Player Watch Player Watch: Manor Solomon

[Flobadob]

It’s not just about Solomon tho. What would you do with Gil, a player who we spent a good amount on and one that is finally developing now that he’s playing regularly? Now I know both can play on the right but both are most comfortable on the left. We will need to get a player who naturally plays on the right regardless.

Also what if we get a manager who likes his wing forwards to create like Conte did. Solomon whilst being good one Vs one and as a finisher doesn’t have great vision and his chance creation really isn’t a strong suit which is also why one wouldn’t particularly want to play him as an AM.

Thing is, I’d be 100% behind getting him if I felt he was part of an overall plan. He looks a promising player who excels in certain areas, is only 23 and he’s on a free, I get it. But I also don’t think we should be stockpiling players and if we got him we would have 3 (Son, Gil and Solomon) who all play best on the left and also Richy who also can play there. Now if we sold Gil or Son then it would make much more sense but I think that would be a really silly move without a manager to work with them first.

Perhaps we’re looking to sell Gil, it wouldn’t be a huge surprise to me tbh, he hasn’t really done enough either here or on loan to suggest he’s going to make the grade. Solomon is what, a year older and a far better player IMO. He’s got a burst of pace and ability to ride challenges that Gil just doesn’t have on top of the dribbling ability.

Also, it’s been said that we’re already lining up deals that will or will not be signed off on by the manager when he’s appointed.. based on that I see zero downside to this tbh. Will come cheaper as his out of contract, even with higher wages/signing fee, better player than Gil and offers a skill set we massively lack. Taking everything into account I can’t see the down side that people are seemingly creating out of thin air

 

[Ghost Hardware]

The problem is, Gil very much plays as a wide winger on the left, which basically doesn’t fit with almost any playing style now unless we get a manager who plays a 442 old school system.

Nearly every manager now wants wide players inverted and capable of scoring goals and attacking the box, which simply doesn’t fit with playing Gil on the left.

I like Bryan but he’s either got to adapt to playing from the right (and add goal threat/seeking the goal more) or he’s got to move to a club who play with old school wide wingers.

Richarlison doesn’t have the technical ability or speed to play as a wing forward either imo.

So we’re actually desperately in need of a player who can play from the left and who is a good dribbler and can cut in to score goals.

But that’s the thing, we don’t know what manager we will have. For example look at Nagelsmann. When playing 4231 he often likes one WF to stay out wide and hug the line to keep the attacking width as the FB slots into make a 3 man back line whilst on the other side the FB pushes up to overlap the WF who tucks in resulting in a 5 man front line.

Also what’s common with managers we have been looking at who play an 4 at the back, instead of holding one FB back to make a 3 man defensive line a FB will tuck into midfield instead but up top of the pitch will have a similar set up as the one i just mentioned.

In ether set up Gil would be perfect on the left. It’s actually becoming more common these days in attacking formations for one winger to sit wide to counterbalance an inverted FB slotting into midfield. Further more to back that up Udogie has actually had experience playing in midfield so if it was one of Porro or him that would be asked to move into CM it would make more sense for it to be Udogie.

What’s more is if you watch Savilla this season even tho Gil sits wide he will often drift more central so the idea that he’s only comfortable hugging the line isn’t quite true.

With all that in mind you could make just as much argument to say Gil is the player we need on the left.

The fact is we have zero clue as to who we will have in charge or what formation they will want to play and until we do we can’t really say another LW is something we desperately need considering we have 3 players comfortable in that role. If anything RW is were we are massively short. Furthermore who’s to say who we bring in won’t adapt his formation to the strengths of the players rather then forcing players into positions they aren’t comfortable in.

The only role we desperately need in attack is a playmaker, because we don’t have one. Beyond that, who knows. We might end up with a manager who likes 4312 in which case WF’s will be pretty useless. It’s all guesswork at the moment.

As I said, if he’s part of an overall plan I’d be 100% behind getting him. He has potential for sure. But considering we have no DoF or manager I struggle to see that being the case. Also if we brought him in at the expense of Gil I would be pretty disappointed.

 

[Cochise]

I'm with the naysayers on this one. I don't think he looks all that decent and without knowing our next coach, how can we go buying players that they may not fit into their tactical plan. It stinks of Levy doing what he wants and expecting his coaches to dance around to his tune.

 

[arunspurs]

I haven't watched much of him but if he's that good how can he only get 1 start for Fulham in their last 9 games?

Screams nothing but cheap and opportunistic. What would he offer that Richarlison & Gil can't?

Solomon has had 4 PL starts & 4 PL goals. That’s pretty good going . Silva explained clearly it’s a judgement call for him to start Willian over him.
But it isn’t how good or bad player is.,

 

[DenverSpur]

Anyone knocking this potential free signing is nuts. Guy is a good player, with the potential to be very good. He is very technical, good 1 on 1. Great energy. Anyone forgotten few years ago Pep wanted to sign him?

All that maybe true but it still has the feel of get him because he’s free when our priorities should be GK, LCB, and AM. You (re)build from the back and down the spine not with a winger here and a FB there. That’s how we ended up with such an unbalanced squad.

 

[DenverSpur]

The problem is, Gil very much plays as a wide winger on the left, which basically doesn’t fit with almost any playing style now unless we get a manager who plays a 442 old school system.

Nearly every manager now wants wide players inverted and capable of scoring goals and attacking the box, which simply doesn’t fit with playing Gil on the left.

I like Bryan but he’s either got to adapt to playing from the right (and add goal threat/seeking the goal more) or he’s got to move to a club who play with old school wide wingers.

Richarlison doesn’t have the technical ability or speed to play as a wing forward either imo.

So we’re actually desperately in need of a player who can play from the left and who is a good dribbler and can cut in to score goals.

At Everton Richarlison mainly started at LWF with Calvin- Lewis at CF.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Jesus there are some shit takes in here This guy is a quality player. If you want a technical dribbler in the squad this guy is exactly that. It really is at the point where people just want to moan for the sake of it. He would be an amazing option off the bench and in Europe/cup games

Very like Lucas, in style. Very good one on one, and getting past players, but looks like he plays in a vacuum, disconnected from the rest of the team. We'd need a coach who can find a place in a team style for that kind of player, or he'll just be an impact sub.

 

[Flobadob]

Very like Lucas, in style. Very good one on one, and getting past players, but looks like he plays in a vacuum, disconnected from the rest of the team. We'd need a coach who can find a place in a team style for that kind of player, or he'll just be an impact sub.

Not a bad comparison yeah. He looks to have far more control over the ball and what he plans to do when he’s dribbling at pace than Lucas though

 

[BuckeyeSpurs11]

All that maybe true but it still has the feel of get him because he’s free when our priorities should be GK, LCB, and AM. You (re)build from the back and down the spine not with a winger here and a FB there. That’s how we ended up with such an unbalanced squad.

He is an attacking mid

 

[Yid-ol]

All that maybe true but it still has the feel of get him because he’s free when our priorities should be GK, LCB, and AM. You (re)build from the back and down the spine not with a winger here and a FB there. That’s how we ended up with such an unbalanced squad.

He can play attacking midfield or wing, so is one of the areas we need.

 

[Japhet]

All that maybe true but it still has the feel of get him because he’s free when our priorities should be GK, LCB, and AM. You (re)build from the back and down the spine not with a winger here and a FB there. That’s how we ended up with such an unbalanced squad.

Our priorities most certainly are GK, LCB and AM but if a player comes up on a free transfer we wouldn't be allocating funds from those priorities to sign Solomon. different if were looking at spending 30m on a winger.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

he could be another Kvara but I rather the decision to be made by out next manager

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

At Everton Richarlison mainly started at LWF with Calvin- Lewis at CF.

I know but I don’t think he’s good enough to play as a LWF for a team who want to compete in the top 6. He doesn’t have the technical ability and/or pace.

 

[Stoof]

Club: *does nothing*

SC: “DO SOMETHING SPURS”

Club: *attempts to do a thing*

SC: “No not that, don’t do that, why would you do that? Stop doing things.”

 

[JonnySpurs]

All I'm gonna say is that if this was Evan N'Dicka signing on a free, nobody would be complaining about the lack of DoF or manager because he's a LCB that we all know is a position of need.

If there's one thing Spurs need to do this summer, it's going after deals like this where good players are available on free transfers.

Ultimately Danjuma would cost us 27m to make that deal permanent. As much as I like him, it makes far more sense to go for Solomon instead.

 

[Scot-Spur]

All I'm gonna say is that if this was Evan N'Dicka signing on a free, nobody would be complaining about the lack of DoF or manager because he's a LCB that we all know is a position of need.

If there's one thing Spurs need to do this summer, it's going after deals like this where good players are available on free transfers.

Ultimately Danjuma would cost us 27m to make that deal permanent. As much as I like him, it makes far more sense to go for Solomon instead.

It kinda makes sense but until we have a DoF and manager we really shouldn’t be signing anyone. What happens if he doesn’t want the player? We end up with the Danjuma situation all over again.

I think the main point is we should already have a DoF and manager in place and be well on our way to identifying the right targets.

We are so far behind.

 

[tevezito]

It kinda makes sense but until we have a DoF and manager we really shouldn’t be signing anyone. What happens if he doesn’t want the player? We end up with the Danjuma situation all over again.

But it's not the same situation, as Danjuma would cost 27m? And maybe we have to make a decision on Danjuma before the new DoF or manager come in anyway? At least with this signing, we can make a profit in the future rather than a loss and in worse case scenario presumably Levy will find it easier to let him go without thinking, but I want to get my 27m back.

 

[Scot-Spur]

But it's not the same situation, as Danjuma would cost 27m? And maybe we have to make a decision on Danjuma before the new DoF or manager come in anyway? At least with this signing, we can make a profit in the future rather than a loss and in worse case scenario presumably Levy will find it easier to let him go without thinking, but I want to get my 27m back.

It’s not the fee I was talking about, it is the fact you are potentially clogging the playing squad with a player that a manager doesn’t want.

We already have a bloated squad that needs trimming. Adding another player to it without consulting the manager is stupidity.

We will end up paying the player a wage for essentially nothing.

It would matter if the player was free or cost 40 million. It’s the reason our squad is so unbalanced.

 

[Trix]

I cannot believe that anyone would even suggest we don’t do free business on a deal like this because no DOF. We were in for him last summer. If it is a possibility you can’t let it past because you have no DOF/Manager.

Yeah you can, because it's very possible you end up with a player on a 5 year contract who hardly ever plays. Until this club stops doing things arse backwards and actually starts working to a coherent plan we will always be a mess.

Danjuma is a good player, a "no brainer" and we've wasted a loan fee and half a years wages on him because "he was a good player, and it was a good deal".

 

[Hercules]

Yeah you can, because it's very possible you end up with a player on a 5 year contract who hardly ever plays. Until this club stops doing things arse backwards and actually starts working to a coherent plan we will always be a mess.

Danjuma is a good player, a "no brainer" and we've wasted a loan fee and half a years wages on him because "he was a good player, and it was a good deal".

Fair enough. But I view it differently on this one in particular