Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez

[Shadydan]

And in his body

If that's what you're into...each to their own I guess.

 

[wrd]

I'm hoping rather than Jose writing off Sanchez altogether they're just taking him out the team for a bit and want to redevelop him with Ledleys help. Possibly more wishful thinking than anything but I hope there's a player in there somewhere, he just has some flaws in his game which could and should be ironed out.

 

[Japhet]

I can see us letting him go if there's a deal where we could get Skriniar in as replacement. Probably nothing in the Liverpool rumours but they're bound to be snouting around.

 

[gregga]

How much do we think he'd sell for?

Surely nowhere near the £42m we paid for him.

 

[Japhet]

How much do we think he'd sell for?

Surely nowhere near the £42m we paid for him.

Won't get £42m but that's irrelevant if we buy another player at a similarly depressed price. I'd be more than happy to keep him but it depends what Mourinho wants.

 

[rio bryan]

I'm hoping rather than Jose writing off Sanchez altogether they're just taking him out the team for a bit and want to redevelop him with Ledleys help. Possibly more wishful thinking than anything but I hope there's a player in there somewhere, he just has some flaws in his game which could and should be ironed out.

He's a coach not the farkin messiah

 

[Johnny J]

And in his body

Steady on now

 

[cookiemonster]

I can see us letting him go if there's a deal where we could get Skriniar in as replacement. Probably nothing in the Liverpool rumours but they're bound to be snouting around.

Liverpool are not stupid

 

[Rout-Ledge]

How much do we think he'd sell for?

Surely nowhere near the £42m we paid for him.

The £42m figure was surely agreed in the expectation that as a very young centre back he had potential yet to be unlocked and would develop into a better player. 3 years on and he has unfortunately regressed into a worse player than the one we bought in 2017. I would be shocked if anyone was willing to pay even £25m for him now.

CB is far from our strongest position and he is currently 4th choice. So why would anyone pay serious money for him?

I hope his purchase is a lesson learned. Pay big money for a player that is already at the standard you need them to be at. If you are buying potential then pay a reasonable sum (see Rodon, Dier, Alli etc.). CB in particular is a strange position to spend a lot of money on a player who isn’t yet good enough. Either pay big money for someone who is already there or buy potential for a reasonable price.

 

[double0]

I honestly feel his been unfairly judged. What's been very obvious though with Sanchez is on the ball he has bad moments in game generally early on that stands out but once settled his perfectly fine.

I still believe when partnered correctly his a very good defender.

 

[rossdapep]

He's definitely regressed or stagnated, shall we say.

I recall in his first season he was very impressive, he was recovering well and was generally well positioned defensively. It could be that he just prefers a high line. He did have moments in which he looked a little unstable, however they seemed to come against big CFs such as Rondon. However, I remember once Rondon did him for that goal at Wembley he recovered very well and was beating him to the ball. The general consensus was that once he improved that he would be a solid CB at such a young age.

I feel that his second season had a bit of an effect on him. Toby returned from injury and he started to be in and out of the first 11, which I think prevented him from ironing out some of these mistakes and it probably hurt his confidence. The team's regression in that period also would have had a major effect on him and any progress he was making would have been severely hampered by that.

Hard to know whether he can get back on track but I now think we are in a situation in which both Rodon and Tanganga are thrones waiting in the wings for the big moment.

 

[Rosco1984]

Do we have a sports psychologist? we must do the issue stopping him being a great defender is composure and that's a psychological thing he's probably resembling peak Bobby Moore in training but when he gets on the pitch in a match pressure clearly gets to him that should be the job of a psychologist rather than a coach to fix. I hope we can because he has massive potential but the more he was playing the more panicked he was looking. Against Antwerp he really looked lost.

 

[Alex4487]

not reliable enough for me needs to be sold asap hes the new david luiz he looks great in some games and then does stupid things in others. his consistency is toilet im afraid sell him to the highest bidder and rodon is the future

 

[Shadydan]

The £42m figure was surely agreed in the expectation that as a very young centre back he had potential yet to be unlocked and would develop into a better player. 3 years on and he has unfortunately regressed into a worse player than the one we bought in 2017. I would be shocked if anyone was willing to pay even £25m for him now.

CB is far from our strongest position and he is currently 4th choice. So why would anyone pay serious money for him?

I hope his purchase is a lesson learned. Pay big money for a player that is already at the standard you need them to be at. If you are buying potential then pay a reasonable sum (see Rodon, Dier, Alli etc.). CB in particular is a strange position to spend a lot of money on a player who isn’t yet good enough. Either pay big money for someone who is already there or buy potential for a reasonable price.

I don't think you can take that as a lesson in the case of Stones and Laporte, those two being extreme examples both cost a lot of money, one bombed and one succeeded you win some you lose some I guess.

I don't think we should write him off yet personally regardless, football is a funny game and sometimes all it needs for a footballer is that one match or run of matches where it all comes together, look at Kurt Zouma for example - he's looking much better in the last few matches - football is strange like that.

 

[DiVaio]

The £42m figure was surely agreed in the expectation that as a very young centre back he had potential yet to be unlocked and would develop into a better player. 3 years on and he has unfortunately regressed into a worse player than the one we bought in 2017. I would be shocked if anyone was willing to pay even £25m for him now.

CB is far from our strongest position and he is currently 4th choice. So why would anyone pay serious money for him?

He isn't currently our 4th choice. He' 3rd at least.

In last 2 years, there was a loads of centre back who went for more than 25m who aren't better/more experienced/has more potential than him.

 

[Japhet]

He's definitely regressed or stagnated, shall we say.

I recall in his first season he was very impressive, he was recovering well and was generally well positioned defensively. It could be that he just prefers a high line. He did have moments in which he looked a little unstable, however they seemed to come against big CFs such as Rondon. However, I remember once Rondon did him for that goal at Wembley he recovered very well and was beating him to the ball. The general consensus was that once he improved that he would be a solid CB at such a young age.

I feel that his second season had a bit of an effect on him. Toby returned from injury and he started to be in and out of the first 11, which I think prevented him from ironing out some of these mistakes and it probably hurt his confidence. The team's regression in that period also would have had a major effect on him and any progress he was making would have been severely hampered by that.

Hard to know whether he can get back on track but I now think we are in a situation in which both Rodon and Tanganga are thrones waiting in the wings for the big moment.

When I played (can just about remember!), I played at CB. I hated being pinned back in your own half with no respite and the pressure would ramp up as the game went on. This is how Mourinho likes to play (in essence). With a high line you always have a bit of time to deal with what unfolds but playing in a low block would make me want to just get rid of the fucking ball, much like Sanchez. I think it's pretty obvious he was more confident in Poch's system than Mourinho's, and could count on his pace to deal with most situations.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I don't think you can take that as a lesson in the case of Stones and Laporte, those two being extreme examples both cost a lot of money, one bombed and one succeeded you win some you lose some I guess.

I don't think we should write him off yet personally regardless, football is a funny game and sometimes all it needs for a footballer is that one match or run of matches where it all comes together, look at Kurt Zouma for example - he's looking much better in the last few matches - football is strange like that.

For a club like City it makes a lot more sense to take the gamble. For us, Sanchez was the only big money signing we made in a two (maybe even three?) year period. He might have even been our all time most expensive player when we bought him? Seems an odd choice when viewed from that perspective.

I definitely won’t write off Sanchez but equally we can’t afford to keep playing him for years in the hope that he improves. A loan might be the best bet, if we can afford to bring in players without selling him.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

He isn't currently our 4th choice. He' 3rd at least.

In last 2 years, there was a loads of centre back who went for more than 25m who aren't better/more experienced/has more potential than him.

Jose seems understandably more interested in Rodon than Sanchez, which puts Sanchez behind him, Dier and Toby.

Which CBs who weren’t first choice for their clubs have sold for over 25m? There can’t be many. I don’t think his potential is particularly obvious anymore. If it was, we’d be very keen to keep him.

 

[Shadydan]

For a club like City it makes a lot more sense to take the gamble. For us, Sanchez was the only big money signing we made in a two (maybe even three?) year period. He might have even been our all time most expensive player when we bought him? Seems an odd choice when viewed from that perspective.

I definitely won’t write off Sanchez but equally we can’t afford to keep playing him for years in the hope that he improves. A loan might be the best bet, if we can afford to bring in players without selling him.

I can see why we gambled though and his first season he was fulfilling his potential and it looked like he pulled off a coup so I wouldn't put this one on the club, no one would have foreseen an excellent first season followed by 2 years of stagnation , I just think a lot of these feelings are a bit hindsight(ish) due to his recent form.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I can see why we gambled though and his first season he was fulfilling his potential and it looked like he pulled off a coup so I wouldn't put this one on the club, no one would have foreseen an excellent first season followed by 2 years of stagnation , I just think a lot of these feelings are a bit hindsight(ish) due to his recent form.

I didn’t think it was a mistake at the time either. Hindsight is definitely engaged. But for me the lesson learned from his purchase is that for a club with limited funds, spending £40m plus on young centre backs with potential is perhaps not the best use of funds.