is the brain, the chance creator, a strong technical option.

Agreed, it's also the randomness, he brings to the game, I imagine he's really difficult to play with as you don't know what he's going to do next.

I don't like him being on the same pitch as son. Unpopular opinion time... Son gives the ball away a lot and we put up with it because he is deadly and will win us games.

Lucas is nowhere near as good as son, or perhaps does what son does but nowhere near as consistently.

We basically need another kulusevski as back up for kulusevski. Hopefully zaniolo can be as effective (in his own way)

When we use to play Dele, Lucas and son on the pitch and sometimes with Sissoko behind them, it was diabolical as we never retained possession.

 

[DodgyLasagne]

Moura was amazing in that Burnley match. He created two or three very good chances that Kane, and maybe Reguilon (I forget who was wing back that day) squandered. On another day he’d have been MOTM in that game.

Actually that’s a good point, I distinctly remember the dribble and pass to Kane in the first half, it’s a chance that Kane finishes 9/10 times and he bungled it.

I’m not saying Lucas is a poor player, he’s useful and undeniably will play a part, especially in Europe where he thrives. But on the other hand he does limit us a bit on the pitch, he can’t play as the sort of wide midfielder in the 3-1-4-2 in possession, he isn’t the best passer or decision maker, doesn’t take set pieces.

He’s a good bench option but he shouldn’t be the only one. What we have is 5 players for 3 positions… it’s acceptable but I feel a 6th would complete us.

 

[mil1lion]

Not at all.

starters: Son-Kane-Kulusevski

bench: Richarlison-Moura (Gil/Gio/Tanguy going)

so look, Lucas may not start every match if one gets hurt, but Charlison is weaker on the right and isn’t really a creator.

Imagine a winter period or post-world cup situation where Kane is gone. Lucas has to play a lot of minutes in that situation, and we’d have no one else who can play wide forward. I def think another attacking option is needed, bad news if we have to rely on Lucas for large stretches of the season. And as many in this thread are aware, I’m not even a fan of Zaniolo, so I’m not just saying this bc I want him.

Perisic can also play further forward but we could certainly do with 1 more attacker

 

[Reece_Spurs]

I'm not worried. If Zaniolo doesn't happen for whatever reason I'm confident we'll have a plan b ready to go.

Also confident we will sign another CCB.

We've already done so well and have been told numerous times everythings under control.

No need to panic, I have total faith what needs to get done will get done.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Maybe but under Conte I’ve felt that he has typified some of our worst attacking habits and spearheaded our most toothless attacking performances.

- started in the Burnley match in May where a lucky peno bailed us out.
Other matches coming to mind…
- started the crazy Leicester comeback where we looked lost for long stretches
-started all 3 of the consecutive Wolves, Soton, Chelsea losses in February
- generally has some of the highest turnover statistics in the premier league/doesn’t help against low blocks

I’m not saying he’s a mug, he’s a good option and I oddly trust him more against big sides. But a game changing playmaker he is not, he slows us down and that is the opposite of how we should be building our team.

PS I’m glad you made the last point, I’m personally not at all convinced on Zaniolo being that option… OTOH I am in agreement with Conte and Paratici that someone in that mold needs to come in.

still a bit harsh I would imagine that several others would have played in all those games the Leicester game we were actually really good in that game as I recall

I think generally when he plays he offers decent energy he will lose the ball as he runs with the ball more than others in the side which does open spaces and obviously that doesn't always come off. He never ever was or will be a playmaker that's not his role but his an honest player.

Zaniolo not for me worth a punt at a fraction of what they want but I don't see it - having someone who can come in off the line makes sense I would prefer someone who moves the ball rather than a dribbler

 

[spursfast]

Nice to know spursfast but what makes you think Inter are starting to panic.

the chairman, he wants to get done this summer