Player Watch Player Watch: Oliver Skipp

[southlondonyiddo]

The career arcs of Winks and Skipp have so many similarities. Manager's pet types, good and showing promise of potential greatness before injury, never fully recovered after a long spell out, confidence shattered, needs a move away to restart.

If Skipp gets that move I think he'll become a PL regular before too long. But it won't be with us.

Skipp & Potential greatness - dear oh dear

Can I get a VAR check on that please

 

[$hoguN]

People are unbelievably hard on Skipp. His job is to come in break up play and move the ball to other players. He does that. He isn’t a World beater but he is an important member of the squad. Some of you guys act like he spends the whole match running away from the ball

 

[Oscar22]

He’s not going to be starting XI when all are fit and no, he isn’t a better player than Bentancur, Bissouma, Sarr, Maddison, GLC, and Hojbjerg. So he is basically a rotational option as and when times call for it.

I think for his own sake he would indeed be better off finding a move where he can play every single week and there are prem teams that would allow him to do that.

Biggest problem he has on here though is he’s now at that stage where it won’t matter what he does, if he played well in our next game people would ignore it, or during a game he could make a brilliant tackle, run 50 yards with it and make three killer passes, again, people would ignore it and only comment the next time he misplaced one.

Some on here just genuinely see that he’s lost his place and isn’t likely to get it back, but reading match threads etc you can see that some people on here really struggle to contribute to a forum unless there’s a player to be the whipping boy.

 

[Stamford]

People are unbelievably hard on Skipp. His job is to come in break up play and move the ball to other players. He does that. He isn’t a World beater but he is an important member of the squad. Some of you guys act like he spends the whole match running away from the ball

I honestly dont think he does he job well at all thats the problem. Even yesterday against a second string Burnley side he was being outfought. I've long thought he's way off the level and for me he's one i want to see moved on in the summer

 

[Marty]

Skipp & Potential greatness - dear oh dear

Can I get a VAR check on that please

A 19/20 year old dominating every midfield in the Championship while on loan, yes absolutely potential greatness.

But he came back from that loan injured and has never showed it for us, and I strongly believe the two long injuries he's had are to blame for that.

 

[SuperSpurs69]

He's done a job when he's come in over the years but unfortunately we need more than that if we're to push on.

The fact that someone 2 years younger is ahead of him, and he's only 23 himself, isn't a good sign.

We've got to be far more ruthless when it comes to moving on players who don't fit our style of play, even if they have come through the academy.

He is the type of player who would be a guaranteed starter for 50-75% of PL teams but we need top notch quality on the bench if we're to start winning things.

 

[spurmin]

I swear some of you lot would never be happy with anyone. They are never going to be good enough No matter who it is.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

People are unbelievably hard on Skipp. His job is to come in break up play and move the ball to other players. He does that. He isn’t a World beater but he is an important member of the squad. Some of you guys act like he spends the whole match running away from the ball

If his job is to break up play, then he's miles off it. He always late or miss-times challenges, easily bypassed, and technically deficient. He doesn't run away from the ball, its just his teammates don't pass to him, which is pretty damning to say the least.

 

[mil1lion]

I see him as the Mason that Poch had when he arrived. He works hard and has bought into the manager. However he's not of the quality we need to push on going forward. Fine for this initial season under Ange though.

 

[Kirito]

I think his level is championship. Winks had far more about him, Skipp doesnt really have any standout qualities aside from looking old beyond his years.

It was telling last night when Hojbjerg came on and was noticeable immediately, whether good or bad you knew he was in the game. I don’t remember Skipp being involved at all.

 

[FinnYid]

I don’t remember Skipp being involved at all.

Set up two chances at least, latter ought to have lead to penalty.

 

[muppetman]

So now Winks, the worst midfielder who got pelters for this last year or two is better than this guy?

The current thinking where players are either world class or shit can absolutely get in the bin. Skipp is neither and is not the only player of ours who is inconsistent at the moment but I'd prefer him to Pierre every time.

 

[ShayLaB]

Your 5th/6th choice midfielder can't be as good as your 1st choice.

Otherwise they leave for another club

He is a good player that may loose his place when all others are available. A good choice to have.

 

[spursville]

I swear some of you lot would never be happy with anyone. They are never going to be good enough No matter who it is.

I thought it was all pretty simple; we're all happy with Bentancur, Bissouma and Sarr and think that they're good enough and we (nearly) all think that Skipp and PEH are a bit shit.

 

[JoaoPereira]

Skipp is the prototype of the average, at times mediocre midfielder. his mantra in possession is complete the next pass. doesn't matter if it is the right progression, doesn't matter if completing that pass will invariably lead to pressure or loss of possession. there isn't any creativity in his play, any resemblance of pressure will lead to a dump to the easiest outlet. defensively, he can be reckless, slow to react, constantly shows poor technique, is jumpy... other than his workrate, there's nothing that stands out with him. he will do a job for a team that doesn't dare to create from the back and plays a scrappy game as he can get to some second balls, contest possession and make some disrupting runs but he is nowhere near the level required in a proactive, positive side. seems like a good lad, wish him well, but if he wasn't homegrown, he'd likely be out of the club already.

 

[spurmin]

Skipp is the prototype of the average, at times mediocre midfielder. his mantra in possession is complete the next pass. doesn't matter if it is the right progression, doesn't matter if completing that pass will invariably lead to pressure or loss of possession. there isn't any creativity in his play, any resemblance of pressure will lead to a dump to the easiest outlet. defensively, he can be reckless, slow to react, constantly shows poor technique, is jumpy... other than his workrate, there's nothing that stands out with him. he will do a job for a team that doesn't dare to create from the back and plays a scrappy game as he can get to some second balls, contest possession and make some disrupting runs but he is nowhere near the level required in a proactive, positive side. seems like a good lad, wish him well, but if he wasn't homegrown, he'd likely be out of the club already.

And yet nearly all the coaches we have had in previous seasons all see something in him. Otherwise he would get nowhere near the squad and would have been as you say, out of the club already.
But he’s still here and will be supported by me. Good game or bad game.
Did you cheer when he scored against Chelsea a while back?

 

[DiVaio]

Your 5th/6th choice midfielder can't be as good as your 1st choice.

Otherwise they leave for another club

He is a good player that may loose his place when all others are available. A good choice to have.

Depending on Kulu he's even 8th choice tbh

 

[JoaoPereira]

And yet nearly all the coaches we have had in previous seasons all see something in him. Otherwise he would get nowhere near the squad and would have been as you say, out of the club already.
But he’s still here and will be supported by me. Good game or bad game.
Did you cheer when he scored against Chelsea a while back?

spare me the condescendence. will only answer the coaches trust bit.

yes, that's true, that has been the case. that has been the case with two coaches that value workrate, structural integrity and don't have an ounce of boldness in their offensive proposal. that leaves Ange out, which yes, he has trusted him but he has done so on the absence of multiple key players in that position. he seems to be amongst the last options in the rotation. and for that level of play, sure, I'd let Skipp be that but it becomes frustrating when he needs to be an option consistently.

also, not really sure what saying that Conte and Mourinho trusted Skipp accomplishes. is it to show that he was an integral part of a side that failed to dominate play consistently? a team that didn't take the step forward that this club desperately seeks? that point only helps prove that he shouldn't be part of the core solution to take things further.

 

[spurmin]

spare me the condescendence. will only answer the coaches trust bit.

yes, that's true, that has been the case. that has been the case with two coaches that value workrate, structural integrity and don't have an ounce of boldness in their offensive proposal. that leaves Ange out, which yes, he has trusted him but he has done so on the absence of multiple key players in that position. he seems to be amongst the last options in the rotation. and for that level of play, sure, I'd let Skipp be that but it becomes frustrating when he needs to be an option consistently.

also, not really sure what saying that Conte and Mourinho trusted Skipp accomplishes. is it to show that he was an integral part of a side that failed to dominate play consistently? a team that didn't take the step forward that this club desperately seeks? that point only helps prove that he shouldn't be part of the core solution to take things further.

It means that coaches more qualified see something in Skipp.
You do not.

 

[JoaoPereira]

It means that coaches more qualified see something in Skipp.
You do not.

okay, admin, take the forum down. we're doing nothing out here.