PeterboroughYids
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I don't really understand why you guys think its not a problem
No To GAM£ 39 - Supporters Petition
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thfcsuperyid
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all done...no to 39
BoringOldFan
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Looks like the idea will be dead on its arse before long. Balmy's point about the oppositin is well made.
Daily Mail.
Now they've tested the waters with the most stupid suggestion this century, perhaps the PL would like to reveal their real plans?
Daily Mail.
Now they've tested the waters with the most stupid suggestion this century, perhaps the PL would like to reveal their real plans?
Looks like Scudamore really did his homework. He circulated all EPL clubs, and only three responded - all essentially negatively. He didn't sound out managers or coaches. And he certainly didn't bother asking Asia, Africa, South America et al whether they wanted Wigan coming to town.
As "King" Kevin Keegan put it: "this is a really well thought out proposal". :stupid:
KeaneIsKeane
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As someone voiced earlier. I don't care if the 39th games are all played in Wembley Stadium. Its not the fact that they're being played overseas thats annoying me, probably because I'm from the States, but the fact that there will be a 39th league game period it what is pissing me off.
SpurSince57
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And one which will probably put paid to any chance we have of hosting the 2018 World Cup.
because they dont live in the UK ? :grin:
SpurSince57
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The Yanks are saying they'll go along with whatever ruling FIFA makes.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7239788.stm
Seems like we're running short of venues.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7239788.stm
Seems like we're running short of venues.
C0YS
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Very short, I might add. Apparently the USA is the only venue willing to hold us. And with their massive 30,000 setters, its bound to attract all 20 of the clubs to go to the USA.
But anyways FIFA will not allow it! Or will they just laugh at us, like all the other leagues of the world would!!:shrug:
SpurSince57
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I'm not entirely sure that FIFA can do anything but express its displeasure should we make an agreement with a foreign association—at least, as far as stopping it happening is concerned. They can, however, make life difficult in all sorts of ways—like strangling our 2018 WC bid at birth, which should sober up the blazers at the FA.
It seems pretty clear that someone has shot his mouth off to the media before any contact was made with overseas associations (or with EPL clubs). If I were running football in Japan or wherever I'd find that an insufferable presumption, and my reaction would be 'Just who the fuck do you think you are?'
A total disaster on every level.
It seems pretty clear that someone has shot his mouth off to the media before any contact was made with overseas associations (or with EPL clubs). If I were running football in Japan or wherever I'd find that an insufferable presumption, and my reaction would be 'Just who the fuck do you think you are?'
A total disaster on every level.
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Guys, as i'm lazy, can someone answer a couple of questions for me, if the answers are there yet?
1) Will this extra game have any bearing on the outcome of the league, or will it be an entirely seperate "showcase" game, worth no points. If it's of no consquence, who really gives a f*ck? :shrug:
2) Will it allow any other way into European competition, seeing as i bought 2lb of carrots the other day and was told if i bought 4lb then i'd go into a draw for the UEFA cup qualifiers or something.
3) Maaaaybe, if the EPL can cream enough extra notes from the foreign fanbase then there's always that immeasureably slim chance the savings might knock on down the line to provide clubs with more money and allow them to reduce a few ticket prices?
what am i talking about, that's never going to happen :lol:
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1) Will this extra game have any bearing on the outcome of the league, or will it be an entirely seperate "showcase" game, worth no points. If it's of no consquence, who really gives a f*ck? :shrug:
2) Will it allow any other way into European competition, seeing as i bought 2lb of carrots the other day and was told if i bought 4lb then i'd go into a draw for the UEFA cup qualifiers or something.
3) Maaaaybe, if the EPL can cream enough extra notes from the foreign fanbase then there's always that immeasureably slim chance the savings might knock on down the line to provide clubs with more money and allow them to reduce a few ticket prices?
what am i talking about, that's never going to happen :lol:
bastards
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1) Yes
2) No
3) Are you crazy?
2) No
3) Are you crazy?
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A few important problems here (some already raised)
1) Someone will play man utd 3 times and others will get Derby 3 times.
2) Already busy schedule extended!
3) Who in their right mind will bid to see Boro vs Derby etc?
4) Top teams to be seeded to ensure they dont face each other. How is this fair?
5) Unfair on UK fans (dont really support this arguement but hey)
6) Carbon footprint all the travel.
7) Players will need to be there for at least a week to get over jet lag and will effect them on their return as well.
8) Safety fears? Some stadia are just not up to the job.
Im sure theres more but cant really be bothered the idea is just staggering in its stupidity. Especially as it appears the countries they considered to be interested are at best wary of such plans.
1) Someone will play man utd 3 times and others will get Derby 3 times.
2) Already busy schedule extended!
3) Who in their right mind will bid to see Boro vs Derby etc?
4) Top teams to be seeded to ensure they dont face each other. How is this fair?
5) Unfair on UK fans (dont really support this arguement but hey)
6) Carbon footprint all the travel.
7) Players will need to be there for at least a week to get over jet lag and will effect them on their return as well.
8) Safety fears? Some stadia are just not up to the job.
Im sure theres more but cant really be bothered the idea is just staggering in its stupidity. Especially as it appears the countries they considered to be interested are at best wary of such plans.
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OK, what about (Just occurred to me as I was upset as F365 didn't print my mail abusing the Gooner berk who wrote in yesterday, even though they printed one from that tosser BigRed yesterday :roll: ):
i) We drop a team (or 2?) from the Premier League (Watford last year and Derby this have hardly played well or improved standards have they?).
ii) We introduce a winter break. For the weeks between the FA Cup 3rd and 4th rounds. This should also allow clubs to focus on the transfer window and not bugger up teams with African players every other year. With only 36 or 34 games this won't be a problem.
iii) The week before this winter break recommences, one random match is played against a side drawn out of a hat in a destination to be confirmed. In following years you can not draw the same team as you have played in the past 3 seasons.
iv) On the bill over this weekend are matches from each of the 3 lower football leagues. Costs will be paid by the Premier League from the monies they would earn. Sod it, they could even give all their earnings to the clubs who share their venues/destinations (if they want to market themselves to an overseas audience so much, then its a very small price to pay). The other clubs could market and merchandise to their hearts content and reach audiences far beyond their normal reach. From a fans pov, if you want to see Liverpool Vs West Ham, you also have to buy a ticket to Lincoln Vs Brighton. For lower league sides, this increased exposure and huge investment would more than outweigh the inconvenience.
v) All clubs are expected to spend at least 4 days in each destination running coaching classes, visiting local charities and being generally good ambassadors for their club and the sport.
vi) Every current season ticket holder is given 100 pounds sterling. In cash. And/Or a blow-job. Which will shut them up complaining about something that really doesn't affect them. Even if only for a minute.
[I put that last one in so you could all hate me even more. :grin: ]
i) We drop a team (or 2?) from the Premier League (Watford last year and Derby this have hardly played well or improved standards have they?).
ii) We introduce a winter break. For the weeks between the FA Cup 3rd and 4th rounds. This should also allow clubs to focus on the transfer window and not bugger up teams with African players every other year. With only 36 or 34 games this won't be a problem.
iii) The week before this winter break recommences, one random match is played against a side drawn out of a hat in a destination to be confirmed. In following years you can not draw the same team as you have played in the past 3 seasons.
iv) On the bill over this weekend are matches from each of the 3 lower football leagues. Costs will be paid by the Premier League from the monies they would earn. Sod it, they could even give all their earnings to the clubs who share their venues/destinations (if they want to market themselves to an overseas audience so much, then its a very small price to pay). The other clubs could market and merchandise to their hearts content and reach audiences far beyond their normal reach. From a fans pov, if you want to see Liverpool Vs West Ham, you also have to buy a ticket to Lincoln Vs Brighton. For lower league sides, this increased exposure and huge investment would more than outweigh the inconvenience.
v) All clubs are expected to spend at least 4 days in each destination running coaching classes, visiting local charities and being generally good ambassadors for their club and the sport.
vi) Every current season ticket holder is given 100 pounds sterling. In cash. And/Or a blow-job. Which will shut them up complaining about something that really doesn't affect them. Even if only for a minute.
[I put that last one in so you could all hate me even more. :grin: ]
Barmy_in_Palmy
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But even if they do play in Australia, it'll be in Sydney, so you still won't be able to go, plus the way the games will be randomly selected, only a teams with australians in it will play in Sydney. So Spurs (The Spurs? :wink won't be coming to Australia anytime soon.
I sure wouldn't mind being a season ticket holder though if they used your plan, could use 100 pounds.
won't be coming to Australia anytime soon.I sure wouldn't mind being a season ticket holder though if they used your plan, could use 100 pounds.
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1) F*ck no! That's insane.
2) Kind of thought not, so fair enough - seems UEFA are obsessed with cheapening the waffa cup, wouldn't have put it past them
3) yes. yes i am.
Lets face it, the head coffin-dodgers at the FA and, it now appears, representatives of the top four clubs have met and discussed this already - first thing that jumps to mind is how much that signals the FA's intentions and concerns to the rest of the premier league teams - and decided that they want to be like the NSL (National Stupidball League) and play a couple of games abroad.
The main differences between Stupidball and Football is that Stupidball is played amongst teams that are so far apart the players virtually live on the road, for weeks on end. It's also the reason they have clustered "play-off" style games for baseball and "conferences" split into compass points - when any team goes to play away in the US, the chances of their fans going is very, very slim.
Because of this detachment, and because it's a rare event, they can expect to draw at least one stadium full if they send two teams abroad.
In the UK some teams are so close you could throw stuff at each other from the rooves of their stadiums. People travel home and away, you find Man U supporters in London, Woolwich fans in Birmingham - Football is no longer split into regions, local players are rare and home or away, you're looking at a maximum of a few hours on a train or plane.
What bothers me the most though is the complete lack of consideration for us fans , and for the clubs that are outside the top four - they've barely even been told how it will work, let alone asked if they want it introduced.
If this happens, Chelsea will likely end up playing Reading in a 120,000 seater stadium and only 10 people will show up. Man U will draw Citeh and it'll sell out.
To make it as "fair" as possible would make it too much of a financial risk - to justify it they would have to have some real high-profile sponsors prepared to chuck in insane amounts of money for something that might be only slightly more successful than NASL :shrug:
If they wanted to create a tie that would draw, between the states and the UK, then why not just anounce a bi-annual Anglo/American cup, alternating the hosts each time it comes around?
2) Kind of thought not, so fair enough - seems UEFA are obsessed with cheapening the waffa cup, wouldn't have put it past them
3) yes. yes i am.
Lets face it, the head coffin-dodgers at the FA and, it now appears, representatives of the top four clubs have met and discussed this already - first thing that jumps to mind is how much that signals the FA's intentions and concerns to the rest of the premier league teams - and decided that they want to be like the NSL (National Stupidball League) and play a couple of games abroad.
The main differences between Stupidball and Football is that Stupidball is played amongst teams that are so far apart the players virtually live on the road, for weeks on end. It's also the reason they have clustered "play-off" style games for baseball and "conferences" split into compass points - when any team goes to play away in the US, the chances of their fans going is very, very slim.
Because of this detachment, and because it's a rare event, they can expect to draw at least one stadium full if they send two teams abroad.
In the UK some teams are so close you could throw stuff at each other from the rooves of their stadiums. People travel home and away, you find Man U supporters in London, Woolwich fans in Birmingham - Football is no longer split into regions, local players are rare and home or away, you're looking at a maximum of a few hours on a train or plane.
What bothers me the most though is the complete lack of consideration for us fans , and for the clubs that are outside the top four - they've barely even been told how it will work, let alone asked if they want it introduced.
If this happens, Chelsea will likely end up playing Reading in a 120,000 seater stadium and only 10 people will show up. Man U will draw Citeh and it'll sell out.
To make it as "fair" as possible would make it too much of a financial risk - to justify it they would have to have some real high-profile sponsors prepared to chuck in insane amounts of money for something that might be only slightly more successful than NASL :shrug:
If they wanted to create a tie that would draw, between the states and the UK, then why not just anounce a bi-annual Anglo/American cup, alternating the hosts each time it comes around?
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