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Player Watch: Emerson Royal

Thenewcat

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He was excellent against Fulham. Not our biggest game of the season.
Fucking hell, this is hard work. My point was and is that overall he plays better in big games because he is better when we are defending or countering f quickly and less good when we have to break teams down. Pointing out a game where he played well against a supposedly lesser side doesn’t disprove that.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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"That useless **** Royale plays like Beckenbaur against us"

Emerson is no longer #12 to me. He is a Royal, and today, he made Jacky Grealish and Haaland dance for his amusement. What a performance, that's exactly what we needed this entire time from him. I'm so tired of players sulking when competition is brought in, it should motivate you to RAISE your game, not slink away to the shadows. Porro is clearly the better player and will be the starter, but Royal has a part to play in our Top 4 charge without doubt.

I like the RCB shouts by the way but doubt it happens this season.
Agree with all that and doubt he’ll get played RCB, it’ll be Sanchez for the game Romero is out but it’s certainly worth a try at some point
 

mano-obe

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spurmin

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Fucking hell, this is hard work. My point was and is that overall he plays better in big games because he is better when we are defending or countering f quickly and less good when we have to break teams down. Pointing out a game where he played well against a supposedly lesser side doesn’t disprove that.
He’s played well in loads of games. It’s the blinkers on and follow the majority views which are annoying.
He was the scapegoat. And now it will be someone else who happens to give the ball away more than once.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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He’s played well in loads of games. It’s the blinkers on and follow the majority views which are annoying.
He was the scapegoat. And now it will be someone else who happens to give the ball away more than once.

This is it for me. Yes he was great yesterday, but he's had good performances in a lot of matches. But because he's the scapegoat fans just focus on his what he can't do rather than what he can.

He's always been pretty solid and diligent defensively. But if we got a 1-1 draw yesterday, conceding a goal that he wasn't culpable for, I guarantee the blinkered, kneejerking fans would be shitting all over his performance.
 

$hoguN

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I think people need to calm down after an excellent performance. Reality is that this wasn’t what we usually see from him. Until he can do it regularly then he will remain a player who poses us problems. A handful of good performances doesn’t mean he will suddenly start doing it regularly.
 

mdharris

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I think people need to calm down after an excellent performance. Reality is that this wasn’t what we usually see from him. Until he can do it regularly then he will remain a player who poses us problems. A handful of good performances doesn’t mean he will suddenly start doing it regularly.
Agreed. He’s usually better in games where we set out more defensively. In games where we are on the front foot, his limitations become more obvious. But glad he’s still with us as he can offer something defensively.
 

BorjeSpurs

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This is it for me. Yes he was great yesterday, but he's had good performances in a lot of matches. But because he's the scapegoat fans just focus on his what he can't do rather than what he can.

He's always been pretty solid and diligent defensively. But if we got a 1-1 draw yesterday, conceding a goal that he wasn't culpable for, I guarantee the blinkered, kneejerking fans would be shitting all over his performance.

The fact that Emerson got voted MOTM by our fans when we drew 1-1 at Anfield last season suggest differently.

Often the exaggerated positive and negative views fight against each other when the majority view is somewhere in the middle.

That view is that Emerson has been a fairly underwhelming signing for the money spent, but is a lovely character who hasn’t deserved being booed my the home support and we are all very happy about his performance yesterday.

 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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The fact that Emerson got voted MOTM by our fans when we drew 1-1 at Anfield last season suggest differently.

Often the exaggerated positive and negative views fight against each other when the majority view is somewhere in the middle.

That view is that Emerson has been a fairly underwhelming signing for the money spent, but is a lovely character who hasn’t deserved being booed my the home support and we are all very happy about his performance yesterday.



You have a point but the levels of toxicity have reached new levels this season. Royal wasn't getting booed and jeered by our own 'supporters' last season, while in the midst of a top 4 title charge. The general mood of the fanbase, and subsequently the treatment of Royal is very different this season.
 

Thenewcat

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He’s played well in loads of games. It’s the blinkers on and follow the majority views which are annoying.
He was the scapegoat. And now it will be someone else who happens to give the ball away more than once.
I give up.

He’s never been a scapegoat for me - I’ve always been a relative defender of his. However if you’re now claiming he’s absolutely what we have always needed in all situations as a RWB I don’t even know what to say. Blindly defending someone against all logic is just as dumb as relentlessly criticising someone and never seeing their good points.
 

N'Obody

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Finally my guy is getting the love he deserves. Been backing him since day one. Its a shame as fans aren't patient these days to wait for someone to come good.

He has always had elite mentality and never hides either when the going gets tough.

Absolutely love his passion and desire to succeed and keep going. He has that never give up attitude which is infectious, almost like the underdog who keeps getting knocked down. Only to keep getting back up and going for more. Even when everyone is against him.. He still keeps coming back.

We need more like him in terms of mentality. It's this mentality which spurs players of previous years have lacked. This is what a winners mentality is. May he keep getting better and better and prove everyone else wrong.
 

Albertbarich

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This is it for me. Yes he was great yesterday, but he's had good performances in a lot of matches. But because he's the scapegoat fans just focus on his what he can't do rather than what he can.

He's always been pretty solid and diligent defensively. But if we got a 1-1 draw yesterday, conceding a goal that he wasn't culpable for, I guarantee the blinkered, kneejerking fans would be shitting all over his performance.
He is clearly a good right back.

The issue has been he isn't great going forward and in our rigid system teams allow him to be the spare man and it exposes his weakness.

Him and Porro will compliment eachother perfectly as they can both excel in different types of games.
 

jolsnogross

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He's been terrible and good in different games. It's not rocket science and nobody needs to get entrenched in a view of him. Or at least everyone should allow his performances to change a poor opinion of him if he is clearly doing well/better. I've had an opinion that he's a very poor player and his recent three games are helping me revise that.

As I see it, his better recent displays were based on better decision-making, especially in possession. He doesn't have to offload the ball so quickly all the time, as he was doing earlier this season to terrible effect. He's got good strength to hold off opponents and just retaining possession, especially on the run, forces his opponent into a decision to tackle or not. Those extra few seconds on the ball made a big difference against City.

I think suggestions that he can play RCB are wide of the mark. He predominantly handles one angle of attack against him and is showing he can counter that effectively while offering his own ball-carrying productivity down that side. If he moves in a notch, he'd have much more varied angles of attack against him, he'd lose that marauding role, he'd need much more positional discipline, and he'd require a very calm range of passing under pressure.

Becoming a good RWB is enough of a challenge and reward. He's responded well so far to the challenge Porro represents to his starting berth.
 

Pochemon94

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Saw a burst of pace from him that he's not shown before. He was unrecognisable.
he's also playing for his life right now. A 45 mil player just came in for his position, it's do or die right now for him and he played well. He will have to continue to play that well to not get benched but for once we might actually have depth at a key position
 

TommyGee

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I give up.

He’s never been a scapegoat for me - I’ve always been a relative defender of his. However if you’re now claiming he’s absolutely what we have always needed in all situations as a RWB I don’t even know what to say. Blindly defending someone against all logic is just as dumb as relentlessly criticising someone and never seeing their good points.

Where in any of what he said have you plucked that from?
 

Thenewcat

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Where in any of what he said have you plucked that from?
The original OP was that many of Emerson’s best performances were in big games. I said that’s not surprising given his skill set, since he’s a better defender than attacker, which I thought was a pretty uncontroversial point.

Spurmin then said - ‘he played well against Fulham, and that’s not a big game’ to which I patiently responded that a single game doesn’t make the wider less valid, and in response I got told ‘he’s played well in lots of games’ and accused of scapegoating. So yes, it seems that any discussion of the guy (who I have always really liked by the way) having relative strengths and weaknesses is scapegoating, hence my comment.
 
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