Please explain: from where does this faith in Mauricio Pochettino arise?

[only1waddle]

I was fooled into thinking that we had turned the corner against Chelsea and Arsenal. All that has happened is that the players raised their performances for those particular games we have struggled in lesser games. After beating Chelsea we lost our next league game to palace, for example.

I don't have any qualms about the Palace game, new manager bump and some strong performances since Pardew joined, it's some of the other abject shit we have witnessed, I can accept a loss or a draw, you won't go a season without it, what I can't abide is players giving up.

 

[Breezer]

Tbf I don't think the board will care if we finish 7th/8th this season. Next season they will. But you don't sign a manager on a 5 year contract to judge harshly after only 1 year into it. Especially if in that first year his performance is around par. Next season we should all expect some progress though.

Should we really? The current top 4 will spend big and bring in more top class players. Liverpool will spend more than us which leaves us 6th in the pecking order for choice of players. Lets say Poch gets 3-4 of his own players. We still don't have enough for a genuine push for top 4. We will challenge Liverpool for 5-6th again just like this season. I'm not blaming Poch. It doesn't matter who manages our club. We can't compete at top 4 level and financial fair play is a load of bollocks!

The only improvement I expect is a better quality of football on the eye and less mistakes! I'm sickkkkkkk of watching our team make unforced errors.

 

[ilikeost]

Should we really? The current top 4 will spend big and bring in more top class players. Liverpool will spend more than us which leaves us 6th in the pecking order for choice of players. Lets say Poch gets 3-4 of his own players. We still don't have enough for a genuine push for top 4. We will challenge Liverpool for 5-6th again just like this season. I'm not blaming Poch. It doesn't matter who manages our club. We can't compete at top 4 level and financial fair play is a load of bollocks!

The only improvement I expect is a better quality of football on the eye and less mistakes! I'm sickkkkkkk of watching our team make unforced errors.

This 100%. People arround here needs to get this into their heads.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Should we really? The current top 4 will spend big and bring in more top class players. Liverpool will spend more than us which leaves us 6th in the pecking order for choice of players. Lets say Poch gets 3-4 of his own players. We still don't have enough for a genuine push for top 4. We will challenge Liverpool for 5-6th again just like this season. I'm not blaming Poch. It doesn't matter who manages our club. We can't compete at top 4 level and financial fair play is a load of bollocks!

The only improvement I expect is a better quality of football on the eye and less mistakes! I'm sickkkkkkk of watching our team make unforced errors.

I'm not talking about league position. I agree with you - it's extremely difficult to compete with the top four. Financially the gap between us and them is massive. They will all improve their squads with ready made top level players where we can realistically only buy potential.

I'm referring to our style of play and consistency of performances.

 

[shelfboy68]

Should we really? The current top 4 will spend big and bring in more top class players. Liverpool will spend more than us which leaves us 6th in the pecking order for choice of players. Lets say Poch gets 3-4 of his own players. We still don't have enough for a genuine push for top 4. We will challenge Liverpool for 5-6th again just like this season. I'm not blaming Poch. It doesn't matter who manages our club. We can't compete at top 4 level and financial fair play is a load of bollocks!

The only improvement I expect is a better quality of football on the eye and less mistakes! I'm sickkkkkkk of watching our team make unforced errors.

100% spot on anyone who thinks we can get top four are deluded it aint happening nor with the new stadium either, this is our place.
Poch is a decent man but not top manager material he is taking on an unenviable task managing spurs.
As for FFP again its total BS nothing is going to level the financial landscape to allow teams like us to compete its a closed shop, we all need to get board and understand this and enjoy what we have.

 

[jezz]

Lot of people with crystal balls in here.
Yeah I remember the relegation thread on here to, yeah that's kinda vanished now
I think we will be challenging for top 4 next season.
It's not all about money.

 

[lukespurs7]

I was fooled into thinking that we had turned the corner against Chelsea and Arsenal. All that has happened is that the players raised their performances for those particular games we have struggled in lesser games. After beating Chelsea we lost our next league game to palace, for example.

Man.City and lots of other teams lots to Palace mate they're on fire under Pardew.

 

[SteveH]

What is wrong with just enjoying being Spurs fan. I do!

 

[Mullers]

I think it was a very positive performance and if not for Joe Hart we'd have won that game.

We have lost 5-1 at home t Man.City twice in the last 3 years and today looked at least level with them.

we are in need of a few players to improve us but some very positive signs indeed.

I was fooled into thinking that we had turned the corner against Chelsea and Arsenal. All that has happened is that the players raised their performances for those particular games we have struggled in lesser games. After beating Chelsea we lost our next league game to palace, for example.

What do you say now @lukespurs7 ?

 

[13VanDerBale13]

if dembele/stambouli & yedlin BOTH don't play next week ive lost ALL faith in him.

 

[knowlespurs]

I just don't see a pattern of play
We have played shit for ages yet the team stays the same
I see zero of the pressing game he is meant to use
Pretty shit football and a poor season

 

[Strikeb4ck]

All this talk about finances is true, but only to some extent, and can not continuously be used as a crutch for supporting whoever is the manager.

Look at Southampton. They made some carefully thought out transfers and brought in a new manager who seems to know what he is doing and went from everybody's pick for relegation to a top 4 contender.

The fact is that while we don't need to be top 4 shoe-ins in Poch's first season, we do have to ask ourselves this as every year goes on.

Have we improved?

I would say it's a resounding no. We play the same shit football where we score lucky goals largely from outside the box and create very little real danger while conceding as many goals as the relegated clubs. Made our cup run, got eliminated from Europe, put up a meager fight for top 4 in the season when the Prem is the worst it's been in a long time.

All this DESPITE players from last year being more settled and most importantly unearthing our best striker in who knows how many years. Imagine where we'd be at had we had Kane playing like this while Harry was here...

There are also the little things like his stubbornness to drop or play certain players and his unwillingness to try anything but the one style/formation of football he knows.

Look, if we still had Soldado or Adebayor leading the line we would be down around 9th-11th. That is a damning indication of what Poch has managed in his time here.

We haven't improved, that's the bad sign.

 

[jezz]

Another defeat and it's that time again.
When will we learn.

 

[DaSpurs]

Poch has his issues (unparalleled stubbornness and staunch belief in his own concepts) and has made his mistakes, but there is no doubt that the biggest problem is personnel. We have an extremely unbalanced side, and until we address that there is no amount of managerial intervention that will "fix" the squad. Roll on summer, and hopefully we'll actually take steps towards rectifying this problem and the past mistakes which led to it, as we surprisingly failed to even attempt the last two transfer windows.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Poch has his issues (unparalleled stubbornness and staunch belief in his own concepts) and has made his mistakes, but there is no doubt that the biggest problem is personnel. We have an extremely unbalanced side, and until we address that there is no amount of managerial intervention that will "fix" the squad. Roll on summer, and hopefully we'll actually take steps towards rectifying this problem and the past mistakes which led to it, as we surprisingly failed to even attempt the last two transfer windows.

The thing is, if you don't have the players to fit the system then you need a new system.

 

[DaSpurs]

The thing is, if you don't have the players to fit the system then you need a new system.

Oh buddy, that I completely agree with. He absolutely needs to branch out and try new things, especially when some systems are so blatantly more suited to our current squad.

Nonetheless, that wouldn't entirely remedy our problems. We are simply not balanced enough in so many categories. Our chances of top four were ultimately doomed the second we chose to do nothing this past winter and only compounded the problem by allowing Lennon to go out on loan and not recalling Pritchard. We never stood a chance as of that point.

 

[shelfboy68]

All this talk about finances is true, but only to some extent, and can not continuously be used as a crutch for supporting whoever is the manager.

Look at Southampton. They made some carefully thought out transfers and brought in a new manager who seems to know what he is doing and went from everybody's pick for relegation to a top 4 contender.

The fact is that while we don't need to be top 4 shoe-ins in Poch's first season, we do have to ask ourselves this as every year goes on.

Have we improved?

I would say it's a resounding no. We play the same shit football where we score lucky goals largely from outside the box and create very little real danger while conceding as many goals as the relegated clubs. Made our cup run, got eliminated from Europe, put up a meager fight for top 4 in the season when the Prem is the worst it's been in a long time.

All this DESPITE players from last year being more settled and most importantly unearthing our best striker in who knows how many years.

There are also the little things like his stubbornness to drop or play certain players and his unwillingness to try anything but the one style/formation of football he knows.

Look, if we still had Soldado or Adebayor leading the line we would be down around 9th-11th. That is a damning indication of what Poch has managed in his time here.

We haven't improved, that's the bad sign.

The main area of concern is defence or the fact there isnt one whether it be individual errors or lack of protection its shit.
But i would not mind so much if werent scoring or getting beaten narrowly but thats not the case when we lose its complete surrender no guts at all.
And yet poch was a top defender in his day but cannot get this team organised properly, its a shambles and the pairing in midfied is too weak Mason is a squad player and nothing more yet stambouli can get nowhere near the team what a farce.

 

[Doctor Dinkey]

Unfortunately its beginning to look like he's a tactically limited manager who struggles to motivate players or adapt to changing circumstances. Hope he proves us all wrong.

 

[L-man]

Likely to have our worst points tally since 2009
Most league defeats in a season since 2009
Worst goals conceded since 2008

He does the same subs pretty much every game, is consistently stubborn with his starting XI and it's clear now that we haven't improved from the earlier games where Kane or Eriksen saved him.

This season he's failed massively I think. No one expected top four but he had the same squad as last year pretty much with some additional signings and more time for the likes of Soldado or Lamela to settle in. To be performing at the level of our 2008/2009 squad is pathetic and unacceptable; and two great games vs Chelsea and Arsenal doesn't excuse this.

I don't want him out yet and want to see what happens over the summer. But he's done himself no favours and any early jitters next season finding ourselves lacking behind the top 5 will see him under serious pressure by Christmas time.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Man.City and lots of other teams lots to Palace mate they're on fire under Pardew.

Why aren't Spurs' players on fire?