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Henry Winter:
Micky van de Ven: Why Spurs defender is my signing of season so far

Micky van de Ven: Why Spurs defender is my signing of season so far
Amid array of impressive summer signings by Premier League clubs, the Dutchman is the one who has stood out most
Henry Winter
, Chief Football Writer
Monday October 09 2023, 8.00pm, The Times

There was a moment in the north London derby when Micky van de Ven hunted down Reiss Nelson with ferocious pace. Nelson is no slouch, and had a head start, but Van de Ven flew across the Emirates grass with astonishing speed to dispossess him.

There was another moment, a week later at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, when Liverpool’s Mohamed Salah was trying to get away down the left but turned back when faced by the mobile wall that is Van de Ven.

Spurs’ calm, swift centre back recruited from Wolfsburg for £34.5 million is proving to be the signing of the Premier League season to date.

The 22-year-old Dutchman has had an uplifting impact on team-mates and destructive effect on opponents, shredding their lungs and spirit with his rapidity and determination. It is testament to Van de Ven’s qualities that he can legitimately be hailed as the most influential investment in the window. And there are several other contenders, not least his colleagues James Maddison and Guglielmo Vicario, let alone the other buys of the summer such as Declan Rice, James Ward-Prowse, Dominik Szoboszlai, Moussa Diaby, Rasmus Hojlund, Jérémy Doku and Cole Palmer.

Others will also present their cases over time, as they settle in, pick up the pace and physical rigours of the Premier League but eight games in, the argument for Van de Ven seems unarguable to me, having seen all but Aston Villa, Brentford and Bournemouth in the flesh this season.

Spurs supporters may point to Maddison as even more of a catalyst. The £40 million man has supplied five assists and two goals in nine appearances in all competitions, and the creativity from No 10 lost after Harry Kane left for Bayern Munich. (Spurs still need a No 9 to replace Kane.) Maddison’s joyous football and risk-taking embodies “Ange's style of football”. But Van de Ven’s influence has transformed Spurs’ defence (and not forgetting he scored the winner with his quick feet at Luton Town on Saturday).

He has strengthened the left side of Spurs defence, dovetailing with the excellent Destiny Udogie (a 2022 signing before going out on loan). He has strengthened the right side of Spurs’ defence, communicating well with, and calming, Cristian Romero, whose partnership with Van de Ven is proving the rock on which “Architect Ange” Postecoglou builds the new Spurs.
Rice has brought leadership and defensive know-how to the Arsenal midfield and was one of the standout performers in the weekend win over Manchester City
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Van de Ven has completed 809 of the 810 minutes of Spurs’ season, and been booked only twice, decent for a defender, for colliding with Sheffield United’s goalkeeper, Wes Foderingham, and for a foul on Fulham’s Harry Wilson. Work is still required on his defending at set pieces but he arrived only on August 8 so missed pre-season under Postecoglou. He’ll get even better.

Debates such as “are Spurs better off without Kane?” are specious and disrespectful. They could still do with his goals. A more valid discussion would conclude that they have spent wisely the £86.4 million received for Kane (or £82 million if you believe Uli Hoeness, Bayern’s honorary president). Van de Ven, Maddison and Vicario cost a combined £91.7 million.

Vicario was only £17.2 million from Empoli. His double save at the near post against Liverpool, first from Cody Gakpo, then getting up to repel Andrew Robertson’s follow-up, showed his reflexes. Rather than accept team-mates’ congratulations, Vicario organised his defence for the imminent corner, demonstrating his focus.

The Italian has a sense of humour too. On Saturday, after the Van de Ven-inspired win at Kenilworth Road, Vicario posted on Instagram: “Thanks for all the birthday wishes, sorry I couldn’t get back to you, I was busy, we had three points to bring home. Best birthday ever.”
Szoboszlai, centre, is already a firm Kop favourite and has earned comparisons to Gerrard
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Buoyed by their shrewd business in the window, and Postecoglou’s guidance, Spurs are top of the Premier League — above Rice and Arsenal on goals scored. Rice has brought more solidity to Arsenal’s midfield, more leadership, more defensive nous and execution, and will develop under Mikel Arteta into a more attacking threat at times.

Arsenal are slightly less expansive this season, but there is no denying that Rice’s passing range will improve, and he gives them that authority in the most challenging games, as against City on Sunday. William Saliba was man of the match, marshalling Erling Haaland, but Rice was close.

Josko Gvardiol has too many strengths not to prosper at City, but Doku, a £55 million capture from Rennes, has quickly made more of a splash with his pace, his two goals and one assist in eight games. But it’s still bemusing why City let Palmer go. Yes, £42.5 million from Chelsea is exceptional money for a home-grown player but Palmer was still good enough to feature 41 times for City, trusted enough by Pep Guardiola to start at home to Chelsea in May, and start and score against Sevilla in the Uefa Super Cup in August. Palmer’s a talent, still only 21, and has brought instant positivity, energy and creativity to Chelsea’s right.
The combination of goals and assists provided by Kudus and Ward-Prowse has made their purchase, facilitated by the money received for Rice, look like money well spent
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West Ham United certainly used well the money received for Rice, notably on Ward-Prowse, who has supplied six assists and two goals since his £30 million switch from Southampton. He really should be West Ham captain, not Kurt Zouma. Their team-mate, Mohammed Kudus, £38 million from Ajax, has three goals in eight games and challenges Michail Antonio hard for the starting position. Edson Álvarez, £35 million from Ajax, already looks embedded in midfield tactically and in the team emotionally, although he gets booked too easily.

Kudus got West Ham’s late equaliser against Newcastle United, for whom much is expected of Sandro Tonali, £60 million from AC Milan. He started brilliantly but is still finding his feet.

The fact that Jürgen Klopp kept Szoboszlai, his £60 million signing from RB Leipzig, on for nine-man Liverpool against Spurs showed his appreciation of the Hungarian’s stamina and authority. Ryan Gravenberch and, doubtless eventually, Alexis Mac Allister will settle in and shine but Szoboszlai is already a firm Kop favourite.

Diaby hit the ground not so much running as sprinting at Villa. The £51.9 million winger from Bayer Leverkusen has immediately given Villa an extra dimension with his pace, three assists and two goals in eight Premier League games. Up at Old Trafford, Rasmus Hojlund has been a rare ray of light in the clouds. He is only 20 but possesses that tough mindset and work ethic to shine at Manchester United. The centre forward will prove a smart buy for £72 million from Atalanta. But, for now, Van de Ven looks the best value of the boys of summer.

Come on, Josh. You don’t even own Everton yet and you’re quoting Alan Ball to Gwladys Street. Josh Wander’s open letter to fans was actually quite sensible until the co-owner of 777 Partners summoned the spirit of an Everton legend. “As Alan Ball famously said, ‘Once Everton has touched you, nothing will be the same,’ ” Wander wrote. “Though our time on Merseyside has been brief, we feel that to be true.” Wander and his associate, Steve Pasko, have attended two games. Supporters aren’t stupid. So Josh, don’t josh around, be straight with them, don’t play games, and most importantly prove you have the money to buy and nurture their famous club.

Ask anyone in football, or in the media, and they will tell you that Juliette Ferrington of the BBC is one of the best interviewers and reporters around. Because she doesn’t try to catch managers or players out and is also prepared to stand her ground, Ferrington gets good, honest answers from them. She’s now leaving the BBC, whose management never appreciated properly how respected and talented Ferrington is. The loss to BBC Radio 5 Live listeners is Sky Sports’ viewers’ gain.
 

Mouse!

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And majority of them left footed players.

This got me curious - probably extends to left footers too

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taidgh

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The lino was two yards away. He’d have noticed.
It was definitely moving, though it would take the pickiest of ARs to flag that one. As for the AR noticing, their main role is to look down the goal line to be able to spot fouls and if the ball curves over the line. Especially in that situation, where the kicker is going quick and has a hand on the ball, it's almost always just a cursory glance down to see the ball is in the arc.
 

Misfit

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I remember that Davids goal like it was yesterday.
I think it was at that very moment I realised we truly might not be a completely shit side anymore, tripping over our own feet, which had been the case for all but a half season or so with the Jurgen excitement since I started really following us back in '91.

It was a strange but welcome feeling.
 

Pochemon94

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Wonder if there is a cultural element to this. I know by dad was left handed but raised in 50s Ireland he had to use his right hand as being left handed was the mark of the devil.
Same story with my friends mom, she grew up in the Belgium and they made her switch from being left handed to right handed.
 

longtimespur

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Wonder if there is a cultural element to this. I know by dad was left handed but raised in 50s Ireland he had to use his right hand as being left handed was the mark of the devil.
My brother was the same. He was told to use his right hand that was back in the late 50s/early 60s in North London. ( Hornsey as was. )
 

rossdapep

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I remember thinking Korsten was going to be shit hot.
He was.

We nicked him from Leeds, who he had been on loan at and done great.

Think he got injured in the preseason we signed him and he didn't make his debut til December. He only made 9 appearances that season.

He made more the following season (only 14) but had to retire early in his third season due to hip problems.

One of those very 'cultured' players.

Such a shame.
 
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