Player Watch Player Watch: Destiny Udogie

[Col_M]

Hope he kicks Kane in the willy.

Maguire will do that.

 

[Russ1201]

Maguire will do that.

He probably miss and kick the referee in the balls instead

 

[HildoSpur]

He has been superb so far

 

[oobaties]

I’m 45 (or 46) can’t remember, and I’ve always used beast mode or to go full beast as a term to describe a powerful burst of strength. In my (normal) world, it originated for me while playing Altered Beast in 1998 on the Mega Drive, where the character transformed into werewolf for increased fighting power.

It has since been used to describe powerful athletes (of all races) who are big, strong, athletic, that can do things that others can’t.

Some examples of athletes I’d describe as a beast include Shane Lowry, Conor McGregor, Sebastian Shabal, Kyrios, Richie McGaw, Romero, Ronaldo, Eben Etzebeth, Mike Tyson, Michael Jordan, Nadal, Lomu.

All big in size/stature. Top of their game, physically stronger than other and can do something a bit special to win.

Nothing more in it than that.

 

[Col_M]

Watching Eng playing it at the back makes me as nervous as. Spurs fan from last season.

great goal by Rashford there. Looked like Udogie was rooted.

 

[Tucker]

Need to get him on a longer contract. He’s going to have a lot of admirers soon.

 

[npearl4spurs]

At fault for any of the goals conceded?

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

At fault for any of the goals conceded?

Every last damn one of them

 

[easley91]

Solid full Italy debut overall and got 30 minutes rest as well.

 

[kmk]

 

[PCozzie]

WTF is he saying here? He's a great player, all he needs to work on is his defending, midfield play, and attack?

They're a special breed.

 

[Dr Know]

I don’t think Kane would have got past him for that goal

 

[theShiznit]

Just loving our entire defence right now.

Him and Mickey together is different class.

But throw in Romero and a reinvigorated Porro and

All have such complimentary strengths. with composure being the common theme.

 

[rabbikeane]

Lloris; Walker, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Rose felt like perfection.
Getting similar vibe from Vicario; Porro, Romero, van de Ven, Udogie.

 

[Kirito]

In the sporting sense, someone quoting ‘beast’ always led me to believe it was someone doing something very impressive in the moment or over a period of time (i.e. Son scoring a hat trick at Burnley was ‘beast’ mode for that game, or Ronaldo scoring 60 goals in the 11/12 season at Real Madrid was ‘beast’ mode over the longer period)!

This is how 99.9% of people use the word. Tbh I’ve never heard anyone described as a “beast” in a racist way. I don’t think beast should be cancelled.

 

[mil1lion]

Once again, I'd like to respectfully ask you to consider who you are choosing to have empathy for in this conversation: a group of people for whom coded language represents a wider pattern of discrimination and prejudice they experience in society, or someone who got mildly scolded on a message board. Because that's really all that happened in the latter case. No one got "cancelled", no one got fired from their job or shunned by the wider community. They were just told to be mindful of what words they were using- to treat this like it's some sort of punishment is baffling to me.

You mean the word used to praise a fellow player (not even yourself) that got turned into something to do with race for no reason

 

[mil1lion]

Ok yeah I believe obviously it is meant as a compliment. The study was actually about how significant the frequency of descriptive between white and black players were used. Black players reduced to physicality and white players praised for intelligence and work rate. And how black players are prejudged and discussed because of this. One example they have was Lewandovski Vs Senegals defence. The tv pundits were saying that Lewandovski skill and intelligence would outsmart the Senegalese defence, but that the Senegalese had pace and power in their side. When the truth of the matter was that Lewandovski was bigger and faster than those players and beat them on physicality.
I also remember Souness talking about Ndombele, obviously having not done his homework saying that he would bring pace and power to the spurs midfield when coming but but lacking some technical finesse. Again souness has prejudged him, when we all know Tanguys weakness was athleticism.
it sort of stops you appreciating players for what they were rather than what people think they should be. Toure was one of the finest ball playing and goal scoring midfielders in the game, but again reduced to his physical traits.
Even myself at times I’ve experienced it when being selected for football, asked to play on the wing or on top when I’m really more the bastard love child of Atouba and Michael Brow.

Yeah I agree especially with Udogie who is physical but also clever and technical. I think its just lazy from pundits who see a physical looking person and assume that's what their game is about because they don't have the knowledge.

 

[MichaelPawson]

You mean the word used to praise a fellow player (not even yourself) that got turned into something to do with race for no reason

We’ll remember him fondly forever.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Lloris; Walker, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Rose felt like perfection.
Getting similar vibe from Vicario; Porto, Romero, van de Ven, Udogie.

Agree mate.

That back 5 we had under Poch was phenomenal to be fair but the 5 we have now have some serious potential.

Vicario better with his feet than Hugo,
Porro better with the ball than Walker although not as good physcially (no RB in world football is lol its why Pep signed him)
Romero & VDV faster than Toby & Jan but Toby & Jan at that time were better defenders and read the game so so well and calmly but Romero is a world cup winner and VDV reads the game incredibly well for his age
Udogie looks like he could match or one day be better than peak Rose

Exciting times with that back 5 which if we can keep fit and tie down to long deals would then serve us as a great foundation for the next few years.

If I'm honest I'd take the Poch back 5 over the current back 5 but I think the current back 5 aren't far off and they're also all pretty young so have so much potential.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Interesting that this is taken in a negative way. Like you can compliment a player on their physicality but rather than take the compliment you would question whether that means they're not also intelligent or skillful etc. That would be like someone calling you funny but assuming they must think you're ugly and stupid then. It's ok for people not to like the phrase but talking like people have to feel the same way is silly. Nobody is burying their heads in the sand over it just because they're not seeing the term in a negative light. It's down to the person whether to read something in a positive or negative way. I would think it was obvious the poster said it as a positive compliment. It's like the word Yid, some will never like it but I'm sure they know the intent behind it so they're not going to tell people not to use it. We're all a community on here but we don't have to all agree to what is right or wrong to say. The fact that the poster was criticized for it was unnecessary. I've seen phrases like ignorance as well as the idea of burying heads in the sand like it's conclusive that the word is wrong and we should all accept it. Some don't like it which is fair enough but there's no need to try and make people feel guilty when they don't feel the same way.

Nice post.